"Haaaaaaaaaalp ;O;" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)

[shadowbringer]

- start at the left side of the screen so that your shots will hit the first formation of fairies; don't bother much about the small Ps since you should focus on speedkilling the individual medium-sized fairies which come later firing aimed bullet streams, these will give you enough large-sized Ps which are easier to collect and bring you to max power before Patchouli
- after you've taken out the first trailing formation, the second one will come at the opposite side of the screen; you can stay where you are, since they'll all travel to where the first formation came from, vertically. Iirc there will be a third formation which will shoot aimed streams, you should be able to find an opening in the stream fired by the previous (2nd) formation to switch sides and keep streaming while the fairies go towards your line of fire.
- after this, you'll find the above mentioned medium-sized fairies which iirc start appearing from the right side of the screen to the left (focus on speedkilling them and collecting some of the large Ps)
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- then two more waves of these same fairies (where the very last one fairy of the second formation at the far right side of the screen will be offscreen and will shoot at you before you can destroy her). Try to keep in mind the moment these fairies fire at you to decide if it's safe enough to stay aligned vertically (I think somewhere around 2 seconds after they appear in the screen, which means shortly after they've stopped moving downwards)
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- then comes the fairies which shoot random bullets around the screen, and then the fairies which shoot small walls of bullets, and then Patchouli. But I hope this helps you :p

[MTSranger]

You can also collect nearly all the items at max value in the small fairies at the beginning.
Basically, stay a bit above the "Extra Stage" text in the beginning.

Then, stream left for the first wave of fairies. unfocus dash left, up, and diagonally right down to hit all the items.
Then, stream right for the 2nd wave, and then left for the 3rd wave, right for the 4th wave,
collecting all the items after you kill each wave.

You should collect the items dropped from the 4th wave by moving diagonally up right (unlike other waves where you move down).
This will let you end up in the top right corner, where you start killing the medium sized fairies that will appear.
If done correctly, you will have ~65 power before the medium sized fairies that drop fat P appear.

The medium-sized fairies appear in this order (I think)
right-left
right-left
left-right
left-right

[Zengar Zombolt]

Night with Bright Guest Stars.
Also Takeminakata Invocation.
how do

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Night with Bright Guest Stars.
Also Takeminakata Invocation.
how do

Memorize them.

[Arcengal]

Night with Bright Guest Stars.

Stream the ball bullets. Read/memorize the lasers. Pray.

Also Takeminakata Invocation.

Be at bottom centre when card starts up. Move left to dodge the first big line of bullets, then dodge accordingly. It's just reading.

[The Greatest Dog]

Night with Bright Guest Stars.
Also Takeminakata Invocation.
how do

YouTube link because it's easier than memorizing them on your own.

Wait, no, it's MarisaC so they might last longer if you're using ReimuB.

[Skyler]

Thanks everyone, I'll try your methods.

Also, "Cranberry Trap". I usually die at least once and end up using about 3 bombs because I get pushed down to the bottom of the screen and get killed by the aimed blue bullets 'cos I fail at dodging bullets backwards.

[Milkyway64]

Double spoiler 12-3

Wat do?

Also 12-6 is really, really annoying with it's glitch, and I'd like advice on it to to minimize the time I spend frustrated at BS deaths.

[Byaaakuren]

Mesh of Light and Darkness

Stay at the bottom, dodge the bullets, and be wary of lasers?

[Zengeku]

Pretty much.

[Drake]

Double spoiler 12-3

Follow Byakuren to left, take picture to clear (and get photo). Follow to right, take picture to clear. Stream, take picture, stream take picture, repeat.

Also 12-6 is really, really annoying with it's glitch, and I'd like advice on it to to minimize the time I spend frustrated at BS deaths.

nothing

Mesh of Light and Darkness

Stay at the bottom, dodge the bullets, and be wary of lasers?

You can misdirect first wave. Stay above Yukari, run away, etc.

[chirpy13]

This is one of those "okay to bump" topics right?  Sorry if not  :ohdear:

Anyway, I really don't get how to capture Nazrin's last card on Hard, aside from just getting lucky.  The crystal things go way too far out, so it seems almost impossible to dodge the bullets spawning at point blank.  Lunatic looks pretty docile in comparison... Am I just missing something here or what?

[Chronojet ⚙ Dragon]

This is one of those "okay to bump" topics right?  Sorry if not  :ohdear:

Anyway, I really don't get how to capture Nazrin's last card on Hard, aside from just getting lucky.  The crystal things go way too far out, so it seems almost impossible to dodge the bullets spawning at point blank.  Lunatic looks pretty docile in comparison... Am I just missing something here or what?

It still seems you have to move around the crystals, not stay out of range.

[ふねん1]

This is one of those "okay to bump" topics right?  Sorry if not  :ohdear:

Anyway, I really don't get how to capture Nazrin's last card on Hard, aside from just getting lucky.  The crystal things go way too far out, so it seems almost impossible to dodge the bullets spawning at point blank.  Lunatic looks pretty docile in comparison... Am I just missing something here or what?

The card is static. Memorize where the bullets appear when they do appear at point-blank, though don't be afraid to move up behind the crystals either if you're too uncomfortable at the bottom.

[Zengeku]

Anyway, I really don't get how to capture Nazrin's last card on Hard, aside from just getting lucky.  The crystal things go way too far out, so it seems almost impossible to dodge the bullets spawning at point blank.  Lunatic looks pretty docile in comparison... Am I just missing something here or what?

I got an old demonstration replay here
You might learn something from that. Don't mind the text on the replay page, I forgot set a password so i can't change it.

The general idea is that you want to stay away from the bottom and get close to Nazrin so you can deal some direct damage. My replay does it with ReimuB who is one of the more awkward characters to do it with. MarisaB is worse obviously but i really don't think you are using her.

[Archin]

Ugh.. running EoSD on Lunatic, I usually  come up to a wall when I reach Cirno's first non-spell. Yea I can bomb it but I want to try and capture it. The second part where she fires a circle of bullets and another set that aims for you isn't my problem but when she throws the first part. Can anyone help me on a good strategy?

[ふねん1]

Misdirect the first wave to the side, then micrododge the next two. If you have to face the opening sequence a second time, you can also choose to dodge the first, misdirect the second, and then micrododge the third.

[Chronojet ⚙ Dragon]

Kyouko's last card on Lunatic. How do you avoid being trapped?

(Just gonna put it down before someone says you can't get trapped no matter what)

[MTSranger]

Ugh.. running EoSD on Lunatic, I usually  come up to a wall when I reach Cirno's first non-spell. Yea I can bomb it but I want to try and capture it. The second part where she fires a circle of bullets and another set that aims for you isn't my problem but when she throws the first part. Can anyone help me on a good strategy?

Sit above Cirno's head for 200 graze.

If you want to not cheese it, misdirect tap tap, basically.
The diamond bullets are aimed to your hitbox, don't tap the wrong way and get hit by blue round bullets.

[Zengeku]

Kyouko's last card on Lunatic. How do you avoid being trapped?

(Just gonna put it down before someone says you can't get trapped no matter what)

They say you are supposed to aim the thing to the corners by being there when she spawns that barrier thing. It will then misdirect most of the stuff in that direction. Then you can alternate between corners.

[GenericTouhouFailure]

UFO Hijiri's nonspell where she circles the screen. How.
Phantasm stage. How to do the PC98 crap. Lol I mean the last few waves before yukari. Seem to keep Eating The Bullet.

They say you are supposed to aim the thing to the corners by being there when she spawns that barrier thing. It will then misdirect most of the stuff in that direction. Then you can alternate between corners.

Yes Exactly. Lol it eats up half of the bullets and makes the card a lol.

[Zengeku]

Yes, I just went ahead and clarified it and its true. The thing becomes trivial. At first i thought you were still gonna have to dodge stuff but he catches the bullets with her border before they get to you. I would probably still be attentive just in case something got a little too close but it should be trivial like that.

EDIT: Okay you might want to be a little careful as some bullets might want to fly in your direction and fast.

UFO Hijiri's nonspell where she circles the screen. How.
Phantasm stage. How to do the PC98 crap. Lol I mean the last few waves before yukari. Seem to keep Eating The Bullet.

For that UFO non-spell you will want to stick under Byakuren for a little while until she starts getting closer to you. Then you start circling the screen clockwise and then you get under Byakuren again.

Phantasm stage; Never really nailed that part myself. Its something you will want to memorize. What I did and still do today is memorize how to do the first part of it and then bomb the rest. But really, if you insist on doing it without bombs or borders, you'll just have to memorize it. Watch a replay. There's a lot of perfect runs of Phantasm around. Well, there is some at least. Just imitate what's done there.

[Sefam]

This is going to sound really stupid; Meiling's stage 3 mid boss non-Spell Card on Normal. Can go through Sakuya without using a bomb nor a life no problem, but I just can't manage through that non spell, whether I die or live through it seems awfully random.

[Zengeku]

Okay... let me get this straight... you can do Sakuya just fine... but not Hong's midboss non-spell? You wouldn't by chance happen to have a replay that demonstrates how you usually go about the attack and in which you fail it?

You might be doing something horribly wrong. If you don't I can only leave you with this advice: Go to practice mode, she isn't far into the stage. Play Lunatic mode. Practice the attack until you get decent at it. Then have no problem with the Normal version.

If Lunatic is a bit too hard for you then just practice the attack on Hard difficulty. Just make sure to buff the difficulty. If will make getting better at the thing easier as its a general thing about Touhou that if you fail at an attack, go grind a higher difficulty version of it until you can pull it off once or twice. Then go back and realize, "lol this shit is easy".

[MTSranger]

Phantasm stage. How to do the PC98 crap. Lol I mean the last few waves before yukari. Seem to keep Eating The Bullet.

I assume you can do the first half of that part easily.

Here is my strategy for the second half.
The part with bullets coming from 4-way, 4-way, 9-way.
you stay 1/4 from right, 1/4 from top, unfocus move straight down, move left, and then move up (like a U shape).
You move only after the shots fire.
Each time you move roughly 1/2 of the screen (so you should be 1/4 from bottom+right after the first one, and 1/4 from bottom+left after the 2nd one, and then 1/4 from top-left after the 9-way).

The last 4 waves (after above): stay roughly 1/3 from top and center. Move down, up, down up, each time moving 2/3 of screen.
Timing is harder here. Just watch a replay.

This is going to sound really stupid; Meiling's stage 3 mid boss non-Spell Card on Normal. Can go through Sakuya without using a bomb nor a life no problem, but I just can't manage through that non spell, whether I die or live through it seems awfully random.

You have no problem perfecting Sakuya (even I failed that, in previous weekly tournaments)?
Then that non-spell should be piss easy then. Stay at the bottom, dodge blue bullets, go through red ring, repeat.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Although I've done it right a few times, I still bomb that part as I often die to it when I don't. But I don't exactly regret using the bomb. I would regret dying to it.

The Phantasm stage part obviously.

[Sefam]

Okay... let me get this straight... you can do Sakuya just fine... but not Hong's midboss non-spell? You wouldn't by chance happen to have a replay that demonstrates how you usually go about the attack and in which you fail it?

You might be doing something horribly wrong. If you don't I can only leave you with this advice: Go to practice mode, she isn't far into the stage. Play Lunatic mode. Practice the attack until you get decent at it. Then have no problem with the Normal version.

If Lunatic is a bit too hard for you then just practice the attack on Hard difficulty. Just make sure to buff the difficulty. If will make getting better at the thing easier as its a general thing about Touhou that if you fail at an attack, go grind a higher difficulty version of it until you can pull it off once or twice. Then go back and realize, "lol this shit is easy".

The problem I believe is that sometimes, the bullets form themselves in a certain way and I end up stuck. I don't have a lot of space and I end up doing estimation mistakes like "I can get between these two bullets" when I cannot.

[Byaaakuren]

I assume you can do the first half of that part easily.

Here is my strategy for the second half.
The part with bullets coming from 4-way, 4-way, 9-way.
you stay 1/4 from right, 1/4 from top, unfocus move straight down, move left, and then move up (like a U shape).
You move only after the shots fire.
Each time you move roughly 1/2 of the screen (so you should be 1/4 from bottom+right after the first one, and 1/4 from bottom+left after the 2nd one, and then 1/4 from top-left after the 9-way).

The last 4 waves (after above): stay roughly 1/3 from top and center. Move down, up, down up, each time moving 2/3 of screen.
Timing is harder here. Just watch a replay.

For the 9-ways, I go very-left, very-right, very-left, mid-right, very right after I hear them shoot.

Though, each person has their way of dodging those.

[MTSranger]

The problem I believe is that sometimes, the bullets form themselves in a certain way and I end up stuck. I don't have a lot of space and I end up doing estimation mistakes like "I can get between these two bullets" when I cannot.

Hmm... that's weird. I mean, you should be seeing when to dodge the red wave easily.
The blue wave naturally unfolds at the bottom and leaves lots of space.
Mind showing a replay? Otherwise just practice more I guess...

[Sefam]

Hmm... that's weird. I mean, you should be seeing when to dodge the red wave easily.
The blue wave naturally unfolds at the bottom and leaves lots of space.
Mind showing a replay? Otherwise just practice more I guess...

Oh wait, nevermind, my problem is the spell card, inverted things :|

 :V