"Haaaaaaaaaalp ;O;" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)

[Koakkuri]

How do I dodge Princess Tenko? It has wrecked my shit so many times I don't even care to remember.

And while I'm at it, any tips for Ultimate Buddhist? I always get skewered by the red lasers no matter where I move.

[ふねん1]

How do I dodge Princess Tenko? It has wrecked my shit so many times I don't even care to remember.

And while I'm at it, any tips for Ultimate Buddhist? I always get skewered by the red lasers no matter where I move.

For Princess Tenko, you want to redirect Ran's aimed bullets to either side of her. As she's following you around, move up and down between two spots of your choice. Ran has no hitbox during this card, so don't worry about her ramming you.

During Ultimate Buddhist's red phase, you want to stay really close to Ran as you circle around her.

[Koakkuri]

Alright, thanks.

[Critz]

Easiest way to capture Princess Tenko is to stand diagonally away from her for the first wave, then when she shoots, move directly above/below her (or to the side if needed) and dash throught the butterfiles. Once she appears below you, make a small step diagonally away, then dash away just as she shoots and enter the horizontal/vertical gap. This way you'll keep damaging her. Once you try this for a few times, you'll never screw it up.

[Koakkuri]

Well, I didn't manage to capture it, but survived it with only one border. So hooray, progress! Thanks a lot.

...While I'm at it, how do I capture Chen's second card? I could use that bomb...

(I'm going to beat you some day, Ran. Just you wait!.)

[ふねん1]

...While I'm at it, how do I capture Chen's second card? I could use that bomb...

Wait until Chen circles around once. When she goes through the very center of the screen, go through the bullets to her right before she circles back around and rams you. At that point, just follow her around, repeating once if she goes to the center again. By the way, which character are you using?

[Koakkuri]

Okay, I'll try that.

I'm using ReimuA. Any recommendations? (I only have her and MarisaB unlocked at the moment, but that's fairly easy to chance even at my skill level.  :3)

[Third Eye Lem]

This attack changes depending on how well you performed in the latter parts of the stage portion. The standard version is actually quite simple. The red and brown arrows all follow "lanes", so if you go between two of them and stay still, the rest will also miss you. Obviously you need to make sure you do this where there are no purple arrows. But if you don't die in the stage portion, then the orientations of the purple arrows will be reversed, forming a "wall". It's not a true wall, but it's enough to nullify the normal strategy completely. Instead you want to stay above the bottom of the screen, slip through one of the purple "walls" and then dodge the red/brown ones. Forgive me, I don't know which difficulty you're playing this on, but this is how I do it on Lunatic. Hopefully this will help some.

Yeah, I can do that easily, but I didn't know it changed like that depending on how you do in the stage. =o

I should have been more specific: I meant the attack right after that, where Lyrica fires waves of those red bullets at you, then spread out in a more complex pattern. THAT is the one that is giving me trouble (especially with no focus, lol).

[ふねん1]

Ah, my bad then.

Her second attack is a test in microtapping, and each of the formations are aimed. When you start, you want to stay still until the red arrows start moving for the second time, and move only a bit to the side. Make sure you dodge the blue arrows as you do this - they are aimed too but follow a different formation, so you may need to make a second movement. What I like to do is after dodging the first duo of red and blue arrows, dodge the second in the opposite direction, ending up back where you started (this leaves you right in the center of the second blue wave, which has a gaping hole in it). The third wave, which is like three sets in quick succession IIRC, takes careful streaming to one side. I don't know how well I can describe the pattern of blue arrows you need to dodge here, but I advise making sure you stay within as open a space as possible. I hope that helps.

[Critz]

I'm using ReimuA. Any recommendations? (I only have her and MarisaB unlocked at the moment, but that's fairly easy to chance even at my skill level.  :3)

ReimuA and MarisaB are the worst options for extra and propably for everything else. The former does pitiful damage and the latter has a horrible horizontal range (and only 2 bombs per life).
 
Sakuya B is your best bet - her shottype is both very powerful and has wide range (and horizontal movement makes it cover the entire screen). Not to mention four freaking bombs per life. Plus her focused bomb is better than it looks - you can still do damage during Chen or Ran's nonspells (tip: shotgun her then get back) and it lasts very long (very nice for Ran's survival card and turns bullets into points, so you'll get your precious extra lives). The only drawback to Sakuya is fastest focus movement and not as long deathbomb window as Reimu's.

Other nice option is Reimu B. She has about the same power as Sakuya A (and insane power if you shotgun unfocused, but that'll rarely happen),okay range, 3 bombs and longest deathbomb window as well as most precise movement. Unfocused bomb clears screen, which is good for point extra lives and focused bomb is incredibly powerful, but only at close range (plan your bombs on Chen/nonspells).

Other than that, Sakuya A is also a nice option for stage, but her power is significantly lower than B (about Reimu B level, but with homing and more useful bomb instead of precise movement and longest deathbomb) and unless you have trouble aiming (there's not much stuff in Extra that would cause that), B is the way to go. Still worth trying though.

[The Greatest Dog]

ReimuB and MarisaA still have the easiest time with Double Death Butterfly, and their focused speed is generally more tolerable than Sakuya's for many people (I don't give a derp after doing 90FPS runs on EoSD with Marisa.)

[Critz]

Sooo...any of you guys know a reliable way for Fantasy Heaven?  :derp: The absolutely easiest I mean.

[The Greatest Dog]

Play it at 120FPS so you can get in twice the amount of tries in the same amount of time. :V

Well, not really. But that's how I managed to pull it off...

[Byaaakuren]

I'm stuck on understanding how Karakasa Surprising Flash works.

[Zengeku]

It works that way that a bunch of lasers spin around and go active. That's really all there is to it. Just make sure not to stand on the laser when it turns on. Its really nothing aside of a question of reaction time.

I have heard that moving with the lasers might make it easier.

[Arcengal]

How do you do that bit in Star Sapphire's stage in GFW where faeries fire walls of bullets from the left, right and then left again? On normal it's easy but the revenge bullets make it pretty insane on higher difficulties.

[Byaaakuren]

It works that way that a bunch of lasers spin around and go active. That's really all there is to it. Just make sure not to stand on the laser when it turns on. Its really nothing aside of a question of reaction time.

I have heard that moving with the lasers might make it easier.

That's what I thought at first, but I swore I saw myself get hit before the lasers get large.

[MTSranger]

I'm stuck on understanding how Karakasa Surprising Flash works.

That's what I thought at first, but I swore I saw myself get hit before the lasers get large.

The moment the lasers get large, it is active, unlike other Touhou lasers.
So, when the spinning slows down and almost stopping, you predict where it will stop, and move if you need to.

[Zengeku]

That's what I thought at first, but I swore I saw myself get hit before the lasers get large.

I don't know. How many times have you attempted this spell? It is really just a question of reflexes. There isn't any bullets to read. No trick to figure out. Well, try this then: Stand absolutely still and watch out for the lasers. If one of them stops on your position, quickly move to the side. If i do that i usually only have to move very few times.

[Zengar Zombolt]

I don't know. How many times have you attempted this spell? It is really just a question of reflexes. There isn't any bullets to read. No trick to figure out. Well, try this then: Stand absolutely still and watch out for the lasers. If one of them stops on your position, quickly move to the side. If i do that i usually only have to move very few times.

My strategy is to slowly follow the lasers while spinning, so it makes them somewhat easier to read.

[Sungho]

Nightmare of Heiankyou is a nightmare.
Any tricks that might make the surviving easier?

[Zengeku]

I have a flawless run here
It will showcase my method of clearing the attack. For the first part i tend to remain around the bottom. As you can see my movements to dodge the bullets are pretty similar everytime. Its easier for you to watch the video see how the pattern is supposed to be dodged than having me explaining it here. The second attack is similar to the first one except that the white stuff comes horizontally instead of vertically. It doesn't change much. Instead of moving dodging horizontally to avoid the white stuff i move up/down.

In the final part I just rely on reading ability to get me through though for survival you might just wanna bomb the final few seconds as they can get quite tough. In general, if you feel you've lost the moves of the pattern you'd better bomb. Its a spell that can easily take you off guard.

[Byaaakuren]

Satori's Border of Wave and Particle:
How close to Satori must I be if I want to go to the safespot?

[Sungho]

Satori's Border of Wave and Particle:
How close to Satori must I be if I want to go to the safespot?

One of my friends said that the hitbox should overlap with Satori's left shoe(the right side).

Speaking of waves and particles, how should I beat Nightmare in Heiankyou with minimal loss? Should I just bomb every time the lasers split?

[Zengeku]

Speaking of waves and particles, how should I beat Nightmare in Heiankyou with minimal loss? Should I just bomb every time the lasers split?

By capturing it obviously. :V

If you can't do that, then i'd recommend you learn how to do the first and second part and then use bombs on the final part. Try and experiment to find a method that works for you. Go practice it. You'll also get better at Nue at the same time. Don't bomb everytime the lasers split. Bomb everytime you get something you cannot dodge and since everything is moving in a static pattern it should be pretty much nothing. I will admit there are some tough waves though but then you must figure out which waves are hard for you and then you can bomb them if you lack the confidence to try and dodge it.

[MTSranger]

One of my friends said that the hitbox should overlap with Satori's left shoe(the right side).

Speaking of waves and particles, how should I beat Nightmare in Heiankyou with minimal loss? Should I just bomb every time the lasers split?

Well, the beginning of the spell is really slow and you should at least be able to dodge the first 3 waves.
Then, well, concentrate and have your finger on the bomb button. Bomb/deathbomb when you are about to get hit.
You want to bomb as late as possible so that you can cheese through 2 waves with each bomb.
The last phase isn't that hard, until the last few seconds, where you might need to bomb.

You only need like 4-5 bombs to bomb your way through this thing, and that usually means costing 2 lives.
However, losing 2 lives is better than game over, so do not hesitate to bomb if you, like me, have the laser reading problem.

[ふねん1]

Nightmare of Heiankyou is just the same types of movements repeated over and over, at least for the first two phases. For the last phase, keep in mind that the squares the lasers make never change locations. When moving through the bullets, always keep yourself in as open a space as possible, and be sure you're standing in one of those squares before the lasers reactivate. Only the last two or so iterations of this phase get claustrophobic enough to be challenging, so if you feel unsafe just time one bomb to coincide with the end of the spell.

[Skyler]

*topic fail*

[Chronojet ⚙ Dragon]

*topic fail*

Excuse me?
I wonder if I should click for complaint.

Oh yeah. How do you do the post-midboss portion of UFO Extra?

[Naut]

He posted in the wrong topic so he edited the content of his post.