"Haaaaaaaaaalp ;O;" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)

[Aba Matindesu!]

Ah, thanks for the tips~ To answer some of your questions:
*- I stopped shooting in Greatest Treasure because... Uhh... probably because I was trying to milk the lasers for graze points? Don't remember...
**-On staying unfocused, I thought Reimu seemed to do more damage in UF mode at L3 and L4 when shotgunning. I'll look up the damage chart again, thanks~
***- I could never get Murasa's final right, haha. Only got it once. I'm supposed to circle around or something?

Thanks again! I'll try Hard mode this time, are there any vast differences?

[Zengeku]

Ah, thanks for the tips~ To answer some of your questions:
*- I stopped shooting in Greatest Treasure because... Uhh... probably because I was trying to milk the lasers for graze points? Don't remember...
**-On staying unfocused, I thought Reimu seemed to do more damage in UF mode at L3 and L4 when shotgunning. I'll look up the damage chart again, thanks~
***- I could never get Murasa's final right, haha. Only got it once. I'm supposed to circle around or something?

Thanks again! I'll try Hard mode this time, are there any vast differences?

Okay. I wouldn't recommend graze milking unless you are sure you can capture the card. That is of course up to you. The trick about scoring is indeed knowing what scoring opportunities there are and what risks they represent and then structure a run that are possible for you to win but still give a good score... or something like that. Haven't ever done a notable score in a Touhou game. Go ask Naut for advice on UFO scoring. Its kinda his thing.

Second... yeah go check those charts if you want. I haven't ever looked at those myself. I just looked at the health bar and noted that the shots do damage faster when i'm focused. Also notice that you miss with a lot of your shots when unfocused. Maybe the charts will say that you deal more damage unfocused but thats probably only if you shotgun really close so none of your needles miss their mark.

Third. Its a little hard to explain how to do Murasa's survival but yes you are supposed to circle. Here, have a demonstration replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=11732

What i usually like to think is that you are supposed to stay one step ahead of her all the time. It becomes somewhat of a bitch on Lunatic but on Normal the card isn't very dense which means you'll have a lot of room to move around. I understand that you might not necessarily be able to pull of some of those dodges that i did in the replay but it should suffice when it comes to explaining the card.

Also. Here's a tip. Try to use practice start to perfect some bosses. I found that to be a good way to build up skill. Then you can post your results in the accomplishments thread. Try perfecting Murasa for me. Just on Normal mode of course. Consider it good practice. And do save the replay so we can see it and praise whatever you did well and give you advice for what you could have handled better.

You can also go for Shou one time but she might be a little too much for you now.

And this post is getting longer and longer... :V

Well, one final thing. Its about Hard mode. Its gonna be fiendishly difficult for you. At least to begin with. But thats why its such a good grind for you.

[Aba Matindesu!]

Okay, here's a slight improvement over the last, given that I finished with 2/0 instead of 0/0. Any consistent mistakes will now be clear.

WHY MURASA AND SHOU, WHYYYYYYYYYY

[Zengeku]

Okay. That was a better a run and the use of SanaeB is also a good idea since she makes a lot of things much easier. Here is what advice and observations i have prepared for you:

- Avoid shooting the umbrellas on Kogasa's third spellcard. It didn't really do you much good as you surely can see. You used two bombs there and in your last run you captured it. You should be able to do it consistently.

- You still need more practice with Midboss Ichirin.
- You still go too much to the sides of the final spellcard of ichirin having you fail the card as a result. Stick to the middle.
- You need to memorize Nue in Stage 4. She gives you a 1up if you can perfect her.
- A death on the first spellcard of Murasa is something you will have to avoid in the future. its a really easy card and i expect you know how to deal with it and will just treat this death as a simple accident.
- You also died at the anchor card. That's acceptable but a little more practice won't hurt. Same with survival card. You were close to beating it. With a bit more practice i'm sure you can pull it off.
- You still haven't memorized Stage 5. If you had you wouldn't need to bomb at all in the first part of the stage before Nazrin. You might want to go work that out and the bomb at the end of stage 5 was wasted as well. You shouldn't be so high on the screen. Instead, be close to the bottom and have SanaeB's shots do everything for you. Dodge only when necessary.
- Your Shou battle went really well actually. Radiant Treasure Gun and Complete Clarification (insert normal mode names here lol) captures in one battle is good. Vajra still haunts you it seems but i guess it can't be helped. You'll just have to practice and practice until it becomes easier. Oh and the 2nd spellcard, i hate that as well. Its kinda walling.

Your Byakuren fight could've been better but it could also have been a lot worse. You don't really capture much but you do get Good Omen which is good and St. Nikous Airscroll as well though you could've killed it a lot faster. Be sure to shotgun when playing as SanaeB. It really makes a difference at that card. Your Flying Fantastica performance wasn't very good but i'm no good at that spell either (at my difficulty of preference of course) so i can relate.

[RegalStar]

Earth in a Pot.

How?

[Zengeku]

Earth in a Pot.

How?

Its bullshit. Do your best you have ever done.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Use Scarlet or Netherworld Team or Youmu Solo.

Edit: And go with what Zengeku says if you're not.

[mikeKOSA]

Earth in a Pot is actually pretty easy if you do it like this

[Zengeku]

Use Scarlet or Netherworld Team or Youmu Solo.

Edit: And go with what Zengeku says if you're not.

Hehe and since you are a fool if you don't use border team... :V Well, i suppose i should just check out Aizo's replay even though it really don't have any relevance for me since i always go for Kaguya whenever i play that game.

[The Greatest Dog]

I still say that Remilia makes up for all of the Scarlet Team's faults by being stronger than Yukari and her indirect shots being stronger than Yukari's (as in, her bats are stronger than Ran).

The only problem with Scarlets is that they have wimpy bombs (aside from Extra) and Sakuya is underpowered. And to some people, their movement speed.

[Jaimers]

How exactly do you deal with the LLS stage 4 midbosses at low rank?

Also, any trick to that attack Elly has where she sandwiches you between two walls?

[Garlyle]

GFW, Extra.  Flashlight Master Spark.

Where do I begin?

[ふねん1]

GFW, Extra.  Flashlight Master Spark.

Where do I begin?

Use the Ice Barrier to block the laser itself, dodge the rest (even though the stars are quite fast).

You can also stay above Marisa at the start and freeze the first sets of bullets she fires, dealing more damage. Just make sure you go back to the bottom when you try this.

[Arcengal]

GFW, Extra.  Flashlight Master Spark.

Where do I begin?

It's actually really easy. Put your eyes in the middle of the screen to help you dodge. You can freeze twice per spark; the first to save yourself from the spark and the second to deal massive damage(tm). Will post a replay as soon as I find the mythical folder the replays are saved in.

[Jaimers]

How exactly do Reimu's level 2 and 3 attacks work in PoDD? These things keep messing me up.

Also, what's the best way to handle the spinny balls attack from Ellen's boss summon?

[Sungho]

Which character and shot type makes it the easiest to beat UFO Hard?

[The Greatest Dog]

Either ReimuA or SanaeB are generally preferred, it seems.

[ebarrett]

How exactly do Reimu's level 2 and 3 attacks work in PoDD? These things keep messing me up.

Fixed. Not completely sure if 100% fixed or based on your position as it starts appearing, but I always move to the center at the start then move to the same spot at either side to let it go through harmlessly; you can see it in any of my replays.

Also, what's the best way to handle the spinny balls attack from Ellen's boss summon?

Either bomb or hope it doesn't hit you   :V

No seriously, the best way to consistently dodge it is to first go between the outer and the inner ring, and then move past the inner ring, but since it's p. much impossible to do it while there's a ton of crap going on at the same time, I just go to some corner and hope I don't get rammed from offscreen. Real, honest answer is "just speedkill Ellen", by the way.

[Third Eye Lem]

Whew, for a moment I thought this thread was dead. At any rate...I need help getting past Lyrica's opening attack using Marisa in PCB. I know it's aimed at you, but it's so claustrophobic afterwards I can't dodge it (especially trying to do no focus, lol). Can someone help me, please?

[NEETori]

Either ReimuA or SanaeB are generally preferred, it seems.

MarisaA and SanaeA also work.  SanaeB and ReimuA are still better though.

Kanako's Misayama Hunting Ritual, second-to-last and last spell cards, and her last non-spell.  On easy. 
I can't redirect the stream on her second-to-last spell card, while I have to bomb the third phase of her last non-spell if she's not in the center.  The knives on MHR aren't a problem, but dodging straight into a blue orb is. 

Also - Peerless Wind God.  Sit in corner and pray seems to be the best strategy, yes?

[Zengeku]

I can't offer up any advice for Misayama Hunting Shrine since its different from the Hard/lunatic version. A friend of mine says he finds it pretty tough though so i guess that one would be okay to bomb. If you really want to capture it, know that the knives are aimed around you. Concentrate on dodging the blue bullets and leave the knives for later.

As for the streaming card. I always fail it so... :V

And Peerless Wind God is best tackled from a corner yes. Then dodge the best you can. Its a very hard spell though.

[Dr.Strafe]

Kanako's Misayama Hunting Ritual, second-to-last and last spell cards, and her last non-spell.  On easy. 
I can't redirect the stream on her second-to-last spell card, while I have to bomb the third phase of her last non-spell if she's not in the center.  The knives on MHR aren't a problem, but dodging straight into a blue orb is.

My stage 6 practice from earlier today. I needed to polish up the same areas you were questioning. Hope it helps.
-Misayama Hunting Ritual is all about misdirection of the knives and trusting the hitboxes of the bullets. Honestly, I should have died in the replay, but hopefully the point is made.
-I wouldn't quite recommend the my exact strategy for Miracle of Otensui, though. Very slow streaming and some misdirection can get you though it. Stay in the center too long in the beginning and you could get blindsided by the red and purple shots. Crossing the streams will get a bit thick, so just be patient.
-As for her final non-spell, practice it on a harder difficulty. There are more knives and green bullets in those versions, so it is easier to read the trajectory on them. Go back to easy, and just swim through the empty space.
-I definitely don't remember Kanako's Mountain of Faith being that thick on EASY.

Now if I could only consistently clear those attacks in an actual score run...

[J.O.B]

Chen's Flight of Idaten.

How?

[NEETori]

It's not so much that the attack is particularly dense with bullets (it is), but the claustrophobia associated with the fact that they take FOREVER to clear the screen.

Thanks!  Will give another try hopefully tomorrow.
 

Chen's Flight of Idaten.

How?

Place China in front, Remilia next, buff and heal with Reimu :V

[J.O.B]

Place China in front, Remilia next, buff and heal with Reimu :V

Lololololololololololololololol.

[RegalStar]

Flight of Itaden is completely static as far as I can tell, so just memorize a path.

The part I had most trouble in when I played its Lunatic version was the blue bullets of the second wave, and I dealt with it by veering to the left, just to the right of where those yellow bullets show up.

[MTSranger]

Whew, for a moment I thought this thread was dead. At any rate...I need help getting past Lyrica's opening attack using Marisa in PCB. I know it's aimed at you, but it's so claustrophobic afterwards I can't dodge it (especially trying to do no focus, lol). Can someone help me, please?

Lyrica's opener.
It doesn't seem to be that difficult if you focus, even in lunatic.
Basically, you want to dodge the waves one at a time, so either you move around the purple and dodge the red,
or you dodge the purple quickly before the red wave comes close. Same for the brown wave.

Quick replay to demonstrate: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=12019
Note: I completely failed the stage portion, one of the reasons why I still can't 1cc PCB.

[ふねん1]

Whew, for a moment I thought this thread was dead. At any rate...I need help getting past Lyrica's opening attack using Marisa in PCB. I know it's aimed at you, but it's so claustrophobic afterwards I can't dodge it (especially trying to do no focus, lol). Can someone help me, please?

This attack changes depending on how well you performed in the latter parts of the stage portion. The standard version is actually quite simple. The red and brown arrows all follow "lanes", so if you go between two of them and stay still, the rest will also miss you. Obviously you need to make sure you do this where there are no purple arrows. But if you don't die in the stage portion, then the orientations of the purple arrows will be reversed, forming a "wall". It's not a true wall, but it's enough to nullify the normal strategy completely. Instead you want to stay above the bottom of the screen, slip through one of the purple "walls" and then dodge the red/brown ones. Forgive me, I don't know which difficulty you're playing this on, but this is how I do it on Lunatic. Hopefully this will help some.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Kanako second nonspell Normal.Only difficulty I can't do that on.

[ふねん1]

Kanako second nonspell Normal.Only difficulty I can't do that on.

Move a bit to the side every two waves instead of one. The approach is almost the same as on higher difficulties.