Author Topic: "Haaaaaaaaaalp ;O;" (Spell Card Help Topic: III) (Read 175686 times)

Arcengal · « **Reply #390 on:** December 15, 2010, 06:09:25 PM »

Quote from: The Strongest on December 13, 2010, 01:29:09 AM

Guys, need some tips on IN Extra (I know, it's the easiest...)

Actually, if you play as someone other Border Team, it's more difficult than UFO I would say.

Zengeku · « **Reply #391 on:** December 16, 2010, 09:00:58 AM »

Quote from: The Strongest on December 14, 2010, 07:49:10 PM

Thanks guys, IN Extra has been cleared...with 0 lives and 0 bombs in reserve and while nearly clipping a bullet at the last second

Congratulations with it.

Look forward to when you can beat her without dying at all (you know, when people start telling you that you don't have a life)

Fossil Goo · « **Reply #392 on:** December 17, 2010, 06:45:39 AM »

What should I do on the final spellcard of Great Fairy Wars? Is there some sort of trick or advice that anyone can give me? The fireballs just come so ridiculously fast and thick and I have no idea what to do to dodge since it's just this dense, endless barrage and I'm not used to dodging that sort of thing regularly yet :ohdear:

Krimmydoodle · « **Reply #393 on:** December 17, 2010, 08:15:53 AM »

There's a way to cheese it, I think it was by sitting over the leader's head and aggressively freezing everything, but I'm not exactly familiar with GFW ~~and I can't find a video of an example~~ found it.

The Strongest · « **Reply #394 on:** December 19, 2010, 10:09:39 PM »

Quote from: Zengeku the Vulture on December 16, 2010, 09:00:58 AM

Congratulations with it. Look forward to when you can beat her without dying at all (you know, when people start telling you that you don't have a life)

Well I'm pulling off wins with 2 lives in stock now, but I still have a life...maybe...

Btw Arcengal, I tried beating Extra with Yuyuko...made it to Xu Fu's, cleared it, then died on the next noncard >_>

J.O.B · « **Reply #395 on:** December 20, 2010, 01:20:09 AM »

I don't have much of a life and I can't beat Mokou without dying

.

Zengeku · « **Reply #396 on:** December 20, 2010, 09:16:02 AM »

Quote from: J.O.B on December 20, 2010, 01:20:09 AM

I don't have much of a life and I can't beat Mokou without dying .

Some practice and a little less life and you'll be there. Not that I don't have a life but i'm just so insanely average that i can pull that sort of stuff off with no real effort. Pretty much all of Mokou's difficulty comes from not knowing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks-Vat5FTyo - Just take a look at this. This is the result of learning the pattern of Mokou's hardest spellcard. And i'm pretty sure that you can do this too. Not necessarily a timeout and not necessarily without focusing but enough to capture the spell consistently.

Infy♫ · « **Reply #397 on:** December 20, 2010, 04:33:28 PM »

guiz how i beat fantasy seal blink from meilings story mode??

RegalStar · « **Reply #398 on:** December 20, 2010, 05:17:07 PM »

Post-Sanae fairies in SA Extra.

WTF is their problem...

ふねん1 · « **Reply #399 on:** December 20, 2010, 05:45:54 PM »

You need to know when to cutback to survive that. There are six sets of fairies to keep track of. Start on the right, and stream left until the third set of fairies finishes coming out. Perform a U-shaped cutback to the left, and then steadily stream right.

Drake · « **Reply #400 on:** December 20, 2010, 06:10:53 PM »

Nope. Circles all day every day.

MTSranger · « **Reply #401 on:** December 20, 2010, 07:51:41 PM »

Seconded
Circling is the easiest method
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=9269

RegalStar · « **Reply #402 on:** December 21, 2010, 02:25:21 AM »

Thanks guys. It does work better than standing around and bombing. Probably the reason why I made it slightly further today (managed to get to superego). I'll keep on working hard.

Zengeku · « **Reply #403 on:** December 21, 2010, 07:44:19 AM »

You can also gap if you use ReimuA...

Drake · « **Reply #404 on:** December 21, 2010, 08:09:24 AM »

you miss enemies and possible points

plus circling around everything is insanely badass

Zengeku · « **Reply #405 on:** December 21, 2010, 08:10:21 AM »

I don't care about score, and neither does your average person who just wanna beat extra, but your second point is spot on.

Infy♫ · « **Reply #406 on:** December 21, 2010, 02:36:39 PM »

is there really no trick to beating Fantasy Seal -Blink- in soku's story mode?

Jaimers · « **Reply #407 on:** December 21, 2010, 07:47:19 PM »

Quote from: Sercan OwO on December 21, 2010, 02:36:39 PM

is there really no trick to beating Fantasy Seal -Blink- in soku's story mode?

Taken from this.

Quote from: Parallaxal

Quite possibility the most difficult spellcard in Meiling's story mode, with the Catfish's final spellcard as the other contender. Reimu moves around so fast that attacking her directly is likely futile. Since she's changing sides so often, beware that Meiling may oftentimes be facing the wrong direction when you attack, especially if you end up using the wrong attack because of this (like, say, 214 vs. 236). I used the same strategy that I previously used with Sanae: graze through the three barriers Reimu releases, and use a charged 5C attack to stop your momentum at the center of the barriers while leaving a persisting attack for Reimu to run into when she dashes across the screen. It takes practice, but I'm very satisfied with this strategy for safely taking down this spellcard.

Infy♫ · « **Reply #408 on:** December 22, 2010, 11:42:50 AM »

Quote from: Jaimers on December 21, 2010, 07:47:19 PM

Taken from this.

thanks :V
i was pretty much already doing that, only the wrong way.

c l e a r · « **Reply #409 on:** December 23, 2010, 06:45:09 AM »

I am currently having trouble doing "Jellyfish Princess" on Lunatic with Remi and Alice cardless.
I can do it fine with Tenshi, since well, she has a reliable projectile. Remi's is way too slow.

Any help would be great.

EDIT: I tried using Demon Lord Arrow, it works good since I think you just need to have good damage in order for the bubble to break, but the timing... is unforgiving. Any other alternative?

Aba Matindesu! · « **Reply #410 on:** December 23, 2010, 03:07:36 PM »

Straw-Doll Kamikaze Normal in SA.

What do I do? Circle?

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #411 on:** December 23, 2010, 03:56:17 PM »

Demonstration

Basically, it's aimed. Stream slowly. Wait until at the dolls are start their descent before doing an unfocused dash to make room to stream the other way.

Feel free to laugh at my derp on the stage.

Arcengal · « **Reply #412 on:** December 23, 2010, 10:51:09 PM »

"Shooting Sapphire" from GFW; Star Sapphire's 3rd spellcard on Route B1.

I genuinely have no clue how to do this insanity and would appreciate advice.

Aba Matindesu! · « **Reply #413 on:** December 24, 2010, 04:57:26 AM »

Quote from: Phoenixma on December 23, 2010, 03:56:17 PM

Demonstration

Basically, it's aimed. Stream slowly. Wait until at the dolls are start their descent before doing an unfocused dash to make room to stream the other way.

Feel free to laugh at my derp on the stage.

Ah, thanks. ^_^

Zengeku · « **Reply #414 on:** December 24, 2010, 09:05:07 AM »

Quote from: Arcengal on December 23, 2010, 10:51:09 PM

"Shooting Sapphire" from GFW; Star Sapphire's 3rd spellcard on Route B1.

I genuinely have no clue how to do this insanity and would appreciate advice.

Yeah, this spellcard is a real suckfest. What i usually do is just remain in one spot, freeze when i can and only move when necessary to dodge the fireballs. That way i minimize the risk of running into a bullet that spawns just as i move there. Doing it this way i die less than if i try do anything else.

Also, this is theory: I haven't tested it yet but maybe you can stream the card and then when you hit a corner you freeze the stuff and change directions in the meantime. I don't know if it will work because i haven't gotten to try it out yet.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #415 on:** December 24, 2010, 09:47:30 AM »

Moving my breaking down of Apollo 13 to this thread to make it more relevant.

Okay, so here's what I know so far:

The pattern is static, but angled randomly.

The pattern is repeating in a fixed interval, as can be seen here:

If you pay attention, you'll notice that the bullets all repeat a uniform pattern across the circle.

Somewhere in this repeating interval is an easy opening that can be survived every time.

Now for what I DON'T know:

I don't know how to tell what the "center" of the attack is. What I mean is, if the attack were angled straight down, what would the center be? I haven't taken the time yet to tell from the initial formation exactly when the repeating interval starts and when it ends.

I don't know where in this angle the easy opening appears.

If I can figure both of these things out, I can break this card wide open. If anyone helps me figure this out with a diagram, I'll forever be in their debt.

scherzo · « **Reply #416 on:** December 24, 2010, 10:11:15 AM »

I think I've found the safespot for Apollo 13. Try replicating this replay.

Helpful picture:

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #417 on:** December 24, 2010, 10:20:16 AM »

Mmm, I watched it, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. The easy to use opening I found requires moving. Thank you for your effort, but I think I need a more surefire method than that.

Off to bed for now. THE BATTLE WILL CONTINUE. AND THEN IT WILL END BECAUSE CHRISTMAS IS TOMORROW AND I'LL LOSE INTEREST HOPEFULLY.

Krimmydoodle · « **Reply #418 on:** December 24, 2010, 10:56:54 AM »

Warning - while you were reading 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Seeing this I thought Topos beat me to the punch, but not quite what I was going to post. Kinda close though.

After Donut's post, I looked at A13 again with a new strategy in mind. After about a bit of experimentation, and 20 to 30 attempts with one dedicated strategy, I timed it out once. The strategy was to find this little half-overlap in the pattern, start there, and slowly back away as the pattern closes in on me (you'll see me try to point out the part of the pattern I'm focusing on by running up and grazing it). It worked, but there had to be an easier way. I tried approaching this from a bunch of other angles, but after another 50 tries I didn't get another timeout.

I looked back at that replay, and saw a bit of a fluke. With 40 seconds left on the timer, I fail to read the pattern and am forced to make an impromptu dodge, except that this impromptu dodge looked cleaner than every other somewhat preplanned wave, which led me to a refined variation on the strategy.

It's basically what I did up there in that previous replay, but instead, I focused on these two mostly-overlapped bullets in the pattern, and backed away from there over time. The result was a new timeout in about 3 or 4 tries. It's not exactly easy, but it's easier, or at least it seems that way to me.

tl;dr look at this and watch this

Sometimes I feel like I talk too much when I analyze spellcards.

ふねん1 · « **Reply #419 on:** December 28, 2010, 03:37:27 PM »

There's a question I have about Byakuren's first card, Good Omen "Nirvana's Cloudy Way in Purple". I thought I saw someone on this site mention that there was some aspect of that attack that was aimed, but I wanted to double-check if that was the case.