"Haaaaaaaaaalp ;O;" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)

[LHCling]

p much the above poast (EDIT: er, previous page  >_>;)

SanaeB objectively speaking has it the worst there due to the nature of her shot.
SanaeA plays it out exactly like all the other Shot Types.

Replay w/ lazy dodging included.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Is there any sort of trick for midboss Ichirin's nonspell? Or is it just read and dodge.

[Zengeku]

Is there any sort of trick for midboss Ichirin's nonspell? Or is it just read and dodge.

Gets me sometimes too

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

PreShou orbs. The way I used on Hard doesn't seem to work on Lunatic.

[LHCling]

Re: Ichirin Mid-Boss

There's one certain green laser that goes straight down in respect to Ichirin's position. Move a bit left / right from this laser (tip: you should be able to see this laser pretty easily if you look up the screen) and then adjust yourself by moving up / down as required.

Re: Orbs

Alternatively, summoning a blue UFO about two-thirds of the way through the fairyspam (after Nazzy, you went with a Green / Red, a(nother) Green, a Red and then finally a Blue) also works.

[Krimmydoodle]

The way I do the orbs is to start in one corner, and make an unfocused dash for the other corner once the orbs start firing.  Once I've crossed about 3/4 of the screen, I start focusing while still moving directly left.  Move up once you hit the corner and you should survive.  I'm also not firing for the duration of this dodge.  (I think I stole this from Yukarin?  I forget.)

Alternatively, using a bomb also works.

[ふねん1]

^ I believe it's possible to do it like that while firing too, so it's more a matter of making the right movements. It's been a while, but I remember doing it while firing multiple times.

[Helix ⑨]

I've spend enough of my time in 12.8 extra now and I want to start progress further. Cause I always fail on marisa's 3rd spellcard.
I really don't know how to do this one other than time it out with 2 deaths and 3 bombs. The orb blocks your bullets so damaging marisa is nearly impossible. The orb also moves to your position so I guess you can stick it to a corner or side while you move to the bottom afterwards and damage marisa? But it's so intensive in dodging and freezing that this tends to get really messed up.

[ふねん1]

The orb also moves to your position so I guess you can stick it to a corner or side while you move to the bottom afterwards and damage marisa?

That's exactly how you do it. All you need to make sure of is to time freezes for when the blue walls come out, then it shouldn't be too hard to dodge the rest (move slowly away from the orb as it comes out too).

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Any way to make Suwa War not luck based?

Just had bullets spawned on top of me on several tries, and even if I avoid that, I would probably get walled in at some point.

This is the only card I haven't captured on MoF.

[Drake]

Spawned on top? The bullets only spawn on you if you're obviously in the way of the lines. Just don't spaz out at that time, I guess. End of the card just takes lots of skill and luck.

[Zengeku]

End of the card just takes lots of luck.

fixed.

[Jiju]

I've been trying to 1cc Mof Lunatic but some i don't know how to do certains spell cards:
Stage 1: No help needed
Stage 2: Hina mid-boss card, I really don't understand how to do it, and last card.
Stage 3: Trauma in the Glimmering depths, autobomb
Stage 4: Storm Day and..Terukuni :ohdear:
Stage 5: i still don't have the stage for practice, but the cards are Esoterica: Secretly inherited Art of Danmaku and Preparation Star ritual to the Godly Winds
Stage 6: i haven't made that far yet :X

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I've been trying to 1cc Mof Lunatic but some i don't know how to do certains spell cards:
Stage 1: No help needed
Stage 2: Hina mid-boss card, I really don't understand how to do it, and last card.
Stage 3: Trauma in the Glimmering depths, autobomb
Stage 4: Storm Day and..Terukuni :ohdear:
Stage 5: i still don't have the stage for practice, but the cards are Esoterica: Secretly inherited Art of Danmaku and Preparation Star ritual to the Godly Winds
Stage 6: i haven't made that far yet :X

Hina midboss- only go for captures in Practice. During runs it's better to deathbomb on it for the purpose of getting more waves after the midboss. Even if you don't Deathbomb, you still make more than enough Faith items to make it worth the 3,000 loss.

Hina's last card is just dodging.

Trauma in the Glimmering Depths is a memorization card. Basically you just need to memorize where you need to be on it.

Storm Day is just dodging while trying to get to the most open area.

Nice, someone else that has trouble with Terukuni. Apparantly you can memorize it, but you'll still probably clip it.

Memorize all of Sanae's spellcards.


Also, MoF is the only game where watching a replay unlocks stages, so watch a stage 5 and stage 6 replay to get them unlocked.

[Jiju]

Thanks, That helped,
I think i'll practice more then, since most of the cards i asked are just dodging, and memorize the cards i need to.
Thanks again

[Zengeku]

I'm also pretty sure that Hina's last spellcard is static. If nothing else, the pattern is almost the same every time.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

How do you avoid having stuff from Murasa's second spellcard enter the third noncard. That noncard is hard enough without that.

Of course, I autobomb that noncard anyway, but the fact that these additional bullets happen to me every single time is annoying.

[Arcengal]

Hang on.

Do (GFW ex-boss)'s sometimes get faster every time you freeze? Her second in particular seems to be way faster at the end of it than the start?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Stage 4 midboss Nue.Lunatic

I could really use a 100% successful absolutely foolproof strat for this because losing 2 lives to this almost every time sucks(1 death + missed extend)

Not really sure whether I'm going with ReimuA, ReimuB, or MarisA yet.

[Critz]

Is there any method to dodge Total Purificati*n (EX-Keine LW) easier than read>dodge>pray?

[Zengeku]

Is there any method to dodge Total Purificati*n (EX-Keine LW) easier than read>dodge>pray?

Cut off that 'pray' part.

Redirecting the shotgun to the sides helps a lot for me. Dunno if it helps. Just forget that pray mentality. You don't want to capture something out of luck anyway.

[Zengeku]

Ehh... sorry if this is considered necromancy but this thread shouldn't die off right? Why did it even stop?

Anyways, does anyone have some smart tactics for Aya's final non-spell? Sometimes i can get her to stay put and just eat ReimuB firepower and die quickly but other times she moves around all over the place.

Is her movement completely random or is there some way to control it like Marisa in IN's 2nd non-spell?

[Critz]

Is Miracle Fruit static, and if it is, is there an easy method to dodge it, like a safespot. I have trouble with reading it. And the last card of midboss Sanae as well - what`s the best way of handling it?

[Tarquinius]

Miracle Fruit is either static or aimed - I'm not entirely sure - but generally it's easiest to try and stay under Sanae as much as possible and make small movements. Typically, in order to dodge each wave, first move horizontally and then move vertically.
As for Rice Shower, my normal method is to stay about halfway between Sanae and the bottom of the screen and stream it horizontally, making unfocused dashes to turn around. Stay in the middle vertical third of the screen to minimize the number of bullets from the side that you have to dodge. Some people have a lot of trouble with this card, but I've found that this method makes it pretty easy.

[MTSranger]

Miracle Fruit
The "fruits" are aimed, but each fruit is rotated randomly I think.
Just stay at the bottom center and move horizontally and vertically to dodge.

Rice Shower
I'm not very good at this either.
Basically, you stay somewhere below Sanae and stream and dash unfocused to misdirect and change direction.
Bomb when you think you are walled cuz it's also easy to die in those fast bullets.

[Drake]

As the lines that come from the fruits are indeed random, it's essentially a readndodge card.

I'll see if I can whip up a replay for Rice Shower.

[Tangrelle]

Arrrrgh why Ran whyyy ;.;

I can do most of that boss battle alright, especially Charming Siege because I love it (<3), but I'm having trouble on...I think it's called Unilateral Contract? The one where she shoots out a bunch of daggershards and aimed butterflies that then head back to her original location to make a circle or something. I can sorta manage it, but my real problem is Ran's survival card ;.; I can't seem to keep track when the cullets are coming from every end </3

[Zengeku]

Her survival card is about memorization. Somewhat. You must memorize where the circle goes and then dodge the bullets within it. Remember that all the bullets goes in straight lines.

If your problem is the final few seconds when the bullets are coming from everywhere you might just want to bomb. Its read n' dodge afaik so there's no trick to it.

[Sen]

For GFW Extra, is there a surefire way to handle Lily/Daiyousei's final attack, where the blue orbs come at you in the curvy lines? It'd be really nice to get to Marisa with two lives and three bombs more than usual :ohdear:

[MTSranger]

Lily/Daiyousei's final attack:

Freeze the first wave.
Then, the waves are aimed at you, which means you have to move up when they spawn the line of orbs in order to dodge between the 2 lines. You should dodge in the middle of screen, not bottom. You graze the orbs to charge up and freeze when they make it 3/4 across the screen so that the ice will propagate with them as they keep spawning orbs.