"Haaaaaaaaaalp ;O;" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)

[ebarrett]

Beams not-really-slowly drain your motivation/life percentage. No PICHUNNNN if you get dropped from a round hundred but no stopping the drain either while you remain in the beam.

[Milkyway64]

Beams not-really-slowly drain your motivation/life percentage. No PICHUNNNN if you get dropped from a round hundred but no stopping the drain either while you remain in the beam.

That's... really frightening. How fast are we talking, here? How many seconds would it take to lose 100%?

[ebarrett]

Not REALLY fast, just don't completely ignore them. Sapz has a full extra run on Youtube, and he goes through the beams in the first couple of cards a few times, so you can check it there.

[Arcengal]

That's... really frightening. How fast are we talking, here? How many seconds would it take to lose 100%?

About 5 seconds of constant exposure, I believe. Consider how fast your brain is going during a game of Touhou and that's practically an eternity though.

As for help, I'm currently getting MANGLED by Meteor "Super Perseid". I was a second away from being extra this time and feel that if i hadn't lost 300% to that spell then I would easily have won.

[BallerSupreme]

Maybe I'm bad at microtapping, but I seem to always fail that, as I need to last until 35 seconds, but I die at 37.
Instead, I stream it in a rectangle-like shape, circling around and make sure I'm far enough away from those familiars when they fire the streams. It's obviously harder than streaming vertically though.

For streaming vertically, the best visual cue if you're doing it slow enough, the bullets should be making an almost straight line below you. With a bit of trial and error you can tell how much they can 'bend' before you're going too quickly. If there's a fairly large V shape below you, either you're tapping too hard or your streaming too quickly. I usually do it a tiny bit faster than the beat of the music, because I'm always afraid of messing that section up.

[MTSranger]

For streaming vertically, the best visual cue if you're doing it slow enough, the bullets should be making an almost straight line below you. With a bit of trial and error you can tell how much they can 'bend' before you're going too quickly. If there's a fairly large V shape below you, either you're tapping too hard or your streaming too quickly. I usually do it a tiny bit faster than the beat of the music, because I'm always afraid of messing that section up.

It almost makes a flat line, meaning I'm streaming fairly slow, and yet I still move too fast and hit the wall.
Each of my tap is around one hit box in distance (the smallest tap I can make), and I move with the music
Is that seriously too much? I never succeeded streaming vertically. Maybe I'm missing something.

[BallerSupreme]

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=9891

Here's a replay, using Marisa solo. I wasn't sure who had the fastest focused speed so I just kind of assumed it'd be Marisa.

I was streaming faster than I intended at the start of the section, but I slowed down a tiny bit and ended up with an inch to spare.

[Sen]

I wasn't sure who had the fastest focused speed so I just kind of assumed it'd be Marisa.

Remilia and Sakuya, actually.

[BallerSupreme]

Remilia and Sakuya, actually.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=9892

here's a replay with solo Remilia then.
I actually screwed up a lot of times on the last frag grenade section, due to circling around too fast.

Anyway, just one solid tap with the beat will work. I actually wasn't watching the screen during the second phase, instead just watched my right hand.

[MTSranger]

Apparently it doesn't work for me!
After literally 100 tries, I still can't tap at your speed!
Is my music a hair too fast or is it that I'm just not a good player?
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=9895
FUCK

[BallerSupreme]

from what I can tell, you're tapping a bit faster than the beat. The speed of your tapping is okay though, especially with border team. The main problem is you're moving too much each tap during the first half. Make sure to release the up arrow as soon as you can (I basically bounce my finger off of the key, I'm sure there are better techniques) and you should get it rather quickly.

[LHCling]

Let's take another approach to solve this.

[MTSranger]

Meh, no big deal. I will just go back to circular streaming. It's reliable enough for me anyways.

Let's take another approach to solve this.

What's new? just stream the explosions slowly?

[LHCling]

Listen to the tapping.

Quick EDIT: If it's really needed, I can lower the volume so the keyboard strikes are more distinct.

[Vibri]

Yeah, you're moving too fast, and too far.  Especially in the beginning.  Since you always die at the top, you might as well risk dying on the trip up instead.  It's actually pretty easy to do consistently once you stop panicking about being hit.

[GenericTouhouFailure]

This may sound stupid but:
HOW DO I PLAY PHANTASMAGORIA OF FLOWER VIEW
CONTROLS ARE WUT?
Y I KEEP ACTIVATING SPELL CARDZ WUT?
(srsly I suck at figuring out controls)
Edit: Figured out that tapping iz shoot once I spammed Z to stage 7 or something.
Edit2: Found it on wiki!

[MTSranger]

Thanks for the help guys
I finally did figure out how to tap as slow as you guys did, but then I ALWAYS miss a tap somewhere.
Then I did some testing and figured out that every 15 or so taps, one wouldn't register.
Alas, it's my keyboard that's the issue.

Gosh, by desperately trying to get vertical streaming to work, I bumped my stat on the card to 13/380
Mokou is giving me nightmares.

[bjw]

Okay, so I've cleared Fairy Wars' Extra several times now and I've captured every card... outside of Terminus "Big Crunch."

So, anyone know what's the deal with this one? Does it just come down to good freeze timing? Frequent freezing at any percent? Maybe there's just some trick I'm missing? That or it's actually a difficult card. Really hate always going into this one with a "better prepare to bomb" mindset.

[Chronojet ⚙ Dragon]

Even after watching various people's replays, GFW Extra remains as hard as it is.

[Drake]

Okay, so I've cleared Fairy Wars' Extra several times now and I've captured every card... outside of Terminus "Big Crunch."

So, anyone know what's the deal with this one? Does it just come down to good freeze timing? Frequent freezing at any percent? Maybe there's just some trick I'm missing? That or it's actually a difficult card. Really hate always going into this one with a "better prepare to bomb" mindset.

It's just timing and getting through the gaps properly. You can freeze twice both outside and inside, safely.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Murasa's survival card, Lunatic.

[Zengeku]

Murasa's survival card, Lunatic.

Hug the walls. That usually works for me.

[ふねん1]

Murasa's survival card, Lunatic.

"Four corners" works. It is subject to where Murasa starts the whole thing, so a bit of hugging the walls inside the rings might be needed. Otherwise, once you get this pattern started, it's actually not too hard to keep it up.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

UFO Stage 3 Lunatic, the entire stage.

I don't understand how to do any of it outside of Ichirin's spells and boss nonspells, though I still suck at those.

[Zengeku]

UFO Stage 3 Lunatic, the entire stage.

I don't understand how to do any of it outside of Ichirin's spells and boss nonspells, though I still suck at those.

Yes please. Help out someone. I personally have most things about read n' dodge under control and i'm getting onto something regarding the circling around at the end but i still haven't figured out the timing to avoid being at the top of the screen as the big fairy comes out.

But the post-Ichirin wall fairies claim a life every single time.

[Arcengal]

GFW extra spellcard 3.

Can't actually damage her since I'm too busy trying to not die.

[Jaimers]

UFO Stage 3 Lunatic, the entire stage.

I don't understand how to do any of it outside of Ichirin's spells and boss nonspells, though I still suck at those.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuoBEDsRyig

Check description.

[ふねん1]

GFW extra spellcard 3.

Can't actually damage her since I'm too busy trying to not die.

The thing follows you as it comes out, so misdirecting it to the side of the boss will give you a clear shot. I don't know for sure if the bullets it fires are aimed, but I don't find them hard to keep track of. Another way to deal damage is through freezing - time freezes for when the blue waves come out and release the ice close to the boss.

[Zengeku]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuoBEDsRyig

Check description.

But Reimu kills those post-Ichirin fairies way faster than Sanae does.

[Jaimers]

It's still the same thing.

Shotgun those fairies before you're pushed to the bottom.