E3 2010: Motion Controlled Edition

[helvetica]

Those controls look so fucking awkward.  Miyamoto is basically fumbling like crazy.

[Edible]

Can't even default to the superior gamecube version this time around.  blerhrgh.

And Wii Link is still right-handed.  Game sucks move on.

[helvetica]

Oh fuck I totally missed this during the shitfest that was UbiSoft's panel.

TrackMania 2 screens?!

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TM2 beta in Q4 2010: http://www.abload.de/img/maniaplanet_beta_dates5oov.jpg

[Edible]

Golden Sun: Dark Dawn! :O :O :O

I gotta replay through the first two again...

Trailer appears to be very similar to the original game, RPG + puzzle gameplay.  Battles are in full 3D now.

Edit: And out "this holiday season", or in game industry terms Q4, so anytime between December and March.  Here's hoping before Christmas, but I won't mind if they don't rush.

[helvetica]

Oh fuck fuck fuck GOLDENEYE WII yesssssss.

But why can't it come out on a console with a non-retarded online setup whyyyyyyyy

[Matsuri]

Golden Sun: Dark Dawn! :O :O :O

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[Matsuri]

oh fuck yes is that a new Kirby announcement

yes it is

I have been hoping for this for fucking years

[Edible]

Damn it, that Kirby game looks phenomenal.  I may actually have to buy a Wii now, what with Other M coming out soon too.

[Silent Harmony]

Speaking of which, Other M looks better than I expected. As long as the 3rd person-1st Person transitions works well enough. But Kirby's Yarn showed some very nice innovation (unzipping a wall, folding the background). Beautiful too.

[helvetica]

3ds spotted.  Sporting same stupid clamshell as the old DS, slightly wider screen, a single fail analog nub like the PSP.  But hey, it's

3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm not usually one for Nintendo's repetitive product placement but I will be first in line to get a 3DS.  Holy crap.

@TSO: C'mon, TWO cameras on the outside so you can take 3d pictures. :O :O  How awesome is this.

ALSO 3DS KID ICARUS

[KomeijiKoishi]

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My reaction exactly.

[Edible]

Overall this blows Microsoft's out of the goddamn water.  I don't know how Sony is going to one-up them this year.

[theshirn]

Golden Sun: Dark Dawn! :O :O :O

OH YEAH[/koolaid]

[Matsuri]

ALSO 3DS KID ICARUS

I have wanted a new Kid Icarus game since I was a little kid.

* Matsuri is in a starry-eyed state of reverie

[Edible]

3DS NINTENCATS

FFFFFFUUUUUCK YEEEEESSSSS

[helvetica]

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I'm not usually one for Nintendo's repetitive product placement but I will be first in line to get a 3DS.  Holy crap.

@TSO: C'mon, TWO cameras on the outside so you can take 3d pictures. :O :O  How awesome is this.

ALSO 3DS KID ICARUS

3DS Kid Icarus is huge but honestly?  Two cameras and a analog nub?  That's all we're getting?  Sorry I guess I was expecting something more gamechanging.  At this point Nintendo I was hoping (and they really really should) they'd put a GSM radio and a SIM slot in it.  Then I'd be all over it.

[Silent Harmony]

Considering my bad eyesight severely limits 3-D for me (9 times out of 10 it simply looks 2D), so I'm hesitant.

They're really pushing 3rd party, which was definitely the biggest question mark going in; at least they acknowledging it. If those games (Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil) can actually pull it off, even on just their handheld, it'd quiet a lot of worries.

[helvetica]

Considering my bad eyesight severely limits 3-D for me (9 times out of 10 it simply looks 2D), so I'm hesitant.

They're really pushing 3rd party, which was definitely the biggest question mark going in; at least they acknowledging it. If those games (Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil) can actually pull it off, even on just their handheld, it'd quiet a lot of worries.

The problem with the "3D" part, is it's going to be a gimmick for 90% of the titles.  Just like the touch controls on the DS just ended up being painful gimmicks for all but a very few select titles.  At least with touch controls there's not much you can screw with except making all the buttons touch or requiring dumb stylus marks.  Being forced to use those plastic glasses to play the game?  No thanks.

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A summary of the games displayed here.

The problem with the "3D" part, is it's going to be a gimmick for 90% of the titles.  Just like the touch controls on the DS just ended up being painful gimmicks for all but a very few select titles.  At least with touch controls there's not much you can screw with except making all the buttons touch or requiring dumb stylus marks.  Being forced to use those plastic glasses to play the game?  No thanks.

Er, no glasses required.  That was the whole point.

[Barrakketh]

Considering my bad eyesight severely limits 3-D for me (9 times out of 10 it simply looks 2D), so I'm hesitant.

That's not a problem.  You can turn off the 3D stuff with a slider, anyway.

[helvetica]

Er, no glasses required.  That was the whole point.

Oh I missed that.  Opinion slightly changed but not by much.  The "3D" effect gets old and frankly stereoscopic vision causes eyestrain much faster than normal flat projection.

That's not a problem.  You can turn off the 3D stuff with a slider, anyway.

But how many games are just going to look horrible with it off?  How many games can you play "without the touch controls" and end up just being a clunky mess?

[communist unity (comm-unity)]

3DS. New Zelda (controls hopefully aren't as stiff as they seemed), Kid Icarus, Kirby Wii, Donkey Kong Country 4.

Hoooooly shit. :dragonforce:

[Edible]

The "3D" effect gets old and frankly stereoscopic vision causes eyestrain much faster than normal flat projection.

This I'll agree with, but it remains to be seen what specifically they're going to accomplish with 3D, and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

List o' features for 3DS:

? The Nintendo 3DS is black and blue
? As promised, this is a glasses-free 3D device
? Two cameras on the outside of the device for 3D picture taking
? 3D depth slider on the side of the device
? Round numb analog stick called the "Slide Pad"
? Bottom screen is a touch panel
? Below the touch screen are Select, Home and Start buttons
? Underneath the A, B, X, Y buttons is the handheld's power button
? Motion sensor and gyroscope
? Compatible with Nintendo DSi
? A camera facing the player above the portable's 3D screen
? The ability to play 3D Hollywood movies, like Legends of the Guardians from Warner Brothers
? The 3DS launch game will be Kid Icarus: Uprising

[Bananamatic]

the power button part is interesting

[Barrakketh]

I'd be cool if the 3D part were nothing more than a marketing blurb, and will consider myself pleasantly surprised when a developer does something neat with it.

The hardware inside of the 3DS looks to have gotten a significant upgrade (probably a Tegra/Tegra 2 platform) and from what we've seen it looks like it is capable of pushing GCN visuals (and maybe better).

[Edible]

capable of pushing GCN visuals

Hooray, Nintendo is finally getting close to the PSP's level.  Only took them how many years?

[helvetica]

I'd be cool if the 3D part were nothing more than a marketing blurb, and will consider myself pleasantly surprised when a developer does something neat with it.

That's what I'm afraid of, it'll be more than a marketing blurb but noone will do anything neat with it other than IT'S IN 3DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

The hardware inside of the 3DS looks to have gotten a significant upgrade (probably a Tegra/Tegra 2 platform) and from what we've seen it looks like it is capable of pushing GCN visuals (and maybe better).

It's not Tegra.  Nvidia has already denied that rumor.  And it's not that hard to push "Gamecube level" graphics when you're at such a low resolution point that the 3DS is likely to run at.

[Nat Tea]

That's what I'm afraid of, it'll be more than a marketing blurb but noone will do anything neat with it other than IT'S IN 3DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Maybe that's why I feel the 3DS sounds like a terrible idea.

Also, I'm blind enough already, gosh. Nintendo, are you actually unintentionally narrowing your audience I don't know

It's E3 right now, I'm just not feeling the excitement. Maybe I need to actually know what's cool in gaming.

I do like new Kirby (I mean, we've already got SNES Kirby: Super Star Ultra, GBA Kirby: Squeak Squad, and Touchscreen Kirby: Canvas Curse) and Golden Sun (we haven't seen you in how many years now) though!

[helvetica]

3DS launch/near launch title list.

Kid Icarus Uprising
Nintendogs + Cats
Metal Gear Solid
DJ Hero 3D
Professor Layton
Saints Row
Madden NFL
FIFA Soccer
Samurai Warriors 3D
Dead or Alive
Ninja Gaiden
Kingdom Hearts
Batman
Resident Evil Revelations
Street Fighter
Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy
Ghost Recon
Splinter Cell
Ridge Racer
Starfox 64
Paper Mario
Luigi's Mansion

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I'm kind of getting sick of handhelds basically just being yesteryear's console titles reported with inferior resolution and controls.