Author Topic: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?  (Read 26308 times)

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2010, 05:01:17 PM »
Shadows. ZUN is actually a genius artist who perfectly understands the dichotomy of light and shadow in illustrated media. Also explains Satori's arms and Remilia's fingers.
You've got me interested - please can you explain this to me in such a way that a person with zero drawing experience can understand~? :V

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2010, 05:07:00 PM »
I'm at the point where I'll consider anyone who denies Byakuren's gradient hair is a troll.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2010, 09:38:35 PM »
I'm at the point where I'll consider anyone who denies Byakuren's gradient hair is a troll.
Doesn't that makes you the troll? :V

I still don't believe her hair is gradient. Hence this thread and the poll.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2010, 10:18:46 PM »
I still don't believe her hair is gradient. Hence this thread and the poll.

You have all the right of believe who her hair was only iluminated for the scroll and her hair is plain; but i can?t forse you to believe another thing...
but the sprites of  Byakuren only give me more believe in her gradient hair...why? because change the color of the hair is easy in only one sprite and no take lots of time, and ZUN is japanese... that mean who if he loves make this kind of games, he will work with love in all the details, even if that detail no is really notorious...because always someone can see it. XD (even if he loves beer too!)

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2010, 10:19:45 PM »
Doesn't that makes you the troll? :V

I still don't believe her hair is gradient. Hence this thread and the poll.
Wat  :getdown:

How come, though? I think it's gradient because of the sprite. And because single-colored hair is too boring for a stage 6 boss anyway  :derp:

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2010, 12:44:28 AM »
It's the scroll, the hair remaining purple when the scroll is folded is explained by LINGERING EFFECTS OF CONTINUOUS EXPOSURE TO PURPLE BUDDHIST RADIOACTIVITY, through means of SCIENCE and CAPITAL LETTERS.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2010, 01:03:43 AM »
It's the scroll, the hair remaining purple when the scroll is folded is explained by LINGERING EFFECTS OF CONTINUOUS EXPOSURE TO PURPLE BUDDHIST RADIOACTIVITY, through means of SCIENCE and CAPITAL LETTERS.
Not even Okuu's powers screw around with her hair color.

Does this mean Monk radiation is more powerful than Yatagarasu radiation, or is Byakuren's hair just less resistant to ambient damage?

This is unprecedented serious affair!!!

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2010, 02:32:39 AM »
Not even Okuu's powers screw around with her hair color.

Does this mean Monk radiation is more powerful than Yatagarasu radiation, or is Byakuren's hair just less resistant to ambient damage?

This is unprecedented serious affair!!!

in b4 people start discussing Keine's ability to change her hair color and then people start using science / logic in this discussion ;p
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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2010, 05:28:22 AM »
And because single-colored hair is too boring for a stage 6 boss anyway  :derp:
And every other S6 boss now wants a word with you.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2010, 05:33:14 AM »
Byakuren is the last Boss.
Byakuren is stilish.
Byakuren is the youkai Jesus.

She can have an multicoloured hair..I have no problem with that^^

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2010, 06:02:25 AM »
And every other S6 boss now wants a word with you.
Utsuho is #1 and the first evil Touhou character. Plus, sexy nuclear hell raven of demonic destruction!  >:D
Yuyuko is a fatass who craps butterflies and wears a Debian Linux icon on her cap. That's interesting enough already.
Remilia is a vampire that although she doesn't go out for blood, she still shines a million more times than that shithead Edward.
Kaguya is a princess based off an old Japanese folk tale. She helped me ace a Japanese test. NO KIDDING!
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Kanako is a goddess and she has purple hair, so she's cool.
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barely... Sanae overshadows her. =[

And Byakuren? She doesn't have a heterochromia like Kogasa, but she has gradient hair.

Other than that, she'd be just a magician, overshadowed by Marisuh. Dying for the sins of others?
I ha ha old chap'd when I read that. That, and Sanae's conversation is too flat. "Oh, Imma kick your ass cuz you're Youkai." pfft

If I elaborate, the thread will go off topic.

But yeah, Byakuren probably wouldn't be as a popular if she didn't truly have gradient hair. She's not a final boss just for sho'  ;)
« Last Edit: June 10, 2010, 07:51:36 AM by GreenVirus »

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2010, 06:26:40 AM »
Utsuho is #1 and the first evil Touhou character.

Utsuho ain't evil. Just sayin'

And I still say it's the sunlight, and she doesn't actually have gradient.

[fakeedit] Hold on. Can't we just look at what she looks like in the actual ending bits? Or is she not portrayed there? I can't remember.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2010, 07:43:54 AM »
Utsuho ain't evil. Just sayin'

And I still say it's the sunlight, and she doesn't actually have gradient.

[fakeedit] Hold on. Can't we just look at what she looks like in the actual ending bits? Or is she not portrayed there? I can't remember.
They don't have color. Although Byakuren appears in Reimu A's, and Sanae B's ending.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2010, 08:51:24 AM »
@Helepolis
Out of curiosity I pasted "surprise torn_clothes" straight into Danbooru and your uncensored avatar was the first result.

How convenient...  :V

@topic: Someone said earlier about Byakuren having different colored hair due to old age...
Likely... but then you'd wonder why the same isn't with Kanako, Yuyuko/?, or Eirin.

Yukari is 17.

Can someone pull Byakuren's sprites from DS?


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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2010, 09:47:20 AM »
Wouldn't Drake have the images ripped from DS?

Anyways, I just played some DS 12-1, and when Byakuren is flying in - and she probably hasn't pulled out her scroll completely, either - her hair is still purple.

So...

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2010, 12:05:54 PM »
it's totally caused by her super buddhist magic pwrz
the same way mokou got that weird hair color of hers because of hourai. oh, and they're both immortal.

Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2010, 12:29:53 PM »
Utsuho ain't evil. Just sayin'

also, Touhou had a canon evil character: Mima. Had, because.. "As she's been an evil spirit for quite a long time, her evilness has completely fallen off from her. "

(since the notion of evil is subjective, often depending on cause.. there are other characters -- shown in the games or not -- which could be considered evil.. however I think that Utsuho didn't really want to burn the surface. She might've been teasing Reimu/Aya, or it could be an effect of the yatagarasu. Possibilities.)
neku: now for something important.
Translations.
How much time do you guys think it will take for HM to be translated? Besides everyone's story modes and the whole menus, there's also the fact that the way HM's programmed is different from all other games. I bet it'll take two months.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2010, 12:32:36 PM »
Anyways, I just played some DS 12-1, and when Byakuren is flying in - and she probably hasn't pulled out her scroll completely, either - her hair is still purple.

So...

Of course! It makes sense! Byakuren is perpetually blueshifted! You can only see the effect on her crown due to her, most likely, flying head-first, and any light waves coming off the rest of her are extended again by turbulent flow around her, assuming we model light as a viscous fluid.

This, of course, means that Byakuren can fly at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light. Screw you, Aya, a challenger's in town.

Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2010, 12:50:11 PM »
This, of course, means that Byakuren can fly at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light. Screw you, Aya, a challenger's in town.

that, if you don't abuse the lack of canon limitations for Suika's powers -- she could make herself larger than the solar system :p (sunlight takes over 8 minutes to reach the Earth)


curious fact:
a well known anime (Saint Seiya) features characters who can fight at nearly lightspeed, yet they need a lot of power to generate an artificial sun to illuminate a certain wall in Hades to get past it. Not trying to apply science in Touhou, especially since the characters aren't seen fighting at such high speeds, yet are able to fight characters who can generate/represent artificial suns, within spellcard system limitations. (a case of Magic A is Magic A?)
neku: now for something important.
Translations.
How much time do you guys think it will take for HM to be translated? Besides everyone's story modes and the whole menus, there's also the fact that the way HM's programmed is different from all other games. I bet it'll take two months.

lusvik: I don't mind about playing HM in japanese. The language of punching other people is international.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2010, 01:20:32 PM »
that, if you don't abuse the lack of canon limitations for Suika's powers -- she could make herself larger than the solar system :p (sunlight takes over 8 minutes to reach the Earth)

Suika still takes time to form and reform - her increasing and decreasing in size are not instantaneous, so there is no reason for her to be able to move faster than how she normally does, anyway. Her being potentially larger than the solar system does not imply anything in this regard.

Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2010, 01:35:40 PM »
*if* she's able to move a little while having that size, she can potentially travel faster than light, due to proportion (however I don't know about how physics work in such a scale). I didn't mean that she should be able to transform at lightspeed; instead, even a piece of her hair should look terrifying (and strong and fast) enough for us earthlings :p
neku: now for something important.
Translations.
How much time do you guys think it will take for HM to be translated? Besides everyone's story modes and the whole menus, there's also the fact that the way HM's programmed is different from all other games. I bet it'll take two months.

lusvik: I don't mind about playing HM in japanese. The language of punching other people is international.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2010, 02:10:43 PM »
*if* she's able to move a little while having that size, she can potentially travel faster than light, due to proportion (however I don't know about how physics work in such a scale).

Ain't how it works. Ee equals Em Cee squared and all that. Still, she could move fast enough to blueshift/redshift upon reaching that size if not for...

 
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even a piece of her hair should look terrifying (and strong and fast) enough for us earthlings :p

... her maximum size being that of Gensokyo. The fact that they reached the Moon in SSiB is approximately irrelevant, as they conceptually got there - they never actually crossed space, everything considered.
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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2010, 03:54:11 PM »
Wouldn't Drake have the images ripped from DS?

Anyways, I just played some DS 12-1, and when Byakuren is flying in - and she probably hasn't pulled out her scroll completely, either - her hair is still purple.

So...
Check the first post. DS uses same sprites from UFO. As if ZUN would recreate all existing sprites for no reason. I already marked that out and explained.

Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2010, 04:53:34 PM »
fightest:
it seems that I've misinterpreted this. I've read about it a (very) long time ago, but long story short, speed of light may not be naturally constant, and can be "slowed down" ( as it passes through matter, not actually slowed down ). Luckily, Suika can manipulate density ( mass and space; Sakuya can stop everything else and walk around, though she was countered by Yorihime even so, so it shouldn't be much of a problem for Suika, however it will likely remain a possibility ), shortening the distance she would like to travel through, though I honestly didn't expect that she would have to resort to that ( not that she's ever done that before, unless you count her black holes.. which might be a representation of her abilities, rather than an actual ability to create black holes ).

About her maximum size being limited to Gensokyo, can't Toyohime create an actual gate to the "real moon", which she used to slay Yukari's familiar crow? Also, even though it's possible that the distance between Gensokyo and the Lunar Capital may be different from reality, it's canon that the USA flag has been thrown back to Earth, and the 3 mischievous fairies have gotten their hands on it. So, it's not like the Lunar Capital is in Gensokyo, or part of it. (plus, there are other large places such as Hakugyokurou and the Heavens. Though not as large enough as in the example I've given, it may be a possibility that her abilities are limited by people's belief in fantasy -- see Byakuren's motivations which got her sealed, and the barrier which separates fantasy from reality --, but then again, youkai have existed much before the sealing of Gensokyo as a physical space. More fuel for discussion if you consider PC-98, where a Makai agency can send Makai residents in a tour to the "real world", and Yumemi can seemingly travel through space and time )
neku: now for something important.
Translations.
How much time do you guys think it will take for HM to be translated? Besides everyone's story modes and the whole menus, there's also the fact that the way HM's programmed is different from all other games. I bet it'll take two months.

lusvik: I don't mind about playing HM in japanese. The language of punching other people is international.

Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2010, 07:21:33 PM »
What do Cirnov radiation and Suika's size have to do with Byakuren's hair-color? ;P

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2010, 08:36:16 PM »
The real reason Byakuren became a witch is because she was afraid of being old, so she used magic to make herself young again. She made  her hair weird colors because it makes her look young and cool
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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2010, 09:04:31 PM »
What do Cirnov radiation and Suika's size have to do with Byakuren's hair-color? ;P

As I said - Byakuren's blueshifted. The rest of that commentary came from this.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2010, 06:15:43 AM »
Ehh, there are arguments for either side, but it's pretty fair to say it's a gradient given her battle sprites.

Then again, it could be another case of ZUNart and ZUNshading to make it look that way.

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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2010, 06:16:57 AM »
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Re: Did Byakuren visit the hair stylist or not?
« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2010, 06:33:49 AM »
Or ZUNLazy.


This is a perfectly viable explanation as well.