Let's argue about why *thing* is/isn't bullshit (Touhou debate thread)

[Sen]

Now that sounds like a waste of time. Its like this: I want to win but hell no i'm spending all that time to learn everything. That shouldn't be necessary. It wasn't before, if it suddenly is then it sucks as far as i'm concerned. Its like if Double Spoiler gave you a bunch of lives and if you ran out you had to start over from the beginning.

That only goes for games i consider to be masterpieces. If i don't like it then any clear will suffice. Like clearing PoFV with Aya or just barely clearing LLS.

Holy shit get over yourself. This is the same attitude that caused everyone to jump on you when you said my Lunatic 1cc of PCB didn't count because it was with SakuyaB.

[The Greatest Dog]

So, just because it's a game that's made by ZUN, you have an obligation to clear it?

Bah. Might as well just try scoring in DS. If you're gonna download tons of replays with the desire to micromemorize shit...

And it's the same as having Spell Practice. :V

[Zengeku]

Holy shit get over yourself. This is the same attitude that caused everyone to jump on you when you said my Lunatic 1cc of PCB didn't count because it was with SakuyaB.

The difference is that i find PCB to be way better designed than PoFV. Because PoFV is just some lazy entry in the series without anything spectacular about it you might as well just clear it as fast as possible abusing whatever you can and get back to playing the more solid games. Like PCB.

Unless you are a fan of PoFV. Then you can go clear with a "legit" character.

Besides, i didn't mean that your 1cc of PCB didn't count (though i probably worded it wrong). I just wanted you to try to do it with a character that isn't as broken as SakuyaB and try to make a good clear. That will just feel more satisfactory unless in fact the goal was to clear the game just to get the game out of the way.

[MTSranger]

Imo UFO does have a weird difficulty jump, in that...
If you can barely dodge the stuff, in other games, you might clear 0/0 or something,
but in UFO you will die horribly.
On the other hand, if you are very comfortable dodging the stuff,
then UFO would not be very hard as you can collect bajillions of lives/bombs.

For me, UFO does cause more rage than any other game (except DS/StB, but I don't really play those)

Oh, and maybe I suck too much, but somehow I can't get used to SakuyaB in PCB...

[Kayin]

The difference is that i find PCB to be way better designed than PoFV. Because PoFV is just some lazy entry in the series without anything spectacular about it you might as well just clear it as fast as possible abusing whatever you can and get back to playing the more solid games. Like PCB.

Unless you are a fan of PoFV. Then you can go clear with a "legit" character.

Besides, i didn't mean that your 1cc of PCB didn't count (though i probably worded it wrong). I just wanted you to try to do it with a character that isn't as broken as SakuyaB and try to make a good clear. That will just feel more satisfactory unless in fact the goal was to clear the game just to get the game out of the way.

PoFV isn't lazy, it's just meant to be a PvP game.

[Formless God]

That just contradicts what i'm usually told about UFO. That its not too much harder than the other Touhou games.

Sauce.

Besides, i didn't mean that your 1cc of PCB didn't count (though i probably worded it wrong). I just wanted you to try to do it with a character that isn't as broken as SakuyaB and try to make a good clear.

Well ... you worded it wrong again :colonveeplusalpha:

[Zengeku]

Well ... you worded it wrong again :colonveeplusalpha:

How? If you like the game and you just barely clear it in the most abusing manner wouldn't it be a good idea to work towards a better run?

[Kilgamayan]

You worded it wrong because you're still telling him it doesn't count.

[Zengeku]

In the sense that i still call SakuyuB broken? Or the fact that i say that he should aim for a good clear? Or something entirely else?

SakuyaB i indeed find broken. I played once with her and even though things went horrible i still managed to win with 5 lives in stock.

And i wouldn't call a 1cc that finishes with 0/0 a good run in any sense of the word. You should be happy about it if it marks any improvement for you but i just say that SenSageUn should try to improve it because it will be more satisfying that way. I'm saying this because my first 1cc ended 4/0 iirc and i didn't think it was a good run either because the score was crap.

[ebarrett]

That just contradicts what i'm usually told about UFO. That its not too much harder than the other Touhou games.

That's probably what Baity tells you. Usain Bolt will also tell you that running a hundred meters under 10 seconds is no big deal.

And i wouldn't call a 1cc that finishes with 0/0 a good run in any sense of the word. You should be happy about it if it marks any improvement for you but i just say that SenSageUn should try to improve it because it will be more satisfying that way. I'm saying this because my first 1cc ended 4/0 iirc and i didn't think it was a good run either because the score was crap.

You should rethink the "elitist by accident" thing, y'know. There have been 0/0 clears (or something near 0/0) in the last few days which were completely satisfying for their owners until you started to crap on them and tell people that they're not good enough.

[The Greatest Dog]

A 1cc is a 1cc. There's no way to debate about it.

I mean, sure. SakuyaB is one of the higher damage dealers with a shit load of bombs through the game. But there's a lot of ways you can go about 1cc'ing the games, you know.

It doesn't matter if it could be improved, it's a 1cc.

Though, I bet I could 1cc MoF Lunatic with MarisaC, capture VoWG in that 1cc attempt and bombspam the rest of the game and I'd get some flak about not using ReimuB.

Although it's not like I'd go "WHY CAN'T I 1CC MOUNTAIN OF FAITH LUNATIC DURR HURR"

[Zengeku]

There have been 0/0 clears (or something near 0/0) in the last few days which were completely satisfying for their owners until you started to crap on them and tell people that they're not good enough.

Really? All i want for people is to try and get better based on my own experiences with 0/0 clears. I guess i have been an evil SoB...

[Vibri]

1ccs don't count if you use a bomb anywhere
why don't you just face the danmaku you fucking pussies

[Kilgamayan]

1ccs? what a fucking joke

1lc or get the hell out of my touhou, you secondaries

[Vibri]

spellcard capture more like "skipping 3/4ths of the bullets"

last I checked touhou was a danmaku shooter not a cheat your way out of dodging things shooter

[nintendonut888]

Y-you know, after really looking at it, I'm gonna stay far away from this thread from now on. ;>_>

[Serela]

spellcard capture more like "skipping 3/4ths of the bullets"

last I checked touhou was a danmaku shooter not a cheat your way out of dodging things shooter

yeah people god, stop being a bitch and shooting the fairies, just deal with it and dodge the motherfucking bullets

[The Greatest Dog]

EoSD.
Bomb Stock = 0
Life Stock = 1
No Visible Hitbox Patch
90FPS

Fuck, what am I saying? Are we taking this seriously?

[Vibri]

No no no no your 1ccs still count they're just garbage is all

[Drake]

EoSD.
Bomb Stock = 0
Life Stock = 1
No Visible Hitbox Patch
90FPS

Fuck, what am I saying? Are we taking this seriously?

Difficulty?

[Serela]

Difficulty?

EoSD Ultra Hack ofc

[Zengeku]

I don't think whatever i have to say would help. I guess i'll just shut up now and try to be more of a nice guy in the future.

[trancehime]

1ccs? what a fucking joke

1lc or get the hell out of my touhou, you secondaries

I 1LC'd HRtP Jigoku Normal, does that count? :ohdear:

Really? All i want for people is to try and get better based on my own experiences with 0/0 clears. I guess i have been an evil SoB...

It's less that and more that you were completely insensitive to these people in question. I am by no means a very good Touhou player and you yourself refused to believe that I was capable of 1cc'ing the PC-98 games despite me, y'know, playing Touhou PC-98 games since 2004? And I only managed these 1cc's YEARS AFTER? Christ. Have some empathy. And yes I still remember when you would argue this with Donut and I before.

[Zengeku]

At that time i didn't know anything about you. You was just a person who suddenly showed up and claimed to have done some 1LC, maybe don't remember specifics, of Mystic Square without any proof at all. Like a screenshot or something. I would still find that fishy today no matter who claimed such a thing unless they got proof.

[trancehime]

I just mentioned which game I 1LC'd...

Also I was here long before almost all of you :/ Unless you meant the Help Me Eirin! board  :derp:

[Zengeku]

I just mentioned which game I 1LC'd...

Also I was here long before almost all of you :/ Unless you meant the Help Me Eirin! board  :derp:

Yes and i didn't believe you. It was too outlandish. The fact that you had played the PC-98 games since 2004 made it much more believeable though.

[Alice Fact]

The difference is that i find PCB to be way better designed than PoFV. Because PoFV is just some lazy entry in the series without anything spectacular about it you might as well just clear it as fast as possible abusing whatever you can and get back to playing the more solid games. Like PCB.

do you even know what PoFV is

[Zengeku]

do you even know what PoFV is

Yes i do. And because i don't like it i'm contempt with a lunatic 1cc even if it is with Aya. Its concept is very different from regular Touhou games but i don't like the style of gameplay and i don't like the random nature of it. Like having to dodge Lily White while Komachi simultaneously goes on screen to spam her coin attacks.

But i understand that there is a lot of people who likes PoFV so i have decided not to complain too much about it. Its just not my type of game so i'm well satisfied with an Aya 1cc even if people find her broken.

You might find that quite hypocritical of a person who have "shelled" a person for using SakuyaB to clear PCB. But i don't really think it is.

[Tengukami]

It's really too bad that sneering arrogance can't be converted into electricity.

[Zengeku]

sorry