Author Topic: STG THREAD 5 WAS PREPARED WITH MUCH TROUBLE. YOU DO WHAT. (Read 111087 times)

Bananamatic · « **Reply #90 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:15:42 AM »

He really isn't THAT difficult once you figure out his pattern(which took me a while to figure out)

Or rather, speed 3 makes him much, much easier, especially the first phase...I can imagine Sapz perfecting him if he can sightread the fan wave.

Tengukami · « **Reply #91 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:19:20 AM »

Hey guys. After much patient coaching from lumber_of_the_beast, I got DoDonPachi up and running. It's definitely addictive, in that I feel absolutely no remorse about punching in a bunch of credits as I play. Dying frequently is inevitable, but it doesn't matter. Even after realizing that Stage 3 is the groin-kick stage, as opposed to Stage 4 in Touhou, I kept on playing. The music is awful, but I like the arcade look of the graphics. I've only gone as far as Stage 4 but so far, there are a mercifully few different kinds of bullets.

I'm still fitting into it, trying to get into a groove with it. It seems like one of the games I'm liable to start playing for a few brief runs now and then to much more frequently.

Zengar Zombolt · « **Reply #92 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:23:57 AM »

Welcome to the bee hunter party, Ammy!

Quote from: Tengukami on May 08, 2010, 01:19:20 AM

The music is awful

You say what.
I, on the other hand, take the music as one of DDP's biggest assets.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #93 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:24:52 AM »

Can now perfect the normal stage 3 boss outside of 1 attack which is complete WTF. Still haven't beaten Faintear in the stage without dying, though I know how. That second attack pisses me off.

If Zun got the idea for Vajra anywhere else, it was from here. Of course I wouldn't know if the idea was from here or just something he thought of himself.

Comparison of the 2 attacks:

Both have a spinning laser pattern with bullets you have to dodge
Vajra's bullets are static, these are random and are not shot in straight lines.
This one has a much smaller room to dodge, however the lasers disappear for short times.
There is no directing lasers here.
This attack is a lot slower, which makes it nowhere near as fun as Vajra.

The smaller room to dodge in is what is getting me killed. I'm okay at Vajra Hard, but this which should be easier is killing me.

I fucking hate the stage 4 postmidboss section. It is way too damn easy to get walled near the end of it. Stage 4 boss is a dick too.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #94 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:25:28 AM »

Best DDP stage music is DP's st1

sucks how the music loops after st3 though

Azinth · « **Reply #95 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:29:30 AM »

Quote from: Tengukami on May 08, 2010, 01:19:20 AM

Hey guys. After much patient coaching from lumber_of_the_beast, I got DoDonPachi up and running. It's definitely addictive, in that I feel absolutely no remorse about punching in a bunch of credits as I play. Dying frequently is inevitable, but it doesn't matter. Even after realizing that Stage 3 is the groin-kick stage, as opposed to Stage 4 in Touhou, I kept on playing. The music is awful, but I like the arcade look of the graphics. I've only gone as far as Stage 4 but so far, there are a mercifully few different kinds of bullets.

I'm still fitting into it, trying to get into a groove with it. It seems like one of the games I'm liable to start playing for a few brief runs now and then to much more frequently.

Awesome, nice to see more people giving arcade shmups a try!

If DDP interests you, you should try Cave's other games as well as some games from some other developers. I'd recommend Dangun Feveron, Batsugun, Giga Wing, and Gunbird 2.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #96 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:32:20 AM »

I don't remember the stage musics in DDP. Though I remember most of them being decent. The boss music is great though.

Bosses are pretty much the only reason to play though as I can't stand the stages. Should continue my savestate to Hibachi run time since I still need to get them so I can stage practice. 1-6 was kicking my ass though as I have no idea how to deal with it at the moment, so that's as far as I am in that run. I wanted to try to avoid dying/bombing in that run so I could practice at high rank. But then I don't know all the things about rank, so I could just be making the savestate to Hibachi run harder than it needs to be.

I've gotten to stage 5 without savestates on 1 credit.

Aisha · « **Reply #97 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:34:06 AM »

I don't like DoDonPachi's music either, but whenever I play, it just keeps me going for some reason. Music in Cave games gets awesome from ESP Ra.De. and onwards, though.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #98 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:35:09 AM »

And Donpachi has the announcer. Why did they take him out

Aisha · « **Reply #99 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:37:09 AM »

Quote from: Bananamatic on May 08, 2010, 01:35:09 AM

And Donpachi has the announcer. Why did they take him out

He came back in Dangun Feveron. :V

Bananamatic · « **Reply #100 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:41:42 AM »

Quote from: Aisha on May 08, 2010, 01:37:09 AM

He came back in Dangun Feveron. :V

he seriously shouts DICKS when you bomb

lmagus · « **Reply #101 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:42:29 AM »

Yay I can consistently get to Ketsui's 3rd stage now.

Still working on those bombs. I love dying with lots of them =)

Matsuri · « **Reply #102 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:51:00 AM »

Arrange ULTRA, Khoa.

Don't use bullet repelling, either. :*

Tengukami · « **Reply #103 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:58:04 AM »

I think I like using the green helocopter guy the most.

Matsuri · « **Reply #104 on:** May 08, 2010, 02:02:58 AM »

The green heli is a nice medium between the two others.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #105 on:** May 08, 2010, 02:10:29 AM »

You can't avoid the bullet repelling or proximity slowdown, but if you avoid switching characters, you'll run out of that quickly. Of course, there's autobomb but still.

Arrange Original can be 1cc'd without ever switching. Ultra obviously isn't.

Edit:

Just did another THE attempt. Perfect Stage 1. Perfect Stage 2. Die with 4 bombs in stock because I missed a throw and tried to dodge something I should have known better than. Miss the bomb for the stage. Die with 2 bombs in stock. Rage quit.

I'll do this 1cc or 1LC tomorrow. It could go either way actually.

Sapz · « **Reply #106 on:** May 08, 2010, 03:03:53 AM »

Welcome to the ranks of the bee hunters, Ammy. :V Very interesting to see you've picked type B; not a lot of people go with that, for some reason. Nice to see you're having fun with it, it's a great game~

Quote from: Bananamatic on May 08, 2010, 01:15:42 AM

I can imagine Sapz perfecting him if he can sightread the fan wave.

I tried him for a little while today... I think I can just about read it fast enough but it'll take a loooong, long while to get consistent at any of the phases past the first one. Using Gain seems like the way to go for me. Maybe I should start trying this more seriously.

And of course, great job on the vid. :3

Quote from: Enigma on May 08, 2010, 01:32:20 AM

1-6 was kicking my ass though as I have no idea how to deal with it at the moment, so that's as far as I am in that run.

The key to doing well in Stage 6 is to both know roundabouts where the high danger enemies are (such as the hugeass rows of turrets or the big tanks), and to be extremely aggressive, making sure you destroy them before they can fill the screen up with bullets. If you'll forgive the shameless self-plug, here's the general method I use.

Managed to no miss/bomb the Stage 5 boss' final attack in DOJ. \o/ Now I just need a run where I actually, uh, reach Stage 5 again. :V

Azinth · « **Reply #107 on:** May 08, 2010, 03:35:40 AM »

Gunbird 2. No-miss to the 1-6 boss. Gameover at the start of 1-7. 890K score

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

Formless God · « **Reply #108 on:** May 08, 2010, 03:47:20 AM »

DDP's music was kind of weak. DOJ was cooler and I especially liked DFK's wide range of BGMs.

KOA · « **Reply #109 on:** May 08, 2010, 05:56:39 AM »

I think DFK BL is my absolute favourite even though it has no resemblance to its roots whatsoever.

EDIT: Well that sucks. A friend of mine is telling me that Ketsui's already hitting bargain bins.

beaver1231 · « **Reply #110 on:** May 08, 2010, 06:56:26 AM »

Quote from: SFKhoa改 on May 08, 2010, 05:56:39 AM

I think DFK BL is my absolute favourite even though it has no resemblance to its roots whatsoever.

EDIT: Well that sucks. A friend of mine is telling me that Ketsui's already hitting bargain bins.

That's fast.

Also, I need a easy shmup to 1cc.

KOA · « **Reply #111 on:** May 08, 2010, 07:16:06 AM »

easy within bullet hell limits? cuz I can recommend shitloads of 16-bit-era games for you if you don't want bullet hell. :V

Aisha · « **Reply #112 on:** May 08, 2010, 07:32:37 AM »

Quote from: SFKhoa改 on May 08, 2010, 05:56:39 AM

I think DFK BL is my absolute favourite even though it has no resemblance to its roots whatsoever.

EDIT: Well that sucks. A friend of mine is telling me that Ketsui's already hitting bargain bins.

Why is Ketsui hitting the bargain bins already?

Formless God · « **Reply #113 on:** May 08, 2010, 07:44:23 AM »

If it's not rape it's not bullet hell ~~if it's not bullet hell it's not fun~~ BV

beaver1231 · « **Reply #114 on:** May 08, 2010, 08:11:24 AM »

Quote from: SFKhoa改 on May 08, 2010, 07:16:06 AM

easy within bullet hell limits? cuz I can recommend shitloads of 16-bit-era games for you if you don't want bullet hell. :V

I forgot. Doujin or MAME only. I'm kinda low on funds now.

Bullet hell's fine. I remember losing 7 credits in an attempt to clear DDP.

Quote from: Formless God on May 08, 2010, 07:44:23 AM

If it's not rape it's not bullet hell ~~if it's not bullet hell it's not fun~~ BV

Phalanx on funny difficulty. Try it now.

KOA · « **Reply #115 on:** May 08, 2010, 08:18:55 AM »

Quote from: Aisha on May 08, 2010, 07:32:37 AM

Why is Ketsui hitting the bargain bins already?

People are just buying the game just to achievement-grind, then return it.

Aisha · « **Reply #116 on:** May 08, 2010, 09:19:07 AM »

That sounds like an awful way to waste money. Do they even get full value upon returning games, or are they just that into achievements (I'll never understand the appeal of these..)?

lmagus · « **Reply #117 on:** May 08, 2010, 12:09:08 PM »

lol that's pathetic

Erppo · « **Reply #118 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:04:18 PM »

Quote from: beaver1231 on May 08, 2010, 06:56:26 AM

Also, I need a easy shmup to 1cc.

It's not that easy, but for a somewhat reasonable arcade 1cc I would recommend the normal course of Battle Bakraid. I think it was the first modern arcade shmup that I managed to 1cc. It's also pretty fun game, at least until you watch a superplay where the player milks 5 extends worth of score from the first boss.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #119 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:47:44 PM »

Derped Stage 3 and Stage 3 boss enough that I had to bomb 3 times due to the stupid mistakes.

Then I died to Faintear's spinning laser crap again, then timed it out on the next life because I can't do damage worth crap.

Then I died with a bomb in stock on Stage 4, then had to bomb the postmidboss enemies like usual. Then the boss was more of a dick than usual killing me twice leaving me at stage 5 0/1.

Of course I died because I then had to bomb something I normally don't have to then got walled due to screwing up.

Ended with 128,913,940

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