STG THREAD 5 WAS PREPARED WITH MUCH TROUBLE. YOU DO WHAT.

[Jaimers]

Made it to 1-5 in daioujou.

...1-4 did not go very well. I have no idea how to handle that kart section or that wall section.
Oh well, good thing there's stage practice.

Also dying because I think I'm invincible during hypers does not help.  :V

[Zengar Zombolt]

Tried out Hydorah.
GodDAMN what a resourcewhore. Can't even play more than two minutes.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I've gotten close to 1ccing Eden's Aegis Original before but always screwed up. Maybe I'll be able to get it during this week. What's the best character for scoring anyway. I always picked Maple.

[Aisha]

It's been a while since I last played, but I don't think it matters that much as long as you aren't accidentally killing key enemies before they are able to flood the screen with bullets. I usually just use Eve, but I like Nanathy as well.

I'd love to see a replay of someone effectively using Ridmie to clear the game.

[Erppo]

I'd love to see a replay of someone effectively using Ridmie to clear the game.

Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/?ljmua5n4inl. Just recorded that. I'm not sure about the effectively part, but at least it's a clear (with autoguard) and I think it showcases her awesome damage output pretty well. I really messed up the beginning of stage 4 and missed many good scoring opportunities in stage 5, but otherwise it went pretty well.

She is certainly different from the other shot types. Her speed makes focused dodging a pain, but if you use her well you don't even have to dodge that much stuff. She also totally rapes all the bosses except the stage 3 one, who is hard to get close to and whose attacks require slow focused dodging.


Because it seems we're going to play this, I'd like to know how are we going to handle all the settings. I know all defaults is some sort of holy rule in these things, but the Wait option is seriously stupid so my suggestion is to have everyone play without it. It's pretty clear the game isn't really meant to be played with it since it actually makes all those "hard" attacks with slowdown much easier than all the normal attacks.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I'd rather the only option that can be changed outside of controls to be Autoguard due to the bonuses for not using it and the penalty for using it.

And having Wait off nerfs your score way too much. Less bulets to cancel. And there is no proof either way of which way the game is balanced more towards.

Also, I would prefer my scores be submittable elsewhere if I ever decide to.

[Aisha]

I would hazard a guess that people would have more fun with Wait mode turned on. It makes it easier to get farther in the game, which means less time practicing survival and more time spent on score, the bulk of which comes from the last two stages.

[Matsuri]

Ah, sorry I haven't been around today.

This week's game is Eden's Aegis.

I've got some stuff going on, so just play the game normally, and I'll try to set up the new scoreboard tomorrow. Sorry about this.

[LtC]

Can we please play with wait OFF. It's really gamebreaking and makes runs last like 2 times longer (Even the songs loop if you play with wait ON).

[Matsuri]

I'll probably just make it optional, just include whether you played with wait on or off in your score post.

[Krimmydoodle]

Alright, lets try this shit!

Wait, game over after Stage 2?  All clear?

* Krimmy M. Doodle needs more info on this game.

Edit: Oh, version .22?  I seem to have acquired a demo.

[Azinth]

Alright, lets try this shit!

Wait, game over after Stage 2?  All clear?

* Krimmy M. Doodle needs more info on this game.

Edit: Oh, version .22?  I seem to have acquired a demo.

http://www004.upp.so-net.ne.jp/x_xgameroom/ 


So, I've been trying the newest version out, but it seems that none of my scores are being saved, practice mode is re-locking itself every time I restart, and it's not letting me save replays.  Anyone else having these problems?

Also, this game is a complete abortion with wait on.  Seconding the motion to require turning it off. :V

[lumber_of_the_beast]

I have to choose between Starcraft II and Deathsmiles

What do I do :ohdear:

Spoiler:

Also, I approve of having separate wait-on and wait-off scoreboards. I might actually manage a 1CC with wait on!

[Krimmydoodle]

So, I've been trying the newest version out, but it seems that none of my scores are being saved, practice mode is re-locking itself every time I restart, and it's not letting me save replays.  Anyone else having these problems?

I haven't had this problem with this game, but I had it in the past with Touhou, and in that situation, it really doesn't matter what the game was.  The problem was that because of paranoid Windows, my account wasn't set to have write privileges where the game's files were stored, so make sure you do have those privileges set so that the game doesn't fail to write the necessary files for scores and replays.

[Aisha]

http://www004.upp.so-net.ne.jp/x_xgameroom/ 


So, I've been trying the newest version out, but it seems that none of my scores are being saved, practice mode is re-locking itself every time I restart, and it's not letting me save replays.  Anyone else having these problems?

Also, this game is a complete abortion with wait on.  Seconding the motion to require turning it off. :V

Right click on the game folder and see if Read-only is ticked. If it isn't, then I don't know. :V

[Erppo]

What is a good score in Eden's Aegis anyway? I just turned Wait on and tried to do scoring run of Original and got 78M. Is that average or crap?

I'm not really sure how to score in this. I guess dying in the middle of stage 5 was really bad for my score. I also thought I should suicide in the beginning of stage 4 since I had no bombs left and I didn't want to die in the middle and break my chain.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

That's a lot better than my crappy score. I haven't even gotten past 30,000,000. It can be a lot better than that though.

Oh, and pick Deathsmiles. StarCraft II isn't looking too good. Didn't find the beta very fun even after custom maps got added.The original StarCraft and Brood War has better multiplayer than this does. However, custom maps will be a lot better due to more options available in the editor. It's pretty much just remakes of SC maps right now for customs. Also, there will probably be one overly popular map that isn't even actually fun and requires no skills like DotA in WC3.

[Krimmydoodle]

I gave an Original-Wait attempt and scored 95M.  It probably could have been 100M, but I died to the final boss by misjudging my movement speed during a waitlag spike, killing my chain and thus my bonus on the boss' items, and also losing me 3M at the end-of-game stock bonus.

For reference, my current Original-Full Speed best is just under 60M, which was an odd run in that I wasn't focusing on score at the time, and that I haven't been able to beat it with a scoring mindset afterwards, but this is based on having played this today and never before then, so I'm still trying to figure things out.

Edit: Original-Full Speed, 81M and 1cc... except, I wasn't allowed to enter my name or save the replay?  *sigh

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

There's some sort of anticheat thing in the game. Maybe you have something going on that's falsely triggering it. It wouldn't be the first time someone had the problem.

[Formless God]

Uh ... does this game have a TLB like BWR ? If so, how to unlock ?

[Erppo]

Okay, I think I have some idea of the scoring now. Got 108M in Original-Wait-Guard. Its ridiculous how much score the final stage is worth. I think I entered it with 40M or something.

I really like to use Nanathy for scoring. Her special attack usually paints everything on screen blue and when you immediately follow it with the normal shot you can usually clear the whole screen of bullets.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

1cc Hell. Not sure if you can just 1cc the final stage of practice to fight it or not. Something else I've seen says that it varies by character, but I highly doubt this.

In .90 there's supposed to be a file that can be used to unlock it for practice, but I never got .90 or know what the file needs to be named or have in it.

Edit: Actually, there's a 1cc vid that doesn't have it. So a 1cc isn't enough maybe. Or there are requirements based on character choice.

[Azinth]

I noticed some other stuff while playing.  Don't know if it's common knowledge but it was news to me:
-There's a secret extend in stage 4 during the midboss.  Right before he starts his final pattern, there's a small piece of rock jutting out to the right,  Use the special shot on it to reveal the extend.
-There's an Accel mode in this game, and you access it the same way as in BWR.

Also liek why is the stage 3 boss the hardest thing in the game

[Aisha]

Edit: Original-Full Speed, 81M and 1cc... except, I wasn't allowed to enter my name or save the replay?  *sigh

Did you pause during the run?

[Krimmydoodle]

WELL I'M SORRY I HAD TO SCRATCH MY NOSE I GUESS MY SCORE IS INVALID NOW BECAUSE I'M A FILTHY FUCKING CHEATER!



Well, my pause button is now set to a button I'll never touch.  I'll give this another shot later when I'm not horribly sleep deprived.

[Aisha]

Haha, I hate not being able to pause too. :V

Don't touch the space bar either. For some reason x.x. thought it would be a great idea to make it the "reset game" button. I accidentally hit it one time during a potential 1CC run in stage 5. :|

[Sapz]

In case you guys haven't seen them yet, here are some screens of the Deathsmiles dialogue in the US version. Greatest translation job I have ever seen.

Spoiler:

'Mein Gott' cracked me up so hard.

Made it to 2-5 in Dodonpachi for the second time today. The way the deaths were spread out was damn odd, to say the least; 1-5, after the bit that usually kills me, 1-6 boss, twice on 2-2 (stupidstupidstupid), 2-3 boss with a bomb in stock, 2-4 boss with a bomb in stock (could have been a no-miss 2-4 if not for that...), and early 2-5. 2-6 seems easily within my reach if I manage an all-around good run, but I need to get more consistent at things, as per usual.

[Matsuri]

yeah, the shmups forum guys are flipping the fuck out about that

I'm just laughing at it really xD

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I'm a little annoyed at it. Game will still be  great though.

[Krimmydoodle]

Don't touch the space bar either. For some reason x.x. thought it would be a great idea to make it the "reset game" button. I accidentally hit it one time during a potential 1CC run in stage 5. :|

This too, though it's not as much of a problem for me since I'm a gamepad player.  Thankfully, I found out myself in the middle of Stage 3 and not Stage 5.

Made it to 2-5 in Dodonpachi for the second time today. The way the deaths were spread out was damn odd, to say the least; 1-5, after the bit that usually kills me, 1-6 boss, twice on 2-2 (stupidstupidstupid), 2-3 boss with a bomb in stock, 2-4 boss with a bomb in stock (could have been a no-miss 2-4 if not for that...), and early 2-5. 2-6 seems easily within my reach if I manage an all-around good run, but I need to get more consistent at things, as per usual.

Go go Sapz!  Make your avatar a reality and punch the hell out of Hibachi!

I'm just laughing at it really xD