STG THREAD 5 WAS PREPARED WITH MUCH TROUBLE. YOU DO WHAT.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

How's the scoring work in Eden's Edge? Also, where's the secret Extend if there's one. Also seems damn Easy for a Hell mode, 3cc first try as I don't know the stages. So many wasted Autoguards, should have been 2cc.

Also need a reminder of where the secret Extend was in Eden's Aegis. Also, what was changed between 1.00 and 1.10?

Don't need to know anything about Green Wind or Blue Wish because they suck and will not be playing them.

[Bananamatic]

Dangun Feveron - another game where I can't even get 1m while others get 5x that for no apparent reason

[Azinth]

for no apparent reason

are you like trying to parody yourself at this point or something

[Bananamatic]

are you like trying to parody yourself at this point or something

it's like battle garegga
people getting 4x the score I have at the same stage I got to, yet I don't see a way to get that many points

dodonpachi makes it obvious, my chaining sucks
esprade makes it obvious, I need higher multipliers

so from what I found out: kill everything, don't miss cyborgs

I do that and the stage high is almost 2x of the score I got
it makes no fucking sense

[KOA]

Dangun Feveron - another game where I can't even get 1m while others get 5x that for no apparent reason

It's all about speedkill.

[LHCling]

Baity and/or anyone else.. can you please explain me what's so motivating about playing Touhou games for score ( besides HRtP/LLS/PoFV )?

Preference really. You may want to ask Heartbeam for PCB. That said, I'm only interested in MoF, UFO and DS scoring. MoF is the least memory-intensive and scoring revolves heavily around doing the bosses as perfectly as you can, UFO has this awesome factor about running around the screen without getting hit or requires a special skill subset known as resource management. Now, resource management in UFO with regard to scoring is actually fun; you can set your own limitations as to how you score (this is also present in the other games, but more apparent in this one). DS is self-explanatory for the most part; however there are certain tricks that need to be learned to get thos better scores (see: 7-7). I would say StB as well but it's... lacking. Plus, grating music, etc.

Tip when playing for score: don't just outright copy a WR; I never ever follow any form of 'superplay' replays if it's well and truly beyond me.

actually Baity, what is your average extra score

also, I wonder why are the touhou weekly contests dead after a few weeks :smug:

I don't play Extra for score. That said, my scores range from 100mil (from No Vert'ing with SanaeB) to 350mil; averaging out scores isn't exactly the best thing to do here.

That's because the number of people who actively score can only be counted on a single hand  :smug:

Oh, also:

Battle Garegga...AGAIN

seriously, I can't get to the default scoreboard by reaching the st3 boss

Bomb the flamingoes already FFS. Sorry, had to get it out of my system.

[Bananamatic]

Oh, also:Bomb the flamingoes already FFS. Sorry, had to get it out of my system.

I did that. 2 bombs equal 75% of getting to the st4 boss.
I just don't see how is it physically possible to get 2m more, or even a letter score.

So...what was your top Extra score :V

[LHCling]

The you're most probably not taking out all the "components" of a boss before the "mainframe", for instance the Stage 2 Boss gives out ~1.4mil when done right (been a while since I played so I don't outright remember). Stage 2 is a scorefest  :V

And,

350mil

Though, I haven't updated my current score on the scoreboard at this point so yeah. Probably won't for an indefinite period.

[Bananamatic]

I milk the bosses, but

the st2 boss is a sphere and he dies before I hit anything else

what exactly is there left to kill after all of the big round things

[LHCling]

The arms connecting the inner and outer turrets? The inner ring turrets as well I believe.

[Aisha]

How's the scoring work in Eden's Edge? Also, where's the secret Extend if there's one. Also seems damn Easy for a Hell mode, 3cc first try as I don't know the stages. So many wasted Autoguards, should have been 2cc.

Also need a reminder of where the secret Extend was in Eden's Aegis. Also, what was changed between 1.00 and 1.10?

Don't need to know anything about Green Wind or Blue Wish because they suck and will not be playing them.

Secret extend is hidden on the right side of the screen during the stage 4 midboss.

The 1.10 patch adds Accel mode, the ability to change enemy bullet color, and includes game balance adjustments.

[Sapz]

Ketsui stage 5 3D15B in practice mode. Yes, this is an accomplishment. Goddamnit. <_>

[lmagus]

whats your top score so far?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I derped Stage 3 of Eden's Aegis Original so damn badly.

I should have probably made it to the 30,000,000 extend, but nope. Game overed somewhere between Stage 5 midboss and Stage 5 bosses.

[KOA]

Ketsui stage 5 3D15B in practice mode. Yes, this is an accomplishment. Goddamnit. <_>

If you had both score extends, both secret extends, and no-missed up to that point, that still would've been a 1CC. Just food for thought.

[Sapz]

whats your top score so far?

58m or so. Still working on that. :P

If you had both score extends, both secret extends, and no-missed up to that point, that still would've been a 1CC. Just food for thought.

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping, though I don't know if I could no-miss up to that point. The first two stages are easily no-missable, and I'm confident I could 1 miss Stage 3 and 4 in a good run, which leaves me with five lives for the final stage. Of course, I usually die collecting the second hidden extend. :V It's a pretty tough one to nab.

[Zengar Zombolt]

@____@
And this was my first run as Peace too!

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I can't play a shmup well today at all

Derp Touhou, derp Eden's Aegis, derp Eden's Edge, derp Blue Wish Resurrection.

I don't even know where Eden's Edge's secret extend is at. At least the Eden's Aegis and Blue Wish Resurrection ones aren't bad.

[Matsuri]

Why is BWR+ inferior to the original, again? I just played Original mode and 1cc'd with 35mil using Eden's Edge. I am quite happy with this.

[Naut]

UFO has this awesome factor about running around the screen without getting hit or requires a special skill subset known as resource management. Now, resource management in UFO with regard to scoring is actually fun; you can set your own limitations as to how you score (this is also present in the other games, but more apparent in this one).

This is why UFO is amazing. Set your own limitations. Beasting around the screen is a fuck yeah as well.

God, I love UFO.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

LtC, try Eden's Edge Doom Mode. Even crazier than BWR Hell.

I could see myself potentially 1ccing Eden's Edge on Hell as I've gotten a 2cc. Doom mode however. 5cc, oh crap a TLB, make that 6cc. Yep, number of continues does not matter.

Edit: or was it 7cc?

Eden's Edge TLB vid

[Aisha]

All this talk about Eden's Edge made me give it another go and I managed to figure out how to make it go full-screen; I wonder why I never checked there before..

On my first go I managed to 1CC all the way up to the last boss only to lose it with a sliver of health left.

Oh well.

EDIT: 4 am late night second attempt: 1CC get.

[shadowbringer]

Preference really. You may want to ask Heartbeam for PCB. That said, I'm only interested in MoF, UFO and DS scoring. MoF is the least memory-intensive and scoring revolves heavily around doing the bosses as perfectly as you can, UFO has this awesome factor about running around the screen without getting hit or requires a special skill subset known as resource management. Now, resource management in UFO with regard to scoring is actually fun; you can set your own limitations as to how you score (this is also present in the other games, but more apparent in this one). DS is self-explanatory for the most part; however there are certain tricks that need to be learned to get thos better scores (see: 7-7). I would say StB as well but it's... lacking. Plus, grating music, etc.

Tip when playing for score: don't just outright copy a WR; I never ever follow any form of 'superplay' replays if it's well and truly beyond me.

thank you very much.. this means that I could enjoy UFO if I decided to remove grazing from my gameplay and learn the UFO routes.. ( even though the no-grazing would hurt my score, anyways ) ..by the way, which is the UFO order, if it's established and made common-knowledge?

As for DS.. this was the last time I ever touched DS for score: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8039

getting all the explosions and doing the other scenes is.. ( something that I should do later, when I'm no longer stressed about DS.. )

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Why is BWR+ inferior to the original, again? I just played Original mode and 1cc'd with 35mil using Eden's Edge. I am quite happy with this.

I could understand if the complaints were about the amount of extends. But the people saying it's inferior just complain about the slowdown which isn't even a valid complaint because you can turn the thing off, then the patterns actually become harder since the bullet patterns are harder in plus. Hell still isn't easy, and getting an All! still takes effort.  You can put Accel onto every mode making the thing harder.


Also, I need to quit screwing up on Futari God mode. I'm panic bombing stage 1 boss, screwing up Stage 2 like always, having no idea how to do the stage 2 boss. Screwing up stages way too much. I got to Stage 3 earlier but I didn't even beat my Stage 2 score from a while back. If I just quit screwing up, and actually figured out how stage 2 works, and figured out how to actually dodge some attacks, I could probably get to Stage 4. I was close to the Stage 3 boss when I game overed.

[Matsuri]

Futari God mode

quit screwing up

Easier said than done. I'm in the same spot you are, here xD

[Azinth]

I could understand if the complaints were about the amount of extends. But the people saying it's inferior just complain about the slowdown which isn't even a valid complaint because you can turn the thing off, then the patterns actually become harder since the bullet patterns are harder in plus. Hell still isn't easy, and getting an All! still takes effort.  You can put Accel onto every mode making the thing harder.

Plus version also adds a lot more screen-cancelling enemies, which not only makes stages easier in a bunch of parts but makes it even easier to get extends.  Your firepower is also a bit more powerful in Plus, which can break a few boss patterns(stage 5 boss first phase, for example).  Also, I thought Plus and Original had the same patterns except for the TLB being modified?  At least, I don't remember there being much of a difference, it's been a while.

[Zengar Zombolt]

Soooo.
What was the difference between Hell, Heaven and Original modes in BWR+?

[Naut]

..by the way, which is the UFO order, if it's established and made common-knowledge?

Like Baity said, the UFO order is whatever you want it to be. The general idea, for score anyway, is to stock up on lives for the first three stages (collect reds in almost the exact order they appear, though you can fiddle around with them for a point value increase), collect UFO tokens on stage 4 (with many rainbows), then collect blues all over the place on stage 5 and 6. There are a few tricks you can learn to significantly boost your score, which can only be learned by watching replays. For example, you can delay a blue UFO til post midboss Nue on stage 6 to get a substantial point bonus when she releases a whole load of point items (if you're full power when you pass her). Most of Baity's 700 mil+ replays show this trick. I'd recommend downloading a few replays from royal flare to show you some possible UFO routes. I highly recommend not mimicing the top score replays, since they don't collect any lives and it's extremely unlikely you could use their UFO route. Go at your own pace. Telling you a UFO route wont do you any good anyways, since it might not give you enough lives, or you may be stuck with more lives than you need and will thus need to drop some reds for a possible score increase.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

God mode stage 2 is such crap. Part right before midboss, the midboss, the part after midboss, the boss. It's all terrible.  :ohdear:


Black Label Original 1cc as Palm. Entered Larsa 2/0 and finished 0/0. This was with a retarded death with bombs in stock during Stage 3. beat my Reco score too.

[Matsuri]

I played a different bee shmup today.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll65/momijitsukuyomi/exedexesmtsscore.png