Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)

[Serela]

My keyboard's left shift and space decided to start working correctly again! Woo!

To celebrate my return to playing Touhou games not called PoDD Lunatic (aksdhgfda), I did a practice run of UFO Stage 5 Hard with ReimuA.

I perfected Shou almost effortlessly.

...apparently, NOT playing Touhou is very good for my skill.

[scherzo]

I've just 1cc'd my first Touhou game on a difficulty above normal - SA on Lunatic.

[The Greatest Dog]

1cc'd my first Touhou game above normal - SA on Lunatic.

How is that even possible - good job.

[Naut]

I've just 1cc'd my first Touhou game on a difficulty above normal - SA on Lunatic.

Congratulations!

[ふねん1]

SA Stage 6 Lunatic perfect run!

That's what I'm talkin' about! This one is extra special to me, since it was Kefit's NDNB equivalent that got me into Touhou in the first place. I've waited so long for this.

[DracoOmega]

Ironic that just after posting about how I was burnt out from running EoSD lunatic too many times in a row, and couldn't read for crap anymore, I immediately succeed in 1ccing it. (Replay)

0D1B Patchy, which I'm pretty pleased with. I entered stage 5 better off than ever have. Kinda lousy Sakuya, though. Also, one of the most terrible Remilia fights I can imagine having, and still winning. Arrived 4/2. Won 0/0. Scarlet Gensokyo alone took a whopping 5 bombs and 1 death. Bomb-tastic on the whole, but hey, it's progress.

Speaking of which, I also got my first MoF lunatic 1cc a couple days ago. (Replay)

Even more bomb-tastic than the above (I'll take some comfort in MoF being supposedly harder to no-bomb, anyway).
I've never personally understood why MoF seems to be often considered the easiest lunatic. On the whole, I find the game considerably harder than EoSD, PCB, or IN, and the 1cc actually surprised me, at this point.

Anyway, that's 4 of 6 lunatic 1ccs now. Just SA and UFO (haha, right) left.

[Zengeku]

A little gift for Formless God and those who call Yuugi their nemesis. A true pacifist run of Yuugi on Lunatic. I die once as i mess her final non-spell up but the entire run should be useful as demonstration of how to beat her. I seriously had to do this after seeing posts about getting walled by her opening non-spell. Seriously, how does that happen? I don't even shoot but i still dodge it without trouble.

Pacifist Yuugi

[Just a GBZero]

FIRST Normal 1CC, PCB.  Reflowering I kinda rushed though due to it being last, and wanting to beat it.  Also first time getting to stage 6 with more than 1 life.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=9083

[GenericTouhouFailure]

I FINALLY 1CC'd MOF normal by bombspam

[LHCling]

I vote EX and SP.

Only one vote so far?  :<

Either way, I didn't beat my initial clear, however this time:

...I have a replay. I should probably just memorize the points where to take the photos already, otherwise I'll end up ~300k short of the theoretical. Constantly. Also, I refuse to use the English Patch for this game on the account that I lose most of my scoring markers. And obviously, I'm lazy so I'd rather not relearn the spots using the english names.

Spoiler:

That said I apparently have a rather large number of EX replays here as opposed to the SP ones. So it's probably a lot more even now, just that SP may or may not be milk-esque

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[IBakaChan]

I just 1cc'd something that wasn't IN! :getdown:

MoF. Easy modo, but I still feel proud of myself.
Srsly though, Kanako's last spellcard is HELL.

[MTSranger]

I just 1cc'd something that wasn't IN! :getdown:

MoF. Easy modo, but I still feel proud of myself.
Srsly though, Kanako's last spellcard is HELL.

Kanako's last spell normal can be captured easily, especially with Marisa C.
Somehow the one in easy mode is like #@$^$#

[Arcengal]

So apparently I've forgotten how to do the entire Kaguya fight apart from Hourai Jewel which has magically become second-nature!?

[The Greatest Dog]

MoF. Easy modo, but I still feel proud of myself.
Srsly though, Kanako's last spellcard is HELL.

That's because Easy Mountain of Faith is harder than Normal Mountain of Faith.

In a nutshell, it's like Lunatic VoWG, only 10x slower and half the bullets, but still has 'solid' walls that ZUN shouldn't expect Easy mode players to clear easily.

[MTSranger]

YES! SA 1cc finally comes!
So time to clear more extras...
Which one should I start with? Ran, Suwako, Koishi, or Nue?

[Alice★f]

YES! SA 1cc finally comes!
So time to clear more extras...
Which one should I start with? Ran, Suwako, Koishi, or Nue?

Start with Ran or Mokou.

I started with those two. They're the easiest and most forgiving Extra stages. However, it's a lot of memorization.

Don't forget that IN lets you practice the Spell Cards individually, so you save a lot of time.

Koishi is HOLY FUCKING SHIT hard. imo.
1000+ Tries, ZERO victories.

[Serela]

Koishi is really hard.

Ran is a great one to start with. Suwako is too. In both cases, you just gotta figure out the first card, and you'll realize they aren't terribly hard.

Nue is worse, but still one of the easier extra stages. One of the funnest ones to play as well, IMO.

[CK Crash]

Extra Difficulties:
EoSD: Easy stage, difficult boss, requires more skill than memorization
PCB: Easy stage and boss, but requires a lot of memorization
IN: Easy stage and boss, a few short segments that require a lot of skill
PoFV: wut
MoF: Very easy stage, easy boss, most forgiving bomb system
SA: Somewhat difficult stage and boss, and most unforgiving as well
UFO: Difficult stage, very easy boss, but requires skill to maximize lives/bombs during the stage

So yeah, Suwako's stage takes the least amount of real dodging skill, and when you screw up, you can bomb and regain the power after 1 or 2 attacks.  PCB and IN extras are pretty equal to me, so after MoF, do whatever seems funner :V

[MTSranger]

Flandre is quite easy for me, either one bomb or capture most cards (all except QED), and non-spells are easy
Moukou has some lol easy spells (Phoenix, Xu Fu Dimension, Honest Man Death), and I captured Hourai Doll
I cleared both of those a while ago.

Now for the rest of them:
I tried Suwako, but somehow can't fit through the dense ring in her 2nd spell (Maybe it's because I'm using Marisa C?)
Koishi = not enough lives
Ran seems okay (Sakuya A, lots of borders)
Nue - undefined darkness and after = wtf, and it's too easy to die multiple times in the stage portion

[Formless God]

Koishi is the easiest of them all. I'd compare her with ... Normal Byakuren.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

From Hardest to Easiest for me

Flandre, Koishi, Mokou, Suwako, Yukari, Nue, Ran

I did my no death Suwako with MarisaC. For that card, you need to wait for the rings to open up a bit more. Also, keep in mind that I have almost perfected both Ran and Yukari, though I haven't gotten either yet.

[Alice★f]

Koishi = not enough lives

SA Extra gives you a maximum of 7 lives. However, if you die a lot (causing you to miss the fragments), then you'll notice you'll run out of lives quickly.

So the death penalty for SA Extra is 1 1/5th life, plus any bombs you had left. Pretty brutal.

[Serela]

Knowing the real death penalty also requires knowing how many life fragments you get in a no-death run; for example, if no-deaths result in ending with 4/5 of a life, then you can die 4 times with no penalty.

Also, with most of Koishi's spellcards, it's MUCH harder to see your deaths coming. They're usually clipdeaths or just come right out of the blue. This results in MANY more deaths with several/all bombs still left, which really really hurts a run.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

On the subject of clipdeaths. Those damn hearts. I don't get how the second one of those cards is supposed to be easier than the first as I've never captured that one. Rorschach, Genetics, Philosophy of a Hated Person, Subterranean Rose all kick my ass way too badly. I wouldn't even be able to consistently get to a lot of the end cards now as I haven't played the stage since my clear.

[Serela]

MariA and MariC are a lot better for SA Extra then they are for the main game purely because of their extra survivability through their special bomb abilities.

Using ReimuA is still probably better, but those two are definitely worth giving a try. Or to do afterwords for fun/whatever.

And ReimuC is for if you're a masochist because that's the worst shot type you could possibly use for Koishi as you really just can't position your options on her ever, and you can't stop shooting during her survivals or DEATH. It might make the last phase of Philosophy easier, though.

EDIT:Oh right, the heart cards. I meant to talk about those, not shot types *facedesk* The second one is supposedly easier because it's less dense, but it's really still a more difficult card...

[Zengeku]

SA Extra gives you a maximum of 7 lives. However, if you die a lot (causing you to miss the fragments), then you'll notice you'll run out of lives quickly.

So the death penalty for SA Extra is 1 1/5th life, plus any bombs you had left. Pretty brutal.

Just like with story mode, its not really that much of a problem. You need to die at 5 individual attacks in order to miss out on one extra life. The only way to get less than 6 lives for an SA Extra run is to game over.

[Alice★f]

Just like with story mode, its not really that much of a problem. You need to die at 5 individual attacks in order to miss out on one extra life. The only way to get less than 6 lives for an SA Extra run is to game over.

Of course, it's not a huge loss compared to the other games.

But six lives? That's assuming you actually get to the end of the stage. Also, for the first timer: Right after Rorshach, run up to PoC to get the fragment, OH SHI- *pichun*

Not that bad, though. The extend system works very well.

[MTSranger]

After 1cc SA and unlocking stage 6 practice, I capped 4/5 of utsuho's spells in 3 tries.
No wonder people say stage 6 is easier than 5. In the 1cc run, it was like NUKES AHHHHH *bomb spam* though

A few more runs still made me stuck on the SECOND spell for Koishi 0/0 and clipping randomly.
Since you don't get most extra lives at once (unlike other extras),
you are kind of stuck in one spell (which are not particularly easy or anything) for a while until you figure it out.
Die 3 times early on? Restart and do the whole stage again.

Even Nue suffers less from this problem cuz she has some easy spells and so it's possible to get far entering 2/0
With 3/1 to start, I capped a few cards and bombed my way to the survival.

[Formless God]

The only way to get less than 6 lives for an SA Extra run is to game over.

Uh ... the only time I got all 6 lives was when I no-miss'd the entire stage ? :/

[IBakaChan]

That's because Easy Mountain of Faith is harder than Normal Mountain of Faith.

In a nutshell, it's like Lunatic VoWG, only 10x slower and half the bullets, but still has 'solid' walls that ZUN shouldn't expect Easy mode players to clear easily.

what.