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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #300 on: May 23, 2010, 07:57:58 PM »
I don't suppose you saved a replay?

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8831

So new but not pressing plans are to finish with only a border break against the stage six spam and maybe Lunasa's second noncard.  If choosing to activate the border immediately or shortly after the nonspell begins you can break through the purple waves during the invulnerability phase, but it wouldn't be impressive at all.  Other changes to be made include ignoring Youmu's opener loophole and possibly grazewhoring various spells.

Minor complaint about screwing up before Lily White and losing point items.  Didn't destroy three of the four red shotgun fairies in stage four.  Poor form in stage two by letting items slip.  Poor positioning for the last second-last wave of Components of Konpaku.  Two unacceptable dodges for 80% Reflowering.  No point complaining any further.   

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #301 on: May 23, 2010, 07:58:17 PM »
You know this game is too easy when you're hard-pressed to find highlights in a pseudo-perfect run.

Border break against Lunasa's second noncard and the stage six spam.  Then a few more against 80% Reflowering because I wimped out and blasted it down after the fourth wave.  The dodging up to that point was poor to begin with.
What the flying shrine maiden fuck? I'd wager that your definition of "poor" dodging differs from almost everyone else's.

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #302 on: May 23, 2010, 09:11:29 PM »
I'd wager that your definition of "poor" dodging differs from almost everyone else's.

Sorry, poor wording.  I meant the dodging at the start of 80% Reflowering up to the border activation was poor.

This didn't warrant such a post but saying "this game is too easy" sounds really conceited so I'll back up my opinion.  Which was supposed to go into the debate thread but I didn't want to bother creating the list of micromemorizable and fixed patterns.  They'll eventually come up for Safespots/Strategies.

As a whole (for the main game)...

  • Faster bullets are almost nonexistent.  There is little reason to work with reflex-based attacks to perform well.
  • Too many micromemorizable attacks and fixed patterns.
  • Does not use the bomb-power system.
  • Most generous extend system out of all the Windows games not using the bomb-power system.
  • Bombs hurt.
  • Cherry and border system further cut down on the difficulty.  Not to mention breaking a border converts all bullets onscreen and makes the next one come about even sooner.

Attacks come in segments.

Okay, this applies to all the games but a lot of the harder attacks dance around before coming down on you.  Anytime the bullets are cancelled out will result in a too large grace period during which you're free to blast away at the boss.  Large Pentagram Crest, Benevolent Orl?ans Dolls, Hell God Sword, and that's not getting into the easier attacks.

It's not uncommon to see people comparing the Hard difficulty of the later games to Lunatic difficulty with a game like this.  I think their viewpoints aren't unfounded, but I'm equally biased.

This post didn't turn out like I wanted it to.  Sorry.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2010, 09:17:10 PM by Heartbeam »

Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #303 on: May 23, 2010, 10:45:03 PM »
Had a Lunatic Byakuren run where I captured her first three spells and Superhuman as well.

No replay because LFS was a disaster. As soon as the red phase happens I just lose my cool and ram something. Knowing the hitboxes are microscopic doesn't make me feel any better.
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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #304 on: May 24, 2010, 12:42:06 AM »
Made it to Buddhist Diamond my first try on Lunatic with Reimu solo.

I would need to practice a lot on Stage 3 and 4 to stand a chance though. But this might not be as bad as I thought.  It seems the only solos I will not be able to eventually 1cc on Lunatic will be Sakuya and Alice. I've made it to Kaguya on all of them except those 2 and Marisa, and I'm sure Marisa will be doable for me eventually.

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #306 on: May 24, 2010, 08:18:50 AM »
You know this game is too easy when you're hard-pressed to find highlights in a pseudo-perfect run.



I always knew you were maxi awesome at PCB but...

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #307 on: May 24, 2010, 04:30:49 PM »
I captured Hourai Jewel Lunatic yesterday BV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffOGv1bC_VU

History of 1/94, is it considered good ? :V

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #308 on: May 24, 2010, 04:55:42 PM »
CtC Scenario D part 2 is up.

Also here's the Phantasm Romance 1cc after having dealt with the most retarded error Youtube has ever given me:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5

Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #309 on: May 24, 2010, 05:20:59 PM »
Marisa solo 1cc. Ended with 2 spare lives and no bombs. I am disappointed that I didn't break the 2 billion mark with her though.

Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #310 on: May 24, 2010, 05:40:52 PM »
I captured Hourai Jewel Lunatic yesterday BV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffOGv1bC_VU

History of 1/94, is it considered good ? :V

2/15 here.

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #311 on: May 24, 2010, 05:41:58 PM »

Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #312 on: May 24, 2010, 05:45:18 PM »
But Hard mode's turn around times are very lenient. Took a while for me, but that was because I was originally trying to 1cc Lunatic with Netherworld team, so I was trying to practice with them. Came much quicker when trying Border Team.

I'm somewhat consistent now if using border team. I captured it 5 consecutive times in stage, then when I did my Yukari solo 1cc, I captured it there too. I still fail it everytime with anyone else that's not border team, Reimu included due to her being weak.

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #313 on: May 24, 2010, 08:07:56 PM »
SA Lunatic Stage 4 with zero bombs/deaths! Thank Kanako it's all downhill after stage 5. Satori's first two recollection cards can be nasty, but otherwise this is pretty straightforward once the stage is learnt.

Edit: Oh hey stage 3. The post-midboss lasers were annoying. Tried stage 6 a bit but I need sleep first.
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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #314 on: May 24, 2010, 08:51:35 PM »
I gave up on Hard

As in, you didn't capture the hard version? That thing is lol easy. I wouldn't think of the Lunatic version as easy but i still don't need micromemorization. Both of my captures was more reading that it was micromem.

Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #315 on: May 24, 2010, 09:00:49 PM »
Just got another Lunatic Hourai Jewel capture, in yet another 1cc. Remilia solo this time.

Only Youmu, Yuyuko, and maybe Reimu left because I'm not enough of a masochist to try Alice or Sakuya, even with 7 lives. A score.dat with Lunatic FinalB unlocked for everyone would be nice, but there's no way I'll be able to do it.

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #316 on: May 24, 2010, 10:11:04 PM »
And now I capture Hourai Elixir Lunatic (1/31)  :toot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w-d8bFAsQc

Easier than Hourai Jewel, for sure.

Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #317 on: May 25, 2010, 05:36:56 AM »
I just cleared PCB extra after oh so many attempts at it and it feels good

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #318 on: May 25, 2010, 06:15:31 AM »
So much failure and win today.

Subterranean Animism:

Normal: No Deaths 1cc Marisa A, B, C, Reimu A, B, C,
Hard: Perfect Stage 1, Stage 2 / No Deaths: Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 4

Hard: Stage 1 end with 1500 graze and 3.75 power. It's very high, and although it's stage 1, a good start means for an interesting replay. It's about flashy playing and not just dodging the bullets.

Lunatic: Perfect Stage 1, Stage 2. Consistency capture all of Yuugi's cards except....
No Deaths: Stage 1, Stage 2, 1D Stage 3

Extra: Reach Sanae with 1000 graze. Capture 2/3 Sanae's cards at least 100 times. Become consistent at Superego, Rorschach, Release of the ID, Ancestors, Paranoia, Polygraph, Embers of Love.

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PCB Extra: Hit the 800 point extend. Clear with Sakuya A
IN Extra: [Scratch it, I died twice WTF] AT least I'm now consistent...
Phantasm: Derped at least 100 times.

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Now for failures:

Die at least 20 times to Kisume's spell card.
Never capture Mt. Ooe
Always clip Stage 4's opener (Hard/Lunatic)

Safepot BoWaP
Bomb all of midboss Orin (Hard/Lunatic)

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Current Goal: 1cc SA Hard / Extra Clear w/ Reimu A
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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #319 on: May 25, 2010, 06:56:49 AM »
Fairly consistent in capping Terukuni lol

also nearly got to source of rains etc etc

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #320 on: May 25, 2010, 08:45:43 AM »
Lotus Land Story Normal 1cc (Reimu A)

That makes two Normal clears, and marks a definite improvement in my playing.

Really should've been 8 deaths. I misjudged S5 Yuka's final attack and died right at her explosion. :derp:

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #321 on: May 25, 2010, 10:39:47 AM »

Add that with this and you get me breaking 70mil. Yay?

Replay itself is only somewhat noteworthy. Since gensokyo.org is down for database-related reasons, I've attached it to this post.

EDIT: Oh, it's back up. Huh. Re-uploading.
EDIT 2: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8852
EDIT 3: The general process only goes so far. I guess I'm missing something again?
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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #322 on: May 25, 2010, 11:00:22 AM »
History of 1/94, is it considered good ? :V
Good enough. Took me 384 attempts to capture it the first time, so. :V
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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #324 on: May 25, 2010, 12:55:38 PM »
Reimu solo Lunatic 1cc

Arrived at Hourai Jewel 1/0, so I knew I had it then since I'm decent enough at the card. Pull off the necessary timeout NDNB anyway.

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #325 on: May 25, 2010, 02:01:06 PM »

Attempt to break 3 million: y/y
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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #326 on: May 25, 2010, 02:21:57 PM »

Attempt to break 3 million: y/y
I think your camera's flash is broken.

Spoiler:
71.7 million?! Shiiit.

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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #327 on: May 25, 2010, 09:05:08 PM »
Yeeesssssss, MoF Lunatic 1cc! Stupid VoWG left me with 0 extra lives and 0.20 power, but I WON YAY.

Sanae's midboss card is so cluttered, I always worry I'll clip but I almost never do. *sweatdrop* I captured that, everything in S1, Aya/Kanako's first card, and... everything else I was bombing to feel safe or because I can't do them often enough.

Well, that leaves PC-98 Lunatics (other then LLS which was my first Lunatic 1cc <3), EoSD(Been insanely close for months), SA(...maybe), and UFO(Hell no)! Erm, and IaMP, which may or may not ever happen. I cleared all of those things on Hard, at least, except HRtP, which I like playing but can't 1cc. Reached Sariel with no continues, at least...
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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #328 on: May 26, 2010, 12:42:15 AM »
I think your camera's flash is broken.
The camera's flash broke since doing 8-2 and getting 660k.

That said, 2.9mil! Terrible 3rd and 4th Shots, by the way.

EDIT: I see a Formless God replay. Thanks for contributing!
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Re: Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)
« Reply #329 on: May 26, 2010, 02:21:30 AM »
Finally, after putting DS away for like a month, I finished the giant roadblock that is Level 10. Now to start Level 11!