Touhou doujins outnumber all others in Japan

[Menorah Jams, Pham]

No, seriously! 

http://www.japanator.com/touhou-is-way-too-popular-on-the-doujinshi-scene-14537.phtml

Some fun facts from these statistics:

-There are more Touhou h-doujins than the next three titles COMBINED.  (And that's Vocaloid, Idolm@ster, and Nanoha put together - not even the trifecta of REALLY underage girls, virtual idoru, and virtual idoru girlfriends!)
-The only series with less h-doujins is Maria-sama ga Miteru (What is it about yuri that lowers the porn percentage?)

Any other statistical geniuses wanna play around with those figures?  I know I wanna play around with their figures, if you know what I mean.

[Bias Bus]

I'm not all that surprised given the IMMENSE popularity of Touhou, but I didn't know said popularity was that large. I suppose it comes from the small amount of 'canon' material that (pardon my usuage of words) "restricts" artists from other ideas and plotlines they wanted to use. I'll admit, as an artist and writer, it IS fun to fuck around with the Touhou scene, more so when you include h-matieral and fetishes. Hell, half of the Touhous themselves are a good source of fetish fuel in their own right.

I'm not a statistical genius, so I'm pretty much limited to opinions, sarcasm and shoddy referances no one will ever get.

(What is it about yuri that lowers the porn percentage?)

It's really ironic how you include that, and half of the Touhou doujins ARE in fact yuri.

[Merp]

You mean lovely futas  :V

<Tengukami> No.

[Tengukami]

Tasukete, Eirin!

[Bias Bus]

You mean lovely futas  :V

Yeah, whatever. They're still all the same to me.

Old and overdone.

[Grand Octopus]

Do these retailers maintain any sort of standards when accepting doujins for retail? I'm just curious about how many of those 5030 Touhou doujins are essentially unmarketable garbage.

Also, I just realised I either dislike or know nothing about every other series mentioned in that article. Except for Marimite I guess.

[Alfred F. Jones]

You'd think with all those doujins, we'd get some freakin' awesome battle scenes, but noooooooo....

Bah, someone wake me up when Himura Kiseki starts doing Touhou doujins with battle scenes in the style of SwordDancers or Nanoha BetrayerS.

[Ghaleon]

Given the fact I don't watch anime or read manga, I approve of these statistics.

But hold on, Yuri isn't considered erotic material? I thought Yuri was basically girl on girl porn.

[E-Nazrin]

Given the fact I don't watch anime or read manga, I approve of these statistics.

But hold on, Yuri isn't considered erotic material? I thought Yuri was basically girl on girl porn.

I think it's being used as what would be technically more accurate as 'shoujo-ai' - works including romantic and/or sexual relationships between two women. It's a less clumsy term in English, and the distinction blurs a little sometimes.

Regardless: Wow. That's pretty much all I can say to that.

[orinrin]

I can't tell if this is good or bad.

[Tengukami]

I can't tell if this is good or bad.

If it's bad, then I don't wanna be good!

_, ,_ ∩
(　ﾟ∀ﾟ)彡　えーりん！えーりん！
　　⊂彡

[jigglyppuff8]

Related somewhat. Arrange works from Key don't even compare.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

(What is it about yuri that lowers the porn percentage?)

Easy: the amount of porn produced by the fans is inversely proportional to the amount of "naughtiness" present in canon (and then multiplied by the popularity to begin with, of course). If you play your cards and creativity right, a fully-clothed romance with barely any kissing (um, I admit that I'm not actually familiar with Marimite) can be more "enticing" than full-on hardcore pornography. In short, the fans don't need to produce their own stuff, because it's already there.

(Contrast Touhou, in which everything is vague, and there's no fanservice or sexualization whatsoever, and the characters' underwear consists of poofy bloomers, which are just about as sexy as frilly cargo shorts.)

[Tengukami]

poofy bloomers, which are just about as sexy as frilly cargo shorts.

Speak for yourself!

*fires up Kiki's Delivery Service again*

[Suikama]

Two words

Dark Tewi

[Naut]

I'd say the reason Marimite has little h material is because it's is just a higher class show for higher class citizens *sips tea with pinky raised*

Speak for yourself!

*fires up Kiki's Delivery Service again*

This man knows where it's at!

[orinrin]

I'd say the reason Marimite has little h material is because it's is just a higher class show for higher class citizens *sips tea with pinky raised*

You forgot your monocle.

[Chaore]

I...holy freaking crap.

That is somewhere near half of -everything-. This is pretty damn astonishing.

Shoddy view of the entire industry though, given you know, its one damn source. Really I'd be entirely unsurprised if it's relative to that one company, and someone did the work just to achieve this response.

Still damn impressive though.

[Bias Bus]

Two words

Dark Tewi

Mmm, I'd pay for a an h-doujin with her in it.

[dustyjo]

All these doujins yet I still can't find any Ranlove ones.

[Tengukami]

Guess you need to write/draw one.

[Suikama]

I wonder what's the ratio of Touhou doujin music compared to others :smug:

[orinrin]

I wonder what's the ratio of Touhou doujin music compared to others :smug:

:ohdear:


The gap between Touhou and non-Touhou music would probably be larger than all of Yukari's gaps put together.

[Furienify]

I can't say I read much Touhou doujin. I usually run into a wall of h-doujins while searching, or find stuff filled with painfully shoehorned fan service. Not much of actual literary merit.

[orinrin]

There are quite a few quality doujins out there AFAIK.

[Furienify]

I did read some weird doujin about all the girls getting into some sort of gunfight with one another. Mokou's team vs. Kaguya's. Unexpectedly, I found it extremely amusing.

[orinrin]

I did read some weird doujin about all the girls getting into some sort of gunfight with one another. Mokou's team vs. Kaguya's. Unexpectedly, I found it extremely amusing.

That's the one with the Cirno Shotgun right?

[N-Forza]

quality doujin maker posting itt

Toranoana is a pretty big doujinshi dealer, so I'd say this is a fairly accurate representation of the current scene. Another big doujinshi store, Melonbooks, also has a ton of Touhou stuff on sale.

However, the one deal that might be skewing the numbers is that I'm not sure what Toranoana's criteria for acceptance is. Maybe Touhou doujinshi authors are just more willing to put up their stuff in stores.

Also, the original thread wasn't titled "waste of resources" (although I could consider Nanoha doujinshi more of a waste of resources), the intending meaning was closer to "a bad influence on how resources are spent", but it's not as catchy, admittedly.

[Gpop]

I did read some weird doujin about all the girls getting into some sort of gunfight with one another. Mokou's team vs. Kaguya's. Unexpectedly, I found it extremely amusing.

That one was epic. Goddamn yes.

[♛ Apher-Forte]

My idea: Touhou is a Supernova.

Its width of products will expand and expand and soon enough beyond it be damned by its own popularity. Just like a Supernova, it won't be soon before long it will be silenced to nothing, fed upon by its own popularity until nothing is left and boom, oh hey, no one draws Touhou anymore~

It is not that I don't like Touhou doujins, heck, I have more of them than I do of miscellaneous others, even the strange fetish ones that probably no one likes to read other than the niche few (Breast enlargement anyone? NO? I figured so). The doujin market is described as best like any other bubble market, it grows susbstantially because of the supply and demand curve marking a heightened sales level and status, giving it its 'premiere' level of widespread influence, making anyone in the market of anime and manga move over and check it out. In the event they find something they like and they see that they are not the only ones, the buy becomes buy more.

The same with the building boom in Dubai that crashed recently not so long ago. Investments (think of this as the doujin producers) were into the building of so many new infrastructures, facilities, business buildings and expensive villas that nobody thought twice of how good it will go bad at the end (the higher they go, harder they fall). Doujin without general interest spawns nothing, but because of the fanbase it expanded exponentially.

In due time, when markets go bad for Dubai, investors are indebted to banks, and now relies on Abu Dhabi to bail them out. Think of when the doujin market will suffer the bubble burst, and when it does, the interest will just die, and those that came late to the doujin drawan market and cannot divert their artistic license to anywhere else, it be sad to see them go, but yes, they will be dead too. Only loyal fans may live on a franchise, but those that contribute to the bubble boom will die along with the bubble burst.

/economic analysis