STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees

[lmagus]

I bought the Platinum hits.

It comes with DS, DS 1.1 and DS MBL

MBL 1.1 cots some points, but you can only buy with a japanese account.

When I log into my japanese account, it shows me a list full of stuff to buy, since i don't know which one is which, i won't buy it for now.

The american release of the game comes with all the same stuff that the Platinum Version does.

[Aisha]

Ah that's good to know. I'm probably going to wait and see if the localized version of Deathsmiles is compatible with Japanese 360s; last time I checked, Aksys said that it would be compatible with Asian 360s, but I'm not totally sure if that includes Japanese ones. It would be nice not to have to buy additional things from the marketplace, since Futari Black Label is also going to cost a bit.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

1.1 is on the disc

MBL is 1200 points

MBL 1.1 is I think 240 or 280. You need MBL first though, IIRC. At least I think it was said you need it first.

[lmagus]

Mine already came with MBL, so does the American version.

[Sapz]

Finally got the DDP run uploaded. Part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5. Man, that 2-3 boss fight was such a fluke. :V

[lmagus]

AISHA

That DOJ Arrange Soundtrack is the coolest thing I've ever heard!

They remade Stage4 tune into progressive metal, it's my favorite in the CD, Stage5 is awesome metal, Last boss is fucking fantastic, Hibachi's music is brutal, more than NO REMORSE.

5pb did a really good job with this soundtrack.


Sapz: Gonna go for the 2-ALL? =P

[Sapz]

AISHA

That DOJ Arrange Soundtrack is the coolest thing I've ever heard!

They remade Stage4 tune into progressive metal, it's my favorite in the CD, Stage5 is awesome metal, Last boss is fucking fantastic, Hibachi's music is brutal, more than NO REMORSE.

5pb did a really good job with this soundtrack.


Sapz: Gonna go for the 2-ALL? =P

That is indeed a damn cool soundtrack. Listen to the Ketsui one too, there's a metal version of Evac DOOM's theme and it's pretty awesome.

As for the 2-ALL... I hope so, but it's going to take a while yet. Got to actually get to Hibachi first. :P Must work on the second loop, so next thing on the list to do is perfect 2-3.

[Azinth]

After spending more time with Dangun Feveron, I have come to the startling sudden realization that this game is Fucking Awesome.  I want to learn how to play it properly now. :V

I'm still trying to learn how to do consistently well on the first four stages.  Stage 3 is almost done(I have a strategy for the boss that makes everything easy except the last few seconds), stage 4 is a giant douche.  I have no idea how you're supposed to get through the second half with your lives and chain intact.

And congrats to Sapz for his breakthrough.  Good luck chaining the first loop and surviving the second, you're gonna need it. ; )

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Tried more DDP. I just don't see how many of these attacks can even qualify as fair.

I may have to savestate my way to Hibachi because the other Hibachi savestates I've tried haven't loaded, and Hibachi seems like the only fun thing in the game. How many savestates does MAME allow?

[Azinth]

Tried more DDP. I just don't see how many of these attacks can even qualify as fair.

Read guides, watch replays, U-shaped streaming, etc.

I may have to savestate my way to Hibachi because the other Hibachi savestates I've tried haven't loaded, and Hibachi seems like the only fun thing in the game. How many savestates does MAME allow?

All of your letter and number keys, for each individual game.  For all my games I have the ship-selection screen mapped to 'Q.'  That's how I roll.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Which ship is the best anyway?

[Sapz]

After spending more time with Dangun Feveron, I have come to the startling sudden realization that this game is Fucking Awesome.  I want to learn how to play it properly now. :V

I'm still trying to learn how to do consistently well on the first four stages.  Stage 3 is almost done(I have a strategy for the boss that makes everything easy except the last few seconds), stage 4 is a giant douche.  I have no idea how you're supposed to get through the second half with your lives and chain intact.

Hell yes, Feveron is kickass. No idea about the chaining, though, haven't practiced that stage enough.

And congrats to Sapz for his breakthrough.  Good luck chaining the first loop and surviving the second, you're gonna need it. ; )

Thanks, and yeah. I've been working on survival in practice and managed to get quite a few ND runs on 2-3 and 2-4, and close to that on 2-5. 2-6, though... yeah not quite. :V That stage is just beyond me at the minute, I think. It's so damn brutal, and every attack from the boss minus maybe the first is pretty much an autobomb for me.

Tried more DDP. I just don't see how many of these attacks can even qualify as fair.

Which attacks are you having trouble with, specifically? There are consistent ways of dealing with pretty much everything in the game, so I don't think there's anything unfair going on. :V Also, what Azinth said.

Which ship is the best anyway?

There isn't one, they're pretty well balanced. C-S and A-L are the most popular, though LtC's had a lot of success with C-L.

[Zengar Zombolt]

Well, for me, I think stages are better met with C-S.

[Azinth]

If you just want a bombspamb 1cc and/or easy loop access, C-S is by far the best.  If you are a REAL MAN want to score well, go with A-L

[Aisha]

Poor green helicopter.

[Bananamatic]

Poor green helicopter.

I entered my highscore with B-L

it sucked though

I really want to use B-L. But the laser has slower activation time compared to A-L...atleast it feels that way.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Currently working on unlocking stage practice.

Have savestates at

1-1 boss, not that it's needed.
1-2 beginning
1-2 boss
1-3 beginning
1-3 bullet cancel
1-3 Secret Extend part
1-3 Boss
1-4 Beginning

Rank went up a crapload because I've been reloading if I die or use a bomb. Haven't figured out Stage 4 yet. Stage 3 is just tough.

[Erppo]

Hi all! Thought I'd finally register after lurking here for some time. After all, I have picked up pretty much all my non-Touhou shmup recommendations from this thread.

To prove my worth i present you a Guwange 1cc: http://www.mediafire.com/?1njytjtzo0m (recorded with Mame 0.99 lagless). I find it somewhat funny that I was able to do this before Azinth and his crazy 19M scores. Score is really crappy, I barely break 5M, but in terms of raw survival I'm pretty proud of this run (2 deaths on stage 6 are intentional to get more bombs). I still do really really badly in the final attack but at least I had enough life to spare.

I think I really need to learn how to score in this game. I just did a run where I kept my chain going through the stage 2 boss for the first time ever but managed to lose it stupidly at the start of the next stage.

[Sapz]

Welcome aboard, Erppo, and congrats on the 1cc, that's pretty impressive! :]

[Azinth]

Hi all! Thought I'd finally register after lurking here for some time. After all, I have picked up pretty much all my non-Touhou shmup recommendations from this thread.

To prove my worth i present you a Guwange 1cc: http://www.mediafire.com/?1njytjtzo0m (recorded with Mame 0.99 lagless). I find it somewhat funny that I was able to do this before Azinth and his crazy 19M scores. Score is really crappy, I barely break 5M, but in terms of raw survival I'm pretty proud of this run (2 deaths on stage 6 are intentional to get more bombs). I still do really really badly in the final attack but at least I had enough life to spare.

I think I really need to learn how to score in this game. I just did a run where I kept my chain going through the stage 2 boss for the first time ever but managed to lose it stupidly at the start of the next stage.

It took me so long because I learned how to survive and chain simultaneously, which is a HORRIBLE IDEA DON'T EVER DO IT OMG.  Anyway, welcome.  Awesome to see a fellow Guwange player here.  If you ever have any questions about scoring, feel free to ask.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

After about an hour of reloading every time I died, I managed to get through Stage 4. I had to use a savestate near the middle of the level though, but that was nowhere near as bad as level 3 was.Still haven't met any of the loop requirements practice runs as I can't chain worth crap, and I don't know the bee locations. But since I'm reloading after deaths, I should be able to savestate into the second loop via 2 or fewer deaths depending on how stages 5 and 6 are.

Also, kind of wish there was a Death Label like mode, because the boss fights are great. hate the stages though.

[Matsuri]

Hi all! Thought I'd finally register after lurking here for some time. After all, I have picked up pretty much all my non-Touhou shmup recommendations from this thread.

To prove my worth i present you a Guwange 1cc: http://www.mediafire.com/?1njytjtzo0m (recorded with Mame 0.99 lagless). I find it somewhat funny that I was able to do this before Azinth and his crazy 19M scores. Score is really crappy, I barely break 5M, but in terms of raw survival I'm pretty proud of this run (2 deaths on stage 6 are intentional to get more bombs). I still do really really badly in the final attack but at least I had enough life to spare.

I think I really need to learn how to score in this game. I just did a run where I kept my chain going through the stage 2 boss for the first time ever but managed to lose it stupidly at the start of the next stage.

Hey there! Always nice to see a fellow arcade shmup fan around these parts. Stick around, we have weekly contests. Well, not right now, but once I'm out for the semester we'll resume again!

[Erppo]

It took me so long because I learned how to survive and chain simultaneously, which is a HORRIBLE IDEA DON'T EVER DO IT OMG.  Anyway, welcome.  Awesome to see a fellow Guwange player here.  If you ever have any questions about scoring, feel free to ask.

Yeah I will. I already watched that full chain replay you posted and picked up some strategies from it. Just tried some chaining with savestates and it seems I could theoretically do the first 3 stages but stage 4 is really horrible.

I'm afraid that serious scoring attempts could make me hate this game. The reason I originally chose to 1cc it was the way it's really forgiving in survival. It forgives all your early game screwups by giving full lives right before the final and the lifebar system lets you take a warning hit before you die with bombs in stock. However, game long chaining is pretty much the most unforgiving thing I can think of.

[Bananamatic]

Why do I find Guwange so much harder than other caves even though you take multiple hits to die?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Stage 4, Stage 5, Stage 6. Bosses are mostly fair.

Haven't managed to savestate myself to Stage 6 boss yet, though I could bombspam my way to the second loop with the savestate I have now. But that would screw up the rank and then the practice savestates wouldn't be as useful.

[Aisha]

Guwange is hard for me because I can never get a hang of the familiar controls, which leads me to forgetting my character's position whenever I dick around with the familiar.

[Bananamatic]

Guwange is hard for me because I can never get a hang of the familiar controls, which leads me to forgetting my character's position whenever I dick around with the familiar.

Less of a shmup, more of a cancel-em-up

[Sapz]

I was pretty bored while the forums were down, so I spent some time messing about with DDP some more.

So uh here's a 1 death Hibachi :V

[Aisha]

What. The forums were down?

DoDonPachi II has an awesome soundtrack. Reminds me of Thunderforce for some reason. Too bad the game has never been emulated.

I love the boss names

BOSS BEE
PATROL BEE
HEX COMB
CRAZY BEE
ARMED BEE
MATRIX BEE
SECRET BEE

[Matsuri]

Yeah. New stuff got implemented.

I still wanna try DDP II, regardless of all of its bad reviews.