Author Topic: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees  (Read 123577 times)

Bananamatic

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #840 on: April 27, 2010, 05:21:40 PM »
lol donpachi

st1-3 should be cut from the game
st4-5 are way too fucking long

way too many tackle deaths
the chaining doesn't fucking work

Matsuri

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #841 on: April 27, 2010, 05:25:18 PM »
DoDonPachi-style chaining sucks no matter what game you do it in. :/


Bananamatic

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #843 on: April 27, 2010, 06:03:38 PM »
^
yeah chaining does suck

but the chains in DP break so fast you can't chain at all

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #844 on: April 27, 2010, 06:14:54 PM »
whaddaya mean, chaining is awesome

i always love watching people who think they like ddp try to play it for score and then start crying like little bitches

it's fun times

Bananamatic

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #845 on: April 27, 2010, 06:17:48 PM »
whaddaya mean, chaining is awesome

i always love watching people who think they like ddp try to play it for score and then start crying like little bitches

it's fun times
I like DDP but cave scoring is shit

Matsuri

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #846 on: April 27, 2010, 06:28:23 PM »
whaddaya mean, chaining is awesome

i always love watching people who think they like ddp try to play it for score and then start crying like little bitches

it's fun times

no no

I don't mind Mushi chaining or Guwange's stage long, game long chains. I just don't like DoDonPachi chaining. :<

Bananamatic

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #847 on: April 27, 2010, 06:30:01 PM »
no no

I don't mind Mushi chaining or Guwange's stage long, game long chains. I just don't like DoDonPachi chaining. :<
What's Mushi scoring like?

also, fucking game long chains

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #848 on: April 27, 2010, 06:37:36 PM »
Mushi arrange chaining for PS2 is fun.

Mushi Maniac is too hard.

I LOVE DOJ but I'll never play it for score. The chaining sucks on it.
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #849 on: April 27, 2010, 06:47:03 PM »
What's Mushi scoring like?

also, fucking game long chains

Mushi Original: Kill stuff. Collect shit. Don't die.
Mushi Maniac: Make sure you have lasers on enemies at all times, or else your multiplier will go down. Also involves various tapping methods.
Mushi ULTRA: Like Maniac, only much harder.
Mushi Arrange: Like Maniac, only you get 6 options from the start, and you can change shot types at any time. Also includes an easier version of the ULTRA TLB.

Mushi Futari Original: Kill stuff. Collect shit. Stay up as high on the screen as you can for best results. Change shot types when the counter changes color.
Mushi Futari Maniac: Get counter up to x9999 by timing your shots with your counter. Wait for lots of bullets. Stop shooting so chaining bar will blank, then use your focus shot to turn bullets into point items. Basically, bank the counter, then cash in points.
Mushi Futari ULTRA: Like Original, but insanely hard.
Mushi Futari Arrange: Reflect bullets. Fill both characters' counters. Go into FEVER mode and score lots and lots.
Mushi Futari Black Label Original: Like ver. 1.5 Original, only has the potential to get faster. You have a stronger shot type than Original, though . Includes a sound that tells you to change shot types instead of watching for a color change.
Mushi Futari Black Label Maniac: Like ver. 1.5 Maniac, but it's easier to bank and easier to cash in due to more powerful shots.
Mushi Futari Black Label God Mode: Like ver. 1.5 ULTRA, only shit dies faster, and plays like Maniac instead of Original. Bank counter up to x30000, cash in for major points. Includes an easier TLB, but much harder requirements.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #850 on: April 27, 2010, 07:28:20 PM »
Pssh, crazy people. Chaining is tons of fun until you die at 300 hits during Stage 2 at which point it becomes terrible until the next time you play. I haven't memorized stages 3-6 in terms of chaining (though I should really look into 3 and 4), but it's fun enough to try and improvise and make some 100+ hit chains on the fly. :V

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #851 on: April 27, 2010, 07:42:40 PM »
fucking max bomb multiplier

only a spaz could enjoy it

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #852 on: April 27, 2010, 07:46:13 PM »
Chaining in Dai Fukkatsu is probably pretty awesome.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #853 on: April 27, 2010, 08:06:46 PM »
IIRC, the chain goes down rather than resetting completely in DFK, so it should be a lot more accessible than the crazy stuff you have to do in DP/DDP to get a decent chain going.

Goddamnit Cave hurry up and port it ;_;

Just had a few practice runs, seems chaining in Stage 4 will require quite a lot of work. I can get 120~ hit chains in a couple of seperate places, but I'm not really sure how to string them together. Getting the hang of Stage 3's bullet cancelling nicely, though. Apparently with my currect tactics I'll be at about 40-42m by the start of Stage 5, so maybe I should start playing some more and go for that 60m.

fucking max bomb multiplier

only a spaz could enjoy it
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Bananamatic

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #854 on: April 27, 2010, 08:13:13 PM »
actually it's pretty fun to chain in DDP, but playing for score isn't

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #855 on: April 27, 2010, 08:43:26 PM »
Can't we all just agree that Gunbird 2 has the best chaining ever

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #856 on: April 27, 2010, 08:59:17 PM »
So I carried on that 'what would my score be if everything goes as planned' run (savestated at the beginning of each stage, restarting when something goes wrong, not relying on anything that happens once in a blue moon). Turns out I'd have a little over 67m by the end of Stage 5. That's about 12m more than my current high score at stage 2-3.

...

okay I should play some more proper runs I think
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #857 on: April 28, 2010, 03:31:37 AM »
I honestly don't know if I should feel happy or royally pissed off at this.



Yes, I finally 1cced it.  But I didn't beat my high score.  Final bonus was 19.6M.  I realized right after looking at the scoreboard that if I had suicided that one sliver of healhbar away so I'd had two bombs in stock, the end-game bonus would've pushed me into 20M.  Fuck.  To be honest, aside from the quite excellent final boss fight, my playing throughout this run was kinda shit.   This game's generous extends are the only reason I pulled through.

Oh well, nevertheless, Guwange 1cc.  I still want that 20M though.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 03:33:08 AM by Azinth »

Matsuri

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #858 on: April 28, 2010, 03:42:32 AM »
Awesome. Congrats, man.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #859 on: April 28, 2010, 06:47:01 AM »


God, I love Arrange Mode lv.99*99.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #860 on: April 28, 2010, 06:50:31 AM »
Oh yeah that's perfectly dodgeable alright. :V

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #861 on: April 28, 2010, 06:57:37 AM »
I can see the background, there are too many safespots.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #862 on: April 28, 2010, 02:51:17 PM »
...ohholychrist. I'd been practicing a lot with savestates, but I didn't know I'd improved that much.

1 miss first loop (silly death with full bombs). No miss Stages 1-1 to 1-4, 1-6, 2-1 and 2-2. Game over on the boss of Stage 2-5.

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Bananamatic

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #863 on: April 28, 2010, 04:08:48 PM »
hurr durr dodonpachi

full chain up to first midboss, decent chains...
...game over at st4 boss.

Rank: Very Hard.

thought that it resets itself after startup

EDIT: even better
back to normal, reached 20m st4 on a bad run
walled by the green ships on st3(don't ask), but perfected st4 boss and got x4 multiplier on st5

entered st6 with 3 lives, died 3 times and bombed only once

still got the same score as my record, 31m

if I could perfect st3 and st4, I could probably get 40m without any real chaining involved
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 04:35:46 PM by Bananamatic »

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #864 on: April 28, 2010, 08:05:05 PM »
w00t, DDP highscore brutally beaten. Completely choked at the st 4 and 5 bosses though. On the bright side, I managed to do so well in the stages that I got my first extend very early (stage two score tally, lol), and managed to bag a second one in stage five. Also found some clever (if retarded and dangerous) ways of dodging the green eagle spam in stage five, and in general pulled some shit I didn't think I could pull off, especially not on keyboard. I'm rather thoroughly satisfied with this progress for now.

I found I play better when I don't fully concentrate...

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #865 on: April 28, 2010, 09:22:16 PM »
Oh god I'm so tired I can't get past the first stage of any shmup I try without dying.

D:
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 09:34:16 PM by Aisha »

lumber_of_the_beast

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #866 on: April 29, 2010, 12:19:38 AM »
w00t, DDP highscore brutally beaten. Completely choked at the st 4 and 5 bosses though. On the bright side, I managed to do so well in the stages that I got my first extend very early (stage two score tally, lol), and managed to bag a second one in stage five. Also found some clever (if retarded and dangerous) ways of dodging the green eagle spam in stage five, and in general pulled some shit I didn't think I could pull off, especially not on keyboard. I'm rather thoroughly satisfied with this progress for now.

I found I play better when I don't fully concentrate...
...DoDonPachi has extends? :ohdear:

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #867 on: April 29, 2010, 01:10:10 AM »
So, I just received Deathsmiles.

My first horizontal game, ever!

It was a lot of fun, but my brain hurts because it's so different from vertical shmups.

And I have no idea what's the difference between DS, DS MLB, DS 1.1, DS MBL 1.1

So far I've played Deathsmiles and Deathsmiles MBL, MBL seems to have one more character but that's the only difference I've noticed =P

Pretty good game anyway, good while I wait for Ketsui to arrive x_x
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #868 on: April 29, 2010, 01:16:54 AM »
It also has a second Extra Stage that Deathsmiles and Deathsmiles 1.1 doesn't have. And some scoring differences. Also the TLB that requires no missing the game up till Tyrannosatan, including both extra stages, on level 999.

Mega Black Label 1.1 has much higher scoring potential and you fight Bloody jitterbug on any run that 1ccs.

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #869 on: April 29, 2010, 01:17:51 AM »
So, I just received Deathsmiles.

My first horizontal game, ever!

It was a lot of fun, but my brain hurts because it's so different from vertical shmups.

And I have no idea what's the difference between DS, DS MLB, DS 1.1, DS MBL 1.1

So far I've played Deathsmiles and Deathsmiles MBL, MBL seems to have one more character but that's the only difference I've noticed =P

Pretty good game anyway, good while I wait for Ketsui to arrive x_x

Did DS 1.1 and MBL 1.1 cost any addition MS points?