STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees

[Naut]

Link?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/romscout-live


He usually streams speedruns, usually SMRPG and SotN. But he plays shmups also. Expect some bad language. He did say he'll go to SMRPG after he's done with Ketsui, so I don't know how much longer.


Edit: Just switched to SMRPG, so I guess Ketsui is over for tonight.

[Bananamatic]

Gigafacer has a timeout phase...which comes rather fast. :V

also reading this shmup website

A mediocre playthrough of DoDonPachi might net you around 40 million points,

In completing the first six stages on one credit, it?s pretty hard to not have a chain over 270 or score more than 50 million points.

I DON'T WANT TO PLAY DODONPACHI FOR SCORE ;_;

EDIT EDIT:

played around with the operator settings on DDP, tried Very Hard

bosses are the same, but the stages are somewhat harder as the streams are much more solid.

Entered st6 with a life and 4 bombs, barely got the second extend(hax dodges with no resources), reached the final boss with 6 bombs and beat him.

1cc first attempt...now I should learn how to score lol

major differences: st5 - even the initial streaming is much more denser, this stage was basically bombspam

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Tried BWR Original again a few tiimes. Kept making too many mistakes so I kept arriving at the final boss with not enough resources to take it down.

[An Odd Sea Slug]

I was just wondering, is there a difference between Dangun Feveron and Fever SOS?

These STG's seem to have a million different versions from what I've seen previously.

Having just played through SOS, I can tell that they're ain't none.

[Azinth]

Eh, perfected Guwange's stage 5 boss at max rank during practice.

I hate this fucker.  Easily my least favorite fight in the game.  Future shmup devs take note:  Random Boss Movement and Random Attack Order do not go well together AT ALL.  Well, they're terrible by themselves too, but that's besides the point.

[Bananamatic]

so Khoa

about Dimahoo

1) I heard how hard Infernon is on max rank...is the rank change really that small? Or does survival also affect rank like in Garegga? Either way, does not being able to collect entire sets trivialize the game? The stages seem pretty damn easy.

2) one part in st5 with 2 rows of stationary battleships which vomit these huge bullets like nothing, instant 2 bomb
is there some exploit to make them not fire? I remember going through them without being against a single bullet.

3) st4 boss - How to do the fire bullet->lasers move? The boss is pretty easy except for that attack...and when I decided to use a fire charge at the beginning, then he used the missiles and killed me. Does using the normal shot disable the missiles before he gets to use them?

4) Infernon - how does the form switch work? the separate ones are easy, then he uses both at once(double bullet spam=bomb) and the ice form doesn't seem too easy either - how to get him to morph into the fire one? and is it any easier than the ice one?

Either way, it definitely doesn't seem all that hard and if I could eliminate the 4 bomb derps early on, I can definitely atleast reach Gigafacer. The first 2 arena bosses are perfect or 1 bomb unless I derp them as well and the ninja can be perfect/1 bomb depending on the attacks.

[Sapz]

Just tried Donpachi for the first time in months, got the hidden extend, 5 death cleared the game. That's one death away from a 1cc, and I died with bombs in stock a load of times.

what

Welp my opinion of it just got a load better time to 1cc this shit

[Aisha]

I'll admit, GIGAFACER is just about the best name for a boss ever.

[Sapz]

Oh, and someone just translated the dialogue from my Dangun TLB video. This is (apparently) what he says:

"I LIKE A "IMO-YOUKAN"
TEA CONFECTIONERY WAS PREPARED WITH MUCH TROUBLE.
FOR YOU WHO INTERFERED WITH THE TEA TIME
I WILL HAVE YOU COMPENSATE FOR THE CRIME WHICH INJURED FEELING.
YOU DO WHAT."

Best pre-fight dialogue ever?

[Azinth]

Why does that remind me so much of typical loading-screen ZUNgrish? :V

TEA CONFECTIONERY WAS PREPARED WITH MUCH TROUBLE.

THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED SERIOUS AFFAIR

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

FOR YOU WHO INTERFERED WITH THE TEA TIME
I WILL HAVE YOU COMPENSATE FOR THE CRIME WHICH INJURED FEELING.

SO YOU DID INTERRUPT THE BOSS'S TEATIME WITH YOUR FEVER. YOU HORRIBLE PERSON.

(Glad to know my half-assed 2-word-based awesome hypothesis was correct. Because it's just awesome.)

[KOA]

@Banamatic

1) Rank definitely increases for every set you complete, but the changes are pretty small nonetheless. I don't think survival would affect rank as much in this case (Garegga gave you extends every 1mil pts, but Dimahoo only gives two extends at two fixed score points). So I guess, yeah, not collecting any sets at all will keep the rank nice and easy.

2) Doesn't seem to be an exploit. Your best bet is to speedkill them before they even fire, which was probably what you did. I played a run just now, they seem to be just aimed shots...can't you tap-dodge?

3) Bullets=>Laser seems to be random. I just try to launch a lv.8 fire charge so I can at least get to his 2nd phase as fast as I can (with the really fast spread stream) since the 2nd form is relatively easier than the first.

4)This question got me. I tried doing a save-state run -just- to see if I can ever trigger the full red form, and it doesn't seem to exist.

If you want a easy 1CC, use Birthday. Her bomb is really broken.
(In case you don't know how to unlock the 4 secret characters, insert a coin in the title screen and press Up, Up, Left, Down, Down, Right, A, B, A, B, A Start)

[Bananamatic]

Real men don't use Birthday :V

[KOA]

hah.

Oh, and I've confirmed w/ a few people that survival has -no- effect on rank whatsoever.

[Azinth]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Well, at least my performance on the final attack was better this time around.  I dodged like 4 waves or so. :x

[Matsuri]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Well, at least my performance on the final attack was better this time around.  I dodged like 4 waves or so. :x

Amazing.

[KOA]

Forget 20m, challenge the COUNTERSTOP.

[Formless God]

Random DDP run. Collected all BEES in Stage 1 and got to the middle of S5 before losing all lives, 16,000,000 points in the end Hey, at least I paid attention to my score this time.
Then I proceeded to credit-hax my way through S6 and pulled a 1-miss on the boss's final pattern for the first time (just a couple of more shots *bam*). One step closer to Hibachi, I guess.

[Sapz]

I just got my first 1cc of Donpachi (.inp).



Yes, that says 2-3. :dragonforce: I have no idea how I pulled off some of that crazy stuff in 2-2, but it was pretty hilarious. YouTube coming shortly.

[Bananamatic]

Almost reached Infernon again...does perfecting a boss give bonus points? I killed the st4 boss without bombs or deaths and it gave me like 800k...sadly it was a bad run which started by a death at the st2 boss, then st3, another on st4, then went no miss all the way up to the fire bomber at st5 pre-boss and stupidly clipped it. 3,5m...still an improvement.

I can see myself no missing up to st6...the only problems are my inability to bomb and the fact that it's a Raizing game.

[KOA]

Depending on the situation. If you destroy it using opposite element, you get 2x the point value the boss is worth, and bombing gives you 1/10th...
I'm not sure if you can get some kind of perfect bonus though. Hell, I'm not so sure what "Great Bonus" is.

[Sapz]

Donpachi 1-ALL uploaded, at last. The second loop part is pretty full of flukes, particularly at this part of the 2-2 boss; I'm really not sure how you're supposed to do it, but I'm pretty sure it's not like that. :V I mean, 5:52, what the hell was that?

EDIT: Fixing links~

[Matsuri]

What the hell, the 2-2 boss is nuts.

Also, I love how almost every one of the related videos mentions 'Spaz' somewhere in there. :3

[Azinth]

If you point-blank the stage 2 boss during his little spinny-drone spams, you can kill him before he even begins his second cycle.  It might require a somewhat modified strategy for the loop 2 version though, for obvious reasons. :V

Also, iirc if you are close to an enemy when you kill them in the second loop, they won't release any suicide bullets.  It's important for surviving later stages.

Nice job Sapz!  You should try Guwange next.

[lmagus]

wow, the music sucks in that game

I'm so glad Dodonpachi got so much better.

Very nice 1cc! The game is pretty hard x_x

[Bananamatic]

st1 music is pretty good tbh

[KOA]

st1 music is pretty good tbh

DOJ's stage 1 and DFK's stage 5 pretty much originated from DP's stage 1 music.

[lmagus]

I swear I can't see any similarity.

and I love DFK st 5

[KOA]

if you're talking about in comparison w/ DP st1 and DFK st.5. It's just one certain part of DFK that has the 'melody' (1:42-1:55 on the track if you have it).