Author Topic: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees  (Read 123577 times)

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #210 on: March 26, 2010, 12:05:36 AM »
And have another week where I don't bother to submit a score.

And I thought Black Label Original was supposed to be an easier 1cc. The stage 3 boss is still a complete ass. I derp even harder. And damn, the penalty for using a bomb is huge. I'll never get a good score or a high counter.

It's still funner than 1.5 though.


Put a few more credits into BWR+ and wasn't even making it to stage 3 most of the time due to lots of derping. I can't even perfect the stage 1 boss though I have done the stage part without getting hit. What the fuck? Oh, I made it to Stage 3 and didn't even get the secret extend. Even getting the secret extend at the moment requires lots of autoguards due to how much I get hit.

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #211 on: March 26, 2010, 12:38:19 AM »
And have another week where I don't bother to submit a score.

I would submit a score.  It'd just be a shitty 25m run where I put minimal effort forth and die on the final pattern with 6 bombs in stock.  With C-S. :yukkuri:

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #212 on: March 26, 2010, 01:06:28 AM »
Well, for the lulz, I experimented with left-handed movement, using the WASD keys (as my mind and body are better trained for that), with the k,l, and ; keys for movement. Its taking a little getting used to, buts its actually proving promising. I made it midway through Battle Bakraid's final normal stage before getting game over'd.

Generally, it also felt a little more natural and I found myself not as stressed and tensed as I normally am when I play shmups.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #213 on: March 26, 2010, 03:30:40 AM »
Gunbird 2 is tons of fun, as advertised. Still can't really tell if I like the chaining system or not, though - the only thing I'm certain about is that I'm terribad at it.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #214 on: March 26, 2010, 05:00:00 AM »
Psikyo games: Massive memorization fest. When the rank goes up and you get further into the games stuff becomes nearly impossible to dodge. But the thing is that in pretty much all psikyo games all bosses there's safespots in every pattern if you move in the exact correct way. I remember watching a Dragon Blaze 2-ALL no-miss, it was basically moving from safespot A into safespot B to safespot C... I mean, you dont even have to look at the bullets. tap... tap ... tap... move into corner... tap ... stream...

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #215 on: March 26, 2010, 06:06:32 AM »
Whee DDP 1-All finally. :)



(The picture looks dark because the screen started fading right as I took it)

Finally decided to put some time into this game again.  I spent some time savestating through the stages and ironing out parts that had always given me trouble and had never bothered to learn.  Then I tried a legit run and waddayaknow, everything fell together properly for once.

Perfect first three stages.  My very first death was in the middle of stage 4 carrying a full bomb bonus due to A POPUP MINIMIZING MAME.  I raeged.  Hard.  Stage 5 and 6 were so-so.  I think the score is decent enough considering how little preparation went into this run.

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #216 on: March 26, 2010, 06:17:32 AM »
congratulations, Azinth! Welcome to the team :p (not the Donpachi team, yet, though..)

I'm liking to play the latter stages of Gallet, more medals, meaning more points, they're bunched up too, meaning that they'll be easier to spawn/pickup at the right times, and less worries about having to collect them all (and each collected medal awards the same amount of points at the end of the stage, so picking them up is good). Also, more enemies to destroy and lots of power items (2000 points if you're full) too.
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #217 on: March 26, 2010, 08:35:30 AM »
And I thought Black Label Original was supposed to be an easier 1cc. The stage 3 boss is still a complete ass. I derp even harder. And damn, the penalty for using a bomb is huge. I'll never get a good score or a high counter.

I'll tell you this now so you don't fuck up like I did. If you happen to no-miss up to the very end and you have no bomb-stock left, for the love of god, SUICIDE. The end-game bonus will fuck you over if you happen to no-miss w/ no leftover bombs due to the fact that the formula for the end-game bonus is ([# of bombs x 10mil] x # of lives).

I lost potentially 120mil due to this.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #218 on: March 26, 2010, 08:56:40 AM »
shmpus + 5 AM = no

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #219 on: March 26, 2010, 01:21:11 PM »
how did you get 45m but not a 1cc before

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #220 on: March 26, 2010, 03:05:55 PM »
Started getting to grips with how to not die horribly in Black Label mode, made it to the final pattern of the final boss before getting a game over. ;_;

EDIT: Oh yeah, 'grats Azinth! Go start on that second loop. :V
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 03:39:36 PM by Sapz »
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #221 on: March 26, 2010, 03:31:05 PM »
Whee DDP 1-All finally. :)



(The picture looks dark because the screen started fading right as I took it)

Finally decided to put some time into this game again.  I spent some time savestating through the stages and ironing out parts that had always given me trouble and had never bothered to learn.  Then I tried a legit run and waddayaknow, everything fell together properly for once.

Perfect first three stages.  My very first death was in the middle of stage 4 carrying a full bomb bonus due to A POPUP MINIMIZING MAME.  I raeged.  Hard.  Stage 5 and 6 were so-so.  I think the score is decent enough considering how little preparation went into this run.

Great job! Your score is much better than mine. ( around 10 millions better. Haha. )
Anyway, might as well post some videos.

ESPra.de. 1cc part 1
ESPra.de. 1cc part 2
ESPra.de. 1cc part 3

Dodonpachi Dai-ou-jou DEATH LABEL 1121 million

Has anyone played XOP Black? It is awesome, especially on insane-mode. I once made it to the final boss.
Also, I should be trying to 1cc DOJ. I made once to final boss' last attack, but then I went and died. Boo.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 03:44:01 PM by Sasupoika »

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #222 on: March 26, 2010, 03:56:55 PM »
Thanks guys, and that's quite an impressive ESP Ra.De score you have there Sasupoika.  I need to get working on that game again especially with the new MAME out.  Maybe after I get that elusive Guwange 1cc.

how did you get 45m but not a 1cc before

I perfected the first three stages plus a good part of stage four.  Then I got small and short-lived bomb bonuses in stage 5 and 6.  I was 30m going out of stage 4 and 38m after stage 5 iirc.

Really, you absolutely need to grind stage 3 and learn how to perfect it consistently.  It's really important to carry your bomb bonus into stage 4; if you can't perfect the first three stages, you probably aren't going to be getting a good score, simple as that.

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #223 on: March 26, 2010, 10:52:34 PM »
Has this site really slowed down for anyone else lately?

Finally 108/108 scenes captured in DS. All sequential. Felt like StB had a more difficult Extra. The photography fight in the Spoiler stage was really amusing. Don't know if I'll try going through the game once more, with Hatate this time; maybe not so soon..

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #225 on: March 27, 2010, 08:14:21 AM »
That video looks really sharp. What did you use to capture it?

(God I want to play Futari so badly...)

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #226 on: March 27, 2010, 08:27:54 AM »
This expensive son-of-a-bitch. I blew about $200 on this.
Aren't Arcade 360s cheap nowadays?
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #227 on: March 27, 2010, 09:05:42 AM »
Wow, that looks nifty. I thought it was just a PC capture card. If I ever decide to get a PVR, I'm definitely going to take something like that into consideration.

And yeah, NA Arcade units are cheap nowadays, I think. But I want a JP region 360 for things like Ketsui and DeathSmiles II, and those still run about $300 CAD on Play-Asia. I think I'm looking at around $800 total; I have the money but I'm just frugal, and getting a new toy when finals are around the corner wouldn't be a bright idea. :V

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #228 on: March 27, 2010, 11:44:32 AM »
lol, I make my videos with a 15$ PCI card. No need for anything expensive imo :V

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #229 on: March 27, 2010, 12:55:21 PM »
lol, I make my videos with a 15$ PCI card. No need for anything expensive imo :V

Well, to each their own. I used to have a USB capture card that only had Composite S-video (and recorded like...30FPS interlaced), but for 360 stuff, might as well get a really good one and record hi-def. (For me, anyway)

@Aisha, I got mine from the shmupsforum for pretty cheap, maybe you can too if you don't mind the whole second-hand dealie.
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #230 on: March 27, 2010, 01:12:16 PM »
guwange aaaaarrrggggghhhh

st4 game over, rape all over

how do you refill your life anyways

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #231 on: March 27, 2010, 04:34:26 PM »
No-missed the stage section of DDP 2-5 while practicing. @_@ Used seven bombs, but still.

Of course then I died twice on the boss while bombspamming but whatever. :V I absolutely cannot do a single one of his attacks. No idea how you're supposed to tackle them at all.
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #232 on: March 27, 2010, 04:58:51 PM »
2 1ccs in a row
25m both

shitscore yay

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #233 on: March 27, 2010, 05:08:16 PM »
guwange aaaaarrrggggghhhh

st4 game over, rape all over

how do you refill your life anyways

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=3009

Yes, there really is a full-healthbar item in stage 6.  It's the only reason I'm as close to 1cc'ing this game as I am.  Since the stage 5 boss is horrible godawful luckshit, I'm always running on steam by the time I get to the final stage. ;_;

Also, to get the st.4 midboss's 1-up, you can't kill it with bombs.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #234 on: March 27, 2010, 05:13:12 PM »
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=3009

Yes, there really is a full-healthbar item in stage 6.  It's the only reason I'm as close to 1cc'ing this game as I am.  Since the stage 5 boss is horrible godawful luckshit, I'm always running on steam by the time I get to the final stage. ;_;

Also, to get the st.4 midboss's 1-up, you can't kill it with bombs.
lol gotta love the fact that you have no invincible periods after a hit
1 stream and 1 life gone

also who said that guwange is easiest cave 1cc

i'd say DDP is
« Last Edit: March 27, 2010, 05:18:11 PM by Bananamatic »

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #235 on: March 27, 2010, 10:27:29 PM »
i'd say DDP is
Futari Black Label Original is definitely easier than DDP. Haven't really played Mushi Original but that's supposed to be pretty easy too, I think.

Also, I tried Dimahoo today. It was almost as awesome as its intro. :V
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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #236 on: March 27, 2010, 10:36:34 PM »
also who said that guwange is easiest cave 1cc

i'd say DDP is
I'd definitely say that Guwange is harder than DDP, even with the lifebar.  The difficulty spikes dramatically from the stage 5 boss onward, and the final pattern is not only harder to dodge than DDP 1-6's, but it's also bomb-immune.  DDP has harder chaining though, for what it's worth. :V

On a related note, did some more practice runs with DDP earlier.  I'm kind of ashamed at bombing through stage 4 in the past so much, because it's really easy once you learn it.  Also, I found a method for the streaming hell in DDP stage 5 that makes it way way easier.  The only really hard part about it now is the last two direction-switches at the second white tower.

Edit:  Oh, and anyone been thinking of the theme for this week?  I'll just be a bastard and suggest Psikyo Week to start with. >:3

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #237 on: March 27, 2010, 10:53:00 PM »
I'll just be a bastard and suggest Psikyo Week to start with. >:3
bwahahahaha very yes  >:D

Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #238 on: March 27, 2010, 10:58:15 PM »
I thought we were going to vote on single games again.


Anyway

Obligatory Doujin Week
Konami Week(because I wouldn't mind some Gradius or Parodius, or Life Force, or Salamander, etc.)


Or we could do Giga Wing, which should have won last time.

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Re: STG Thread Stage 4 ~ Like the Night of Hunting Bees
« Reply #239 on: March 27, 2010, 11:00:06 PM »
look, um

i've got other issues going on right now so

that's why I really haven't been able to really play or post all week

so um

next week is probably going to be a break week due to circumstances

sorry for the inconvenience