Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Did any of them need a hand? :V

Obviously  :V

[E-Nazrin]

Basically NO. But if you could say what 'inconvenience' would mean specifically, that'd help.

Were the arms removed due to getting in the way of tasks that their owner found more important, or was otherwise considered unnecessary and not worth the hassle?

Double-checking for injury and cosmetics/appearance, since it isn't 100% clear whether that "NO" was universal or just to "inconvenience."

Was/were the arms of either relevant party removed while working above a body of water (that was not further underground in case you feel like being a dick)? While working underwater?

Was/were the arms removed by the force of a water stream (i.e. highly pressurized and/or very fast/heavy such as... I don't know, a waterfall)?
(Just assume these questions ask for both the receiving group and the guy with the sent arm, since I don't want to waste time fucking around with grammar.)

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Were the arms removed due to getting in the way of tasks that their owner found more important, or was otherwise considered unnecessary and not worth the hassle?

My sarcastic mind would allow me to actually word things in a way to allow me a yes here, but I'll be honest and say NO.
Remind me to inlcude the sarcastic-wording thing when we get to the solution. 

Was/were the arms of either relevant party removed while working above a body of water (that was not further underground in case you feel like being a dick)?

It wasn't removed during work, NO

While working underwater?

NO

Was/were the arms removed by the force of a water stream (i.e. highly pressurized and/or very fast/heavy such as... I don't know, a waterfall)?

NO

(Just assume these questions ask for both the receiving group and the guy with the sent arm, since I don't want to waste time fucking around with grammar.)

Did that.

I'll say you that, my dear players: You are currently taking a really roundabout way of getting any closer to the solution. I have no idea whether this is due to unclear answers, so maybe a summarizing would be in order. Recheck your current assumptions.

[E-Nazrin]

I can't think of any reason someone would want to have their arm removed, which is basically the only possibility left: It wasn't a direct accident, it was with permission, and it wasn't due to any sane reason I can come up with.

Did they want the arms removed?

Is "not during work" a technicality meaning that it was lost while over a body of water while NOT working?

Was it removed/given reason to be removed during a leisure activity? As part of a special event? Educational?

Is wordplay involved in this?

Should we be focusing on why the arm was/were removed? How? Why it was sent? Specific identities of anyone involved?

[Thaws]

Was their arms not damaged when they had them severed?
Could they use their arms just like a normal human?

Did they almost drown in sea before?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

It wasn't a direct accident, it was with permission, and it wasn't due to any sane reason I can come up with.

YES

Did they want the arms removed?

NO. As I said before, I doubt anyone would want that, but it was one of the best choices for them

Is "not during work" a technicality meaning that it was lost while over a body of water while NOT working?

Could you please state more clearly what you mean with that 'over a body of water' stuff? I have no idea how to understand that. And YES, they were not working at the time of removal of the arms.

Was it removed/given reason to be removed during a leisure activity?
As part of a special event?
 Educational?

That kind of detail on the situation are UNKNOWN

Is wordplay involved in this?

NO

Should we be focusing on why the arm was/were removed? How?
Why it was sent?
Specific identities of anyone involved?

NO for 'How?' and 'Specific Identities', YES for the other two

Was their arms not damaged when they had them severed?

IRRELEVANT (and answered before)

Could they use their arms just like a normal human?

YES

Did they almost drown in sea before?

YES! Finally something in the right direction!

[E-Nazrin]

Could you please state more clearly what you mean with that 'over a body of water' stuff? I have no idea how to understand that. And YES, they were not working at the time of removal of the arms.

I mean, was "Was/were the arms of either relevant party removed while working above a body of water" answered NO because they were not above a body of water, or because I used the word "working" and they weren't working: grammar tricksiness. But apparently the whole thing's irrelevant, so it's been led to a huge waste of time. :V

Are fish significantly involved? Boats?

The arms were removed due to a 'sort of' accident, with permission but without wanting to lose it, and not due to disease, poison, injury, or to escape a trapped arm. It was thrown into the sea symbolically in reference to nearly drowning.

... A crew of sailors stranded on an island had to eat their own arms to survive: except for one, who later had it removed and thrown into the sea for fairness' sake.

Possible story, lolidunno

But, are the other removed arms still intact somewhere?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Actually I wanted an example of what that phrase meant to you, but your next questions cover that ^^

Are fish significantly involved?

NO

Boats?

YES

The arms were removed due to a 'sort of' accident, with permission but without wanting to lose it, and not due to disease, poison, injury, or to escape a trapped arm. It was thrown into the sea symbolically in reference to nearly drowning.

YES

... A crew of sailors stranded on an island had to eat their own arms to survive: except for one, who later had it removed and thrown into the sea for fairness' sake.

Almost, YES. Having an island there is the Edible version, mine is drifting on the sea, but I'll count that part. However, part of your answer directly contradicts already discovered facts. Fix that, and you're good to go.

But, are the other removed arms still intact somewhere?

NO

[E-Nazrin]

WERE the arms used as food, then? Was that the main reason for their removal, to avoid complete cannibalism?

Did I mess up in calling them sailors, out of the irrelevant whim of calling them pirates and being a choice-of-words technicality?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

WERE the arms used as food, then? Was that the main reason for their removal, to avoid complete cannibalism?

YES. The arms were used as foot ass there was nothing else available.

Did I mess up in calling them sailors, out of the irrelevant whim of calling them pirates and being a choice-of-words technicality?

NO. Whether they were pirates, sailors, or just random people on a boat vacation is IRRELEVANT. I'll make pirates the solution now, because it's fun :V

[E-Nazrin]

And had it sent to the rest of the group so they could eat it (or whatever) for fairness' sake? :V

Is this about making a deal about whose arms get eaten first - the last one needing to fulfill his end of the bargain on that?

Is it relevant that someone else sent the recently-removed arm, rather than the owner himself?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

And had it sent to the rest of the group so they could eat it (or whatever) for fairness' sake? :V

NO

Is this about making a deal about whose arms get eaten first - the last one needing to fulfill his end of the bargain on that?

That as well, YES

Is it relevant that someone else sent the recently-removed arm, rather than the owner himself?

YES. This is exactly the point you still have to find out more about.

[E-Nazrin]

A group of people were stranded in the ocean, and made an agreement to cut off one person's arm and eat it in order to survive without having to kill anyone. The two-armed person got out of his end of the deal somehow (most likely from the group being rescued), and the one-armed group sent someone to collect the arm they were owed. Rather than getting killed, the remaining two-armed survivor agreed with the 'assassin' to have just the arm removed and sent.

I forget, did the package sender have two arms?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

A group of people were stranded in the ocean, and made an agreement to cut off one person's arm and eat it in order to survive without having to kill anyone. The two-armed person got out of his end of the deal somehow (most likely from the group being rescued), and the one-armed group sent someone to collect the arm they were owed. Rather than getting killed, the remaining two-armed survivor agreed with the 'assassin' to have just the arm removed and sent.

Red parts are correct, the rest isn't.

I forget, did the package sender have two arms?

YES

[E-Nazrin]

Is the package sender the last member of the stranded group, or the person who had their arm removed?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Is the package sender the last member of the stranded group

YES

Or the person who had their arm removed?

NO

Keep it up. You're on the right track now ^^

[E-Nazrin]

Now the question is how they got conned/bribed into it... or is that not relevant?

The sender was asked for his own arm, but managed to get someone else's and sent that instead.

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Now the question is how they got conned/bribed into it... or is that not relevant?
The sender was asked for his own arm, but managed to get someone else's and sent that instead.

YES. You pretty much answered your own question already  :V

[E-Nazrin]

A group of people pirates were stranded in the ocean, and made an agreement to cut off one person's arm and eat it in order to survive without having to kill anyone. The two-armed person got out of his end of the deal somehow (most likely from the group being rescued), and was later asked to send it. He managed to remove someone else's arm instead, and sent that to avoid losing his own arm.

Do we need to find how the sent arm was acquired?

Was the sent arm recently removed when it was sent?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

I'll count that one. Solution and new riddle will come in a bit. Please wait warmly~

[Dead Princess Sakana]

~Case solved~
Enough details have been uncovered and brought into connection to declare this case as solved

A group of people pirates were stranded in the ocean, and made an agreement to cut off one person's arm and eat it in order to survive without having to kill anyone. The two-armed person got out of his end of the deal somehow (most likely from the group being rescued), and was later asked to send it. He managed to remove someone else's arm instead, and sent that to avoid losing his own arm.

YES The logic behind the case is complete in this answer, I will use my card-version for the solution though.

A long time ago the four pirates, yarrr~ men drifted on a treetrunk on the sea in a hopeless situation.
Their ship has sunk, they had no food.
So they agreed that everyone had to sacrifice an arm.
Before it was the fourth man's turn however, they were rescued.
The other three reminded him of his promise and claimed one of his arms.
Since the fourth man lived far away from them, he didn't even think of keeping the promise.
He offered whoever was ready to lend him a hand arm one million Euro.
Soon a volunteer was found, the arm was severed and sent to the other three men, who believed it was the arm of the fourth one.

This one was quite a mean riddle, eh?
I enjoyed watching your struggles, and they payed off nicely in the end.
Also, this riddle made for a lot of interesting and fun questions.
So, which one next....
Hmmm, how about...
Ah, yes, that's a nice one, I'm sure you'll like it, my dear players.




Twentyeighth Case: Flickering
When the light flickered, Stephen knew he came too late.

[Spidere]

Was he too late in the sense that someone died?

Was someone on life support?

[axman36]

Did the light come from an appliance used to light areas(Lightbulb, lamp, etc.)

Did the light come from electricity sparks?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Was he too late in the sense that someone died?

YES

Was someone on life support?

NO

Did the light come from an appliance used to light areas(Lightbulb, lamp, etc.)

YES

Did the light come from electricity sparks?

NO

[theshirn]

Was the light from an electrical appliance?  (Being careful here)

[Thaws]

Since the light was flickering, does that mean it never stays lit up?

Was the light an fire alarm?

Was Stephen too late to save (at least) one person's life?

[Spidere]

Well, a friend of mine got into a discussion with me today, and it just gave me a devious idea.

Was someone executed?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Was the light from an electrical appliance?  (Being careful here)

Checking for candles, eh? Nice move indeed. It's a NO however.

Since the light was flickering, does that mean it never stays lit up?

NO. It usually does stay lit.

Was the light an fire alarm?

NO

Was Stephen too late to save (at least) one person's life?

YES

Was someone executed?

Goddamnit Thundr. How do you always do this? YES!

Seems like this will be shorter than I thought, interesting. ^^

[E-Nazrin]

Electric chair~

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Electric chair~

YES~ Not enough though~