Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3  (Read 178263 times)

Kanako Yasaka

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #480 on: February 28, 2010, 02:48:13 AM »
How much damage do I have to occur to the boss and the limbs to cause her to summon the next one? I don't want to overattack, which is really easy since she's pretty slow.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #481 on: February 28, 2010, 02:54:10 AM »
I still need to level up severely for the Trio battle. Makes me wish I hadn't run so much when going after switches

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #482 on: February 28, 2010, 05:56:23 AM »
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I don't want to overattack, which is really easy since she's pretty slow.

Um... wat? "Overattack" sounds kinda weird, you mean you don't want to deal more then whats needed for the next part of the fight to begin? All damage dealt to her stays on her, you just can't defeat her until all the minions are down, meaning that "overattacking" would probly be impossible.

Why do you want to avoid dealing to much dmg before the next minion comes out?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #483 on: February 28, 2010, 05:58:49 AM »
Oh, okay.

The damage carries over after her HP goes down? Good.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #484 on: February 28, 2010, 06:00:31 AM »
Actually, I'm pretty sure her HP just resets to 2mill after the 3rd limb comes out and that's it. Still, overdamaging her isn't really a huge thing to be worried about.
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Kanako Yasaka

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #485 on: February 28, 2010, 06:07:26 AM »
Would it be better to keep a limb out (since it's easier than her last form) and just keep damaging her there?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #486 on: February 28, 2010, 06:10:32 AM »
Would it be better to keep a limb out (since it's easier than her last form) and just keep damaging her there?
This is... debatable. The limbs get stronger and unlock new moves as you take the others out. The top gets Djinn Storm and such while the right gets Scourge, the left gets like, I dunno. You could try doing it like that.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #487 on: February 28, 2010, 06:43:06 AM »
The Left gets various High-Level spells including, but not limited to, Flowing Hellfire(Of course), Ether whatever(Multi-target MYS) and I think it gets Magicial Hellfire(Multi-target MYS dmg, can cause PSN, PAR, SIL and DTH) as well. problem with keeping one minion alive and beating up the main is that, *if* I am correct, the Main portion will NOT die until all minions are dead, unless your fighting the V.2 of the boss.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #488 on: February 28, 2010, 08:06:18 AM »
problem with keeping one minion alive and beating up the main is that, *if* I am correct, the Main portion will NOT die until all minions are dead, unless your fighting the V.2 of the boss.

I think that's mostly true.I think how it works is the body doesn't LOSE Hp until the limbs are dead. Even with an extremely (500+ levels) overleveled team, I couldn't brute force it. I could wail and wail, but it would never die until shortly after the last limb showed up.

On the other hand, if you can do over it's max HP in one blow, I think she might die anyway. A hax'd character one shotted the boss before it could move, and I'm ALMOST certain it was the V.1 version.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #489 on: February 28, 2010, 08:36:47 AM »
In that sense, it's similar to 18F boss, if you can deal enough dmg before the phase change/minion summoning, for 18F and Final Boss respectivly, the boss will die.

Also, Final Boss V.2 can be killed even if a minion is alive, I found this out 1st hand.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #490 on: February 28, 2010, 09:56:18 AM »
Apparently she can be killed before summoning the 3rd add. She just has like 50X the hp than she normally does is all. After the 3rd add is summoned, her hp fall to normal levels, regardless of how many you kill.

I found that leaving one alive doesn't really make it any easier, but if I was forced to choose one, I'd pick the left one since it just does nukes which aren't even as powerful as the boss' after all adds are dead anyway. The right one's scourge is just too iffy (it would spam it for me personally), and I didn't (at the time) have good enough status resists to make the top one a non-threat, it was pretty much a KILL IT NOW deal even when all 3 were up for me. But if you have good status resists leaving the top one is probably a good idea too. It can cast djinn storm when it's the last one BUT so can the boss anyway if you kill all 3 anyway!

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #491 on: February 28, 2010, 11:27:08 AM »
Considering I use the heck out of Cirno in my main party (lolwut), I find Patchy to be pretty reliable, as Cirno is very fast and can usually slow down anything massive if she can't PAR it, so that Patchy can act pretty fast.
You're not the only one: I always had Cirno in my main party until I got to floor 19 and everything started being resistant to debuffs and PAR, as well as most of them being slow enough that even Patchy attacked earlier than them. She's still my save file character, though.

Kanako Yasaka

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #492 on: February 28, 2010, 03:38:35 PM »
Her HP DOES go back down to normal after the third limb is summoned, right? I may not be able to kill her until they're all dead but I can still inflict damage? I'm kind of confused. o.o

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #493 on: February 28, 2010, 03:43:53 PM »
Her HP DOES go back down to normal after the third limb is summoned, right? I may not be able to kill her until they're all dead but I can still inflict damage? I'm kind of confused. o.o
You can definitely kill her before they all die. Its just she has a lot more HP then they do.

And yeah, all of them have like 100m HP before the third limb is summoned, and the HP goes to normal after that.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2010, 03:45:58 PM by NeoMargatroid »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #494 on: February 28, 2010, 04:27:16 PM »
I reached 27F, but there's a barrier telling me I need 6 stars in order to proceed.

So, I have 4 already... the one for beating the final boss, for collecting 100 items, for defeating the 4 bloodstained guardians, and for reuniting 32 characters. How can I get the other 2?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #495 on: February 28, 2010, 04:30:18 PM »
Beat all the version2 bosses, including the final.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #496 on: February 28, 2010, 04:58:36 PM »
Beat all the version2 bosses, including the final.

And how to get the sixth one?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #497 on: February 28, 2010, 05:05:26 PM »
And how to get the sixth one?
Beating ALL the ver.2 and bloodstained bosses gets you that. The Ver.2 star doesn't include the Ver.2 Final, this does.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #498 on: February 28, 2010, 05:07:22 PM »
Oh wow this thread's still active.

So uh my eternal hiatus there was due to playing Labyrinth to death up to legitimately beating the first two F30 bonus bosses, then hacking my skillpoints to boost up everything crazy high so Flandre was dealing 10 million damage to the right-hand F30 bonus boss and probably would take 0 damage from his ice attack in the final phase if I tested after that one last bout of skillthing raising.

S'cool.

And how to get the sixth one?

I think you get one star for beating all the V2 bosses OTHER than the final, then the sixth for beating V2 of the final; unsealing V2 of the final requires you to get all the other stars, then poke around the early parts of floor 19 a bit.

If you can survive into the mid-20 floors, she probably won't be too big of a challenge.
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #499 on: February 28, 2010, 06:09:37 PM »

I think you get one star for beating all the V2 bosses OTHER than the final, then the sixth for beating V2 of the final; unsealing V2 of the final requires you to get all the other stars, then poke around the early parts of floor 19 a bit.

If you can survive into the mid-20 floors, she probably won't be too big of a challenge.

Can you point out the locations of V2 mokou and flandre? I can't find them anywhere.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #500 on: February 28, 2010, 06:17:40 PM »
Spoiler:
Flandre
is on floor 5, just below the relay point.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #501 on: February 28, 2010, 06:20:48 PM »
Spoiler:
Flandre
is on floor 5, just below the relay point.

Do you remember where is mokou and alice?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #502 on: February 28, 2010, 06:22:23 PM »
I'm not certain, but I think they are just about where
Spoiler:
Kaguya
was hanging around before you recruited her. Or was that two other people?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #503 on: February 28, 2010, 06:27:16 PM »
I'm not certain, but I think they are just about where
Spoiler:
Kaguya
was hanging around before you recruited her. Or was that two other people?

Thanks for the info, I've just defeated them with 1 master spark. (Level 410 Marisa)  :V

But they are really other people, The only one missing for me right now is mokou... and I can't find her.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #504 on: February 28, 2010, 06:32:07 PM »
Go to the 17F relay and take the stairs up. Mokou V.2 will be right there when you enter 18F.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #505 on: February 28, 2010, 06:42:53 PM »
Go to the 17F relay and take the stairs up. Mokou V.2 will be right there when you enter 18F.

Thanks, are you sure beating all the V2 bosses unlocks Maribel V2?

Because I've got my fifth star already, but maribel is still V1.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #506 on: February 28, 2010, 06:44:09 PM »
Thanks, are you sure beating all the V2 bosses unlocks Maribel V2?

Because I've got my fifth star already, but maribel is still V1.
Go to the beginning part of 20F. There'll be 4 teleporters in the middle, you have to go to the seal through each one. You'll get messages from Yukari saying they were to weaken the Final Boss.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #507 on: February 28, 2010, 07:00:34 PM »
Go to the beginning part of 20F. There'll be 4 teleporters in the middle, you have to go to the seal through each one. You'll get messages from Yukari saying they were to weaken the Final Boss.

How do I defeat "Great Tetragrammaton" Or whatever is his name?

-EDIT- nevermind, I just defeated him.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2010, 07:13:45 PM by Sashiromiya Sasha »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #508 on: February 28, 2010, 08:08:06 PM »
Sorry for double posting, but how can I activate the broken magic circle at 27F?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #509 on: February 28, 2010, 09:20:30 PM »
For that Magic circle on 27F you must find 4 magic circles on 27F. When you find them you get a scene in which someone mentions "if we give power to this, it'll work like a switch."