Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3  (Read 178254 times)

MysTeariousYukari

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #360 on: February 21, 2010, 09:27:40 PM »
19F beaten, mapped all everything on 20F that you can get to before beating Final Boss.

Kanako Yasaka

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #361 on: February 21, 2010, 10:09:26 PM »
Final boss is pretty cool. Reimu is only level 120 now though. :

Grinding is fun.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #362 on: February 21, 2010, 10:38:01 PM »
So is there a HP trigger for the F9 boss's Elixer Buff?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #363 on: February 21, 2010, 10:44:00 PM »
And what about these stars? Given the blue orb things I can currently use, I apparently have two of them, but is there anywhere I can actually check them? And for that matter, what exactly do I need to do to get more?

Spoiler:
Game Cleared
32 Allies Joined
Collected 100 items
All Ver 2 Bosses Clear
Blood Seals Purified
Enhanced Bosses Clear
x 30F final boss kills(x = amount of times you won since he is refightable)

So is there a HP trigger for the F9 boss's Elixer Buff?

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« Last Edit: February 21, 2010, 10:51:48 PM by Axel Ryman »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #364 on: February 21, 2010, 10:47:00 PM »
Do you mean Buddha's Stone Bowl or Hourai Elixir?. If its the former, it happens when at least 3 stat debuff's are put on Eintei combined, so don't use too many Stat Debuffs. If its the latter, then it randomly happens I think, not sure about it.
Wrong floor boss!

Yes, I'm pretty sure its her final phase when she starts casting that. Not 100% sure though.
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Axel Ryman

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #365 on: February 21, 2010, 10:53:51 PM »
Wrong floor boss!

Yes, I'm pretty sure its her final phase when she starts casting that. Not 100% sure though.

Yeah just realized it. x_x When I saw Elixer I only thought of the one I said

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #366 on: February 21, 2010, 11:23:20 PM »
Well I beat
Spoiler:
Reisen
. Guess I might use this new character.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #367 on: February 21, 2010, 11:39:53 PM »
Well I beat
Spoiler:
Reisen
. Guess I might use this new character.
Did you beat her with most of her minions up?  Like...killing no more than two before you brought her down?
Cheating? I cannot even wrap my head around the point of it. Wouldn't you know you had cheated? How on Earth could you maintain crisp certainty of your superiority to all others? And if you're unable to do that, what's the point of anything?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #368 on: February 21, 2010, 11:52:44 PM »
No I didn't feel like grinding or using Rumia just to get her drop. Also do i need to do the 10-12F switch stuff all in one sitting?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #369 on: February 21, 2010, 11:55:08 PM »
No, the switches stay the same when you leave. There is a home run stretch at the end where you've got to do an entire section at once without returning, though. You'll know when you're at it because you'll reach a 12F relay point, and a button that sets all three switches to ON.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #370 on: February 22, 2010, 12:18:49 AM »
...Dual Funeral Washing Machine? What kind of an attack name is that?

In other words, I just got destroyed by the 9F Bloodstained Seal. That thing is just too fast...

EDIT:
Spoiler:
Tenshi v2
down, with my last attack just before she was about to wipe my party with Violent Motherland.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2010, 12:26:14 AM by yoshicookiezeus »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #371 on: February 22, 2010, 12:33:57 AM »
Ah, goddamnit.  :(

Managed to kill all the final boss's limbs, but wasn't fast enough to finish her off.
She buffed like thrice in a row and her speed went through the roof.

Level 135 by the way.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #372 on: February 22, 2010, 12:42:23 AM »
All V.2s and all Bloodstained Seals have been beaten, save for Final Boss V.2

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #373 on: February 22, 2010, 12:44:20 AM »
And there goes Alice and
Spoiler:
Nitori
as well. These v2 bosses are a lot of fun so far...

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #374 on: February 22, 2010, 12:47:23 AM »
I agree yoshicookie :D They all seem to have around 2 million HP as well, so thats one thing that isn't to difficult to deal with.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #375 on: February 22, 2010, 04:47:35 AM »
Well I beat
Spoiler:
Reisen
. Guess I might use this new character.
It's worth it.  But... maybe not immediately.  Her real use is those buff spells - they buff active party members for 20% in two stats, which is not much at all... but they also buff all reserve characters for 15% in those same stats, too.  There isn't any other character who can do this, so it's a huge advantage.

But, er, yeah.  You probably noticed her support SP Costs are a little ridiculous.  Like I said, she might not be as useful as she could be just yet as a result.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #376 on: February 22, 2010, 04:59:52 AM »
It's worth it.  But... maybe not immediately.  Her real use is those buff spells - they buff active party members for 20% in two stats, which is not much at all... but they also buff all reserve characters for 15% in those same stats, too.  There isn't any other character who can do this, so it's a huge advantage.

But, er, yeah.  You probably noticed her support SP Costs are a little ridiculous.  Like I said, she might not be as useful as she could be just yet as a result.

Pretty sure it's the opposite stats for the reserve characters. Doesn't matter much though, both of the stat pairs are desireable all the time.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #377 on: February 22, 2010, 09:48:06 AM »
Anybody know what's the minimal level requirement for post-game content, or at least, 21F?
My Reimu is 180 and that Baal Avatar boss on 21F still own me so hard  :V.

It's getting boring to grind from 130~180+... I even have 18F as MVP now thanks to all those battle count from grinding on 20F  :V

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #378 on: February 22, 2010, 11:00:24 AM »
It's getting boring to grind from 130~180+... I even have 18F as MVP now thanks to all those battle count from grinding on 20F  :V

That's quite...erm..yeah.. :V

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #379 on: February 22, 2010, 11:55:45 AM »
Seems like most of the early v2 bosses are complete pushovers (honorable mention goes to Chen for dealing almost zero damage to everyone before I even got my defense buffs up). So far, the only ones I haven't defeated on my first attempt are
Spoiler:
Mokou
,
Spoiler:
Flandre
,
Spoiler:
Yukari
, and
Spoiler:
Rinnosuke
. Had a bit of trouble with Yuugi due to 280k Knockout in Three Steps what, but since she doesn't use any attacks that target your entire party, it simply became a matter of putting a few attackers in the back slots while hoping that you don't run out of sacrifices to put in the front ones.

Also ran into the boss rush by mistake. While KOing the first few bosses with a single Attack command from Remilia (and nuking both Alice's team and
Spoiler:
Eientei
with a single Royal Flare) was a lot of fun, a lack of planning quickly had
Spoiler:
Tenshi
and Meiling run out of TP. And losing both Patchy and
Spoiler:
Flandre
due to underestimating the speed of  the 15F bosses didn't help either... I gave up around the 19F sigil guardians.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #380 on: February 22, 2010, 01:20:52 PM »
Apologies for the delay. NG+ save game all fixed.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #381 on: February 22, 2010, 04:10:53 PM »
Okay, I killed the top and left limbs (the most dangerous).
Should I do as much damage to the boss herself now before killing the last limb?

EDIT:
AAAGGGGHGHHGGAAAAHHH Overflowing Unnatural Power.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2010, 04:33:34 PM by Jaimers »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #382 on: February 22, 2010, 08:12:25 PM »
Okay, I killed the top and left limbs (the most dangerous).
Should I do as much damage to the boss herself now before killing the last limb?

EDIT:
AAAGGGGHGHHGGAAAAHHH Overflowing Unnatural Power.

wtf? kill the right limb or else it spams scourge...which is very bad. Kill all 3 really. Every time you kill one, the others gain new powers that make them singly more dangerous than the other limbs combined.
Besides, left limb is least dangerous IMO, even with magic jitsu, its spells are rather wussy compared to everything else the boss has.
Last, if you kill the right limb, you no longer need physical tanks...at all. So you can stick whoever the heck you want on the far left with no fear of being owned by some kinda physical attack.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #383 on: February 22, 2010, 08:32:59 PM »
It doesn't really spam Scourge; it just unlocks it for use. Heck, I've always killed it last since it has the most HP, I just MASTER SPARK it after everything else dies, and I've never seen Scourge yet. Not that it's ever had more then one or two more moves at that point.

The top has tons of annoying moves and the left has Multi-hits that kill my squishies. The only thing I worry about from the right is a random single-target attack on 3rd character (which is rare) or someone getting SIL.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #384 on: February 22, 2010, 08:34:00 PM »
Really? I killed the right one last just once.. and it used scourge 4 times in a row, at which point I just said "fux this" and quit.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #385 on: February 22, 2010, 09:21:20 PM »
I'm curious, did anyone else notice that the boss theme used for Youmu/Alice also appears as the Stage 4 boss theme in touhou-alike Hollow World of God?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-OMOL_mAF8

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #386 on: February 22, 2010, 10:06:33 PM »
Question: Where's a good place to farm skillpoints pre-floor 18?

Since my skillpoint levels in everyone was so bad that my wear-down char on 16F's boss did under 20k and my final assault included a 100%-buffed, full-SP Master Spark that did 90k damage (and a 25k Silent Selene with the same 100% buff), I think it might be good to try and get everyone to better skillpoint levels than just 45 in their main stats...

EDIT: Yeah,I know adding 16F beech to my team was probably not the smartest idea at this point since she needs a good skillpoint investment just to get on par with everyone else (and then even more to be on par with where she SHOULD be), but Yuugi's Mdef was too big an issue... I'll just have to skip out on 18F's cooties, sadly.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2010, 10:09:10 PM by AlexX Unlimited »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #387 on: February 22, 2010, 10:48:20 PM »
Seems like most v2 bosses can be divided into two groups: the "let's wipe your party" group and the "almost zero damage to everyone" group. (The exception would probably be Yuugi, who prefers to kill off one party member at a time.) Right now, it would seem like I have run of out bosses in the latter group, which means that I probably need to grind for a bit...

Or, I suppose, I could just use my 4M skillpoints amassed from fighting all those bosses to pump the defense levels of my tanks to ridiculous levels. Though that still doesn't help with those defense-piercing moves... (Ratetsu Fist D:)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #388 on: February 22, 2010, 11:00:11 PM »
I guess i'll start on the Floor 10-12 Switch Puzzle tonight. I at least want to try and Fight
Spoiler:
Tenshi

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3
« Reply #389 on: February 23, 2010, 12:37:30 AM »
Gave the final boss another shot only to be killed again after the limbs go off.

How much health does she have anyway?
Chen wailing away, an 80% buffed
Spoiler:
Flandre
and a fully powered Master Spark apparently wasn't enough.
Why won't she just die?! D: