Labyrinth of Touhou Discussion #3

[Serela]

Yeah, Mystearica is actually right. On my first play Mr.Man was a nightmare and I eventually did a 1 hour 30 minute battle where 10F wall sat out and took nearly 0 damage from everything, switching in nukers and healers.

The second play I had Meiling-Remi-Breastwoman16F out in that order for most of the battle and kept my DEF/MND buffs up, they rarely took damage from anything.

[Rikter]

Well I got the large font to work after somehow breaking a system 32 file just by moving the fonts...

[yoshicookiezeus]

Are the 19F Sigil Guardians supposed to be hard? I just defeated the two middle ones on my first attempt without very much trouble at all...

EDIT: And there goes one more, without any characters lost at all. Oh god that thing was fast, though...

[Jaimers]

Beat Mr. Man at Reimu level 95! 

I should have recorded it as this was an epic battle.
I think the fight took almost an hour.  :V
Reimu and

Spoiler:

Yukari

ran out of TP 3/4 into the fight and were a massive pain as they couldn't be switched out.
FYI I didn't use

Spoiler:

Tenshi

. The 50% barrier buffs were the key to success indeed.

I kind of panicked when Master Spark didn't finish off his last phase as all my other nukers were already gone.
Remilia was bashing away and I see him use his massive buff.
I knew I couldn't survive his next attack, so I bring in Chen. No time for Kimontonkou (his bar was blue) I do an unbuffed Flight of Idaten.

Mr Man dies.

wut

[Serela]

Chen is pretty much god tier in main game. Highest damage output by far, very high SP recovery, and she generally takes ONE hit without kicking the bucket, at least.

Are the 19F Sigil Guardians supposed to be hard? I just defeated the two middle ones on my first attempt without very much trouble at all...

EDIT: And there goes one more, without any characters lost at all. Oh god that thing was fast, though...

Cosmic generally gives a little trouble, but other then that they aren't difficult at all. 20F randoms are practically worse.

[Rikter]

How strong is

Spoiler:

Nitori

on Floor 8 I need to know like Right now because I just encountered her

[yoshicookiezeus]

Fourth sigil guardian defeated. Bosses that you can keep under near-constant paralysis lockdown are always fun... And now on to floor 20!

Also, all characters are now level 100 or above. Yay?

[Serela]

How strong is

Spoiler:

Nitori

on Floor 8 I need to know like Right now because I just encountered her

8F? Only slightly worse then a normal random battle.

[yoshicookiezeus]

Oh god. 20F random encounters are not very nice... Time to grind a bit.

[Rikter]

8F? Only slightly worse then a normal random battle.

Wow all it took was a few Silent Selenes and a Master Spark...

Wish I knew it would be that easy back on F7.

[Serela]

Oh god. 20F random encounters are not very nice... Time to grind a bit.

20F random encounters also give about 7~12k skp and 20~52k exp. Even if you only last a battle or two up there, its completely worth it.

[yoshicookiezeus]

20F random encounters also give about 7~12k skp and 20~52k exp. Even if you only last a battle or two up there, its completely worth it.

I see what you mean. Right now, my strategy consists of going up to floor 20, MASTER SPARKing the first enemy that appears (cleaning up with Patchy,

Spoiler:

Flandre

, and

Spoiler:

Rinnosuke

as needed), and then going back to Gensokyo to refill Marisa's SP. It still has me leveling up far faster than grinding on floor 19 would.

But then there are the few enemies that don't die in one turn... The axe dwarves and doll trios just completely obliterate me, and the demons is just a matter of hoping that they don't decide to wipe my party before I can defeat them.

[Kanako Yasaka]

It's REALLY depressing how people who started after me are farther than me. >_>

Also, I can get to Mr. Man's last elemental form but I always get wreck'd by sealing slash.

EDIT: Reimu is level 105.

[Serela]

EDIT: Reimu is level 105.

you haven't won yet what

Tanks and defense buffs. Also, make sure your tanks have a Shuttle Body or Star of Elendil or Ribbon or something so status effects don't hit them.

[Barrakketh]

8F? Only slightly worse then a normal random battle.

9F is what you have to worry about.  With Reimu at 35 she was still able to one-shot anyone with PDLC99MW Megawatt Linear Gun if they weren't buffed.  That includes Remi, Meiling, and

Spoiler:

Yuugi

.

When does

Spoiler:

Komachi

stop being useless for tanking?

[Kanako Yasaka]

I suck at this type of game. :toot:

I'm honestly way way way way better at Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne than this.

I'll try that, though. I always get really fucking close to beating him. >_> Well. Kind of.

[Serela]

When does

Spoiler:

Komachi

stop being useless for tanking?

She doesn't get 1shotted, but she can't just stay out forever like a normal tank because everything will hurt her severely. Boosting her affinities helps.

[Rikter]

Oops...

I accidentally got the last Frog and my Party is only around level 32...

I'm dead aren't I?

EDIT: I was killed ruthlessly.

[Barrakketh]

Oops...

I accidentally got the last Frog and my Party is only around level 32...

I'm dead aren't I?

EDIT: I was killed ruthlessly.

I beat her around 32 but it was really, really close.  I had four people left

EDIT: Beat

Spoiler:

Nitori

.  PAR finally landing somewhat consistently near the end of the battle helped immensely, as were the speed debuffs when they would actually stick (which wasn't often).  Compared to the attempt before the last one it was a great improvement since I only lost one person to an Extending Arm.  I lost two important characters to two back-to-back Extending Arms before I could even act last time

All that's left on 9F for me to take out is the boss, but I want her drop so I might try grinding a little bit.  I tried it just for fun last night and she summoned three of those damned SP draining mages.  I got her down to wear she was using Grand Patriot's Elixir and Mind Starmine (ouch) but failed there.  I'm considering bringing Rumia along on the next attempt for Demarcation since those MND debuffs in particular are a pain.

[Kanako Yasaka]

She's really easy.

She never got an attack out on me.

Just spam Royal Flare.

[Barrakketh]

I guess grinding wasn't needed:





Tough fight doing it that way, though.

[MysTeariousYukari]

The boss from the last frog has sumthin like 128k HP, which I found out in the original TH Labyrinth thread. That boss apperently is weak, dmg wise. I would reccomend on avoiding that boss until you can handle 9F trash pretty well. This will make the fight much easier. If you want you can fight the boss now, but I merely reccomend avoiding it for a bit.

[Rikter]

The boss from the last frog has sumthin like 128k HP, which I found out in the original TH Labyrinth thread. That boss apperently is weak, dmg wise. I would reccomend on avoiding that boss until you can handle 9F trash pretty well. This will make the fight much easier. If you want you can fight the boss now, but I merely reccomend avoiding it for a bit.

F9 trash was weak as soon as I came to the floor. I also fought the F7-9 Bosses final encounter it actually looks fairly manageable unlike the boss from the Frog.

[Barrakketh]

The boss from the last frog has sumthin like 128k HP, which I found out in the original TH Labyrinth thread. That boss apperently is weak, dmg wise. I would reccomend on avoiding that boss until you can handle 9F trash pretty well. This will make the fight much easier. If you want you can fight the boss now, but I merely reccomend avoiding it for a bit.

The Japanese wiki has her at 188k.  Her damage output isn't low, either.  Depending on your non-tanks that are currently active either her CLD or NTR row attacks will probably 1HKO them and deal heavy damage to your tanks.  Depending on your level her NTR single attack will probably be able to 1HKO everyone but Meiling, and when I first fought her Meiling died in one hit, too.

I was also unfortunate enough to have her paralyze my entire party the first time I fought her, so the second time around I equipped some PAR resistance items.  She also has the same attack that

Spoiler:

Reisen's

mage minions have that drains your SP and can cause PAR.

Royal Flare spam might help, but Patchy is all but guaranteed to die to the first Mishaguji-sama that the boss uses.

[Kanako Yasaka]

Really close but it wasn't enough.

He cheapshotted Suwako REALLY early in the battle. 8|

[Rikter]

Well I got

Spoiler:

Komachi

guess I should go after

Spoiler:

Nitori or Suwako

now. Which one is easier?

[yoshicookiezeus]

Reimu level 137. It seems like I have reached the point where I can actually start exploring floor 20 without having to MASTER SPARK everything and go back to Gensokyo for resting... Of course, discovering

Spoiler:

Yukari's

ability to essentially give everyone an extra turn helps a lot. And for when I finally find the boss, I have around 2.2M unused skillpoints to allocate.

[Serela]

Reimu level 137. It seems like I have reached the point where I can actually start exploring floor 20 without having to MASTER SPARK everything and go back to Gensokyo for resting... Of course, discovering

Spoiler:

Yukari's

ability to essentially give everyone an extra turn helps a lot. And for when I finally find the boss, I have around 2.2M unused skillpoints to allocate.

Level 137? Get to the final boss already! You should be able to win by now XD

[Barrakketh]

What level should I be before I could realistically take down

Spoiler:

Sanae's Foe

?

Well I got

Spoiler:

Komachi

guess I should go after

Spoiler:

Nitori or Suwako

now. Which one is easier?

Nitori might be easier is if your tanks can handle her big nuke.  I had actually gotten the other first, though.

[Kanako Yasaka]

I'm getting somewhat pissed.

Fucking SoHD