If there's anything these last few posts seem to be pointing out, it's that everything about this setup is apparently a WIFOM. Seriously why is so much of this game setup discussion and so little of it actual hunting?
Just about any action at all can be used as WIFOM. The definition of WIFOM is when someone says "To take course X would advantage me if I were scum, but I didn't take that action, so I must be town." This argument opens the way for scum to take actions that put themselves at a mild apparent disadvantage, but to compensate for that with the townies' disproportionate pro-town read from that. What's scummy is when people attempt to provoke that disproportionate pro-town read, whether on their own behalf or for another's.
One thing I will say is this:Besides the ego trip you seem to be going through by saying scum is making a deliberate effort to kill you, giving them the opportunity to determine the results seems somewhat absurd. Beyond other things, it would make K4U a guaranteed Townie if the claim is true - because if scum setting the days is normal, another role that can change it back to normal is almost invariably Town.
Serp's 'I can't say anything to defend myself' is anti-Town. Townies don't want to die so they would defend themselves to the end. End of discussion.
Firstly, unless we
know that scum are manipulating the Hime Star, we don't
know that K4u's ability works in opposition to it. Secondly, there's no reason why scum are any less likely to end up with a role on their team that can manipulate the Hime Star. It'd be basically like giving them a public dayvig or a tracker or any other publicly verifiable role.
As for letting myself die being anti-town, that's not necessarily true. If I were to kill UK, then I'd probably die tomorrow, quite likely to somebody I consider to be scummier than her. I think that she has better odds of surviving to LyLo than I do, and I want it to be proven that my advice has been given from a townie perspective.
There are too many folks saying that strategy is bad for you all to be scum, but all you dupes ought to keep in mind that each day isn't a whole new game. You're playing to stop scum from winning their victory condition. Keep in mind how many heads they can possibly have. Act to keep that number below their win condition. Be willing to forfeit a battle if it'll win you the war - figuratively and literally speaking. A tactic that seems to benefit the town in the short term (i.e. having untested combatants fight each other rather than scum) can make you lose in the long term (i.e. when you're put in pseudo-LyLo by scum potentially having claimed four heads). Kilga put it best:
1 vs. 1 should still be Alex vs. Ciato to keep the number of living victors down and individuals that are not Alex and Ciato need to grow a pair instead of worrying about "what if we make the wrong decision?
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Serp less so. If UK is too outgoing with her opinions, Serp is far too damn extrovertive with his. I get the feeling he isn't trying to get noticed. He isn't TRYING to get his points out, just make them look unsuspicious. It may be a mix of things holding him up rather than actual planning, but I can actually see this happening.
Have you been reading the game, Chaore? Had I only voiced an opinion on who should fight who and who should end up dying, I would certainly still be alive by tomorrow. The whole "case" on me has come from people thinking that my strategizing is scummy. I still put it out there because I saw getting the word out as being more important than personally surviving to the endgame. (And note, Rou, that if I were using
that as an argument for my towniness, that would be WIFOM.)
