Black Stories ~ Touhou Edition - Case 20: Down to the bottom of Misty Lake!

[Thaws]

Did Rumia try to eat Shou?

YES

[MysTeariousYukari]

Hm... I'm gonna take a guess at what happened:

Shou was flying over the lake, holding her Pagoda, when Rumia showed up and tried to eat Shou. Not noticing Rumia until she was close, Shou was rather surprised and dropped her Pagoda out of sheer surprise and fear. She then dove into the lake below to get the Pagoda back

<Sakana> Changed that to aqua for readability ^^

[Pesco]

Shou didn't see Rumia coming to bite her, causing the surprise that made her drop the pagoda.

I'm sure the details have all been found but we haven't put it all together yet.

Cut: better said like that.

[axman36]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we have all the details, unless there's just something else out there about her being startled.

But yeah, if not, then I think we have the theory down.

[Thaws]

Shou was flying over the lake, holding her Pagoda, when Rumia showed up and tried to eat Shou. Not noticing Rumia until she was close, Shou was rather surprised and dropped her Pagoda out of sheer surprise and fear. She then dove into the lake below to get the Pagoda back

YES, except the underlined sentence. She did not drop it out of sheer surprise.

[Pesco]

Rumia bit Shou's hand?

Please make a new topic for the next riddle.

[Dead Princess Sakana]

I'll give a little hint: Try to think from Shou's perspective.

Please make a new topic for the next riddle.

Will be done. Yay for Black Stories Part II (^_^)/

[Pesco]

Did Shou try to defend herself by reasoning with Rumia?

Did Rumia say anything other than that she was hungry and 'Is that so?'?

[axman36]

Did Shou attempt to defend herself against Rumia's attack?

If so, was that attempt the reason why she dropped her Pagoda?

[Thaws]

Rumia bit Shou's hand?

NO

Did Shou try to defend herself by reasoning with Rumia?

NO

Did Rumia say anything other than that she was hungry and 'Is that so?'?

WRONG ASSUMPTION, she never said she was hungry verbally. Anyways, she only said 'Is that so?'.

Did Shou attempt to defend herself against Rumia's attack?

YES

If so, was that attempt the reason why she dropped her Pagoda?

YES

[axman36]

Did she drop her Pagoda to free her hand to fire bullets back at Rumia?

Did she swing her Pagoda at Rumia, lost grip of it, and then dropped it?

Did she throw her Pagoda?

[Thaws]

Did she drop her Pagoda to free her hand to fire bullets back at Rumia?

NO

Did she swing her Pagoda at Rumia, lost grip of it, and then dropped it?

NO

Did she throw her Pagoda?

NO

As Sakana said, it'd help if you try to imagine what would you have done if you were the one flying over Misty Lake, holding the Pagoda, then...

[axman36]

Did she try to shield herself from Rumia with her pagoda?

If not, did Shou use the pagoda in any way to defend herself?

[Thaws]

Did she try to shield herself from Rumia with her pagoda?

NO

If not, did Shou use the pagoda in any way to defend herself?

YES

Try summarizing facts, there's an important fact that has been discovered already but is not being considered.

[Prody]

Modifying on the previous theory a little:

Shou was flying over the lake, then Rumia attacked her due to the light of the Pagoda. To prevent further conflict, she dropped it. She then dove into the lake below to get the Pagoda back.

[Thaws]

Shou was flying over the lake, then Rumia attacked her due to the light of the Pagoda. To prevent further conflict, she dropped it. She then dove into the lake below to get the Pagoda back.

NO. Nice theory though.

[Pesco]

Did Shou willingly drop the pagoda?

[Thaws]

Did Shou willingly drop the pagoda?

NO

[Pesco]

Did she drop the Pagoda by accident?

NO

Contradicts dropping the pagoda willingly.

[Thaws]

Contradicts dropping the pagoda willingly.

I'm really sorry for the misleading...

I don't know if anyone would still be interested in this after my misleading clue that was not corrected for a few days, but just to make things clear, the whole thing was:
Shou did something in response to Rumia's attack, that action directly caused her to drop the Pagoda. She did not want the Pagoda to drop.

[axman36]

Oh don't worry. Makes things more clearer for me and sparks my interests up even more! Aside from that it's clear the main issue we're missing here is the action Shou took to defend herself against Rumia's attack that caused her pagoda to fall without her wanting it to do so as the final detail.

Did her attempt of defense require her to have her hand freed?

[Thaws]

Did her attempt of defense require her to have her hand freed?

NO. Shou thought she could perform the action without dropping the pagoda.

[Pesco]

Unlikely, but did Shou try to activate the pagoda's powers?

Did Shou declare a spell?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

I'll repeat my hint from before, since it seems this one is really hard: Take Shou's perspective. How did the whole situation appear to her? What did she see?

(Sorry if that's too strong of a hint Thaws, but it seems our poor players are slowly getting confused, for good reasons.)

[Prody]

Did Rumia's darkness somehow have a very important role in all of this?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

I'll take over for a moment:

Unlikely, but did Shou try to activate the pagoda's powers?

No

Did Shou declare a spell?

No. And that's the point. Keep at it.

Did Rumia's darkness somehow have a very important role in all of this?

YES

[axman36]

... Was Shou going to declare a spell?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

... Was Shou going to declare a spell?

NO

[Pesco]

Did Rumia render all Shou could see in darkness?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Did Rumia render all Shou could see in darkness?

NO. You had the following facts before: It was not night, so assume bright daylight. Rumia was in her ball of darkness.