GUYZ I DUN GET IT Y CANT I 1CC PCB NORMUL

[Drake]

DURRRRRRRRRR

ITS TOO HARD

IM NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT


derpa derp derp derp

This is a 1cc of PCB Normal with SakuyaA. This is the PCB equivalent of what I had done with MoF a while back. In nearly every boss pattern I either bomb or die, no matter how trivial. If I didn't, it just means that the pattern was so ridiculously easy that I just forgot. The bomb mechanics are different in that you don't use Power to bomb, so you are slightly more limited than with MoF, which hands you bombs on a silver platter. Instead, Sakuya's default four bombs are taken advantage of.

Now, I don't recommend the use of SakuyaA, because of a few things. Her four bombs do encourage bombspam, and her homing shots spoil you to not memorize stages. This is a bad thing. Her focus speed is too fast, her unfocused speed is too slow and her hitbox is gigantic. Yes, the replay showcases me bombing everything, but it's only to prove that 1ccing Normal is really, really easy if you truly want to beat it.

If you cannot do any better than this replay during a serious run, I feel sorry for you.

[Chaore]

I can't tell if your paragraph is serious or not. :V

[Bananamatic]

you bomb too much

[Suikama]

This needs to be recorded, uploaded, and annotated


So I can show it to my friends who can't clear easy :V

[Bananamatic]

This needs to be recorded, uploaded, and annotated

Everyone mark this as TAS.

[Drake]

I can't tell if your paragraph is serious or not. :V

Totally serious. SakuyaA is a terrible character to use. SakuyaB's damage output is better even if it loses homing but is still bad. ReimuA's homing is even worse, but the focus speed, hitbox, deathbomb time etc somewhat make up for it. The only three I would ever suggest seriously playing are ReimuB and MarisaA/B. If anything, use Sakuya once you're proficient at using more straightforward characters and are experienced enough that she won't spoil you silly.

Also I'm planning to maybe LP it, so yeah.

[nintendonut888]

Marisa B is also a bad choice, since other than her good bombs she is inferior in every way to Marisa A, and once you reach a certain point you should be able to end any spell card with one bomb regardless of who uses it. So basically yeah, only use Reimu B or Marisa A, or Sakuya B if you're a scorerunner.

[Suikama]

ReimuB 

[yoshicookiezeus]

I like how you even broke a border against that one of Alice's nonspells that ends before the bullets can even reach you.

[Heartbeam]

hitbox is gigantic

Damn it, I want proof!  If you mean larger of the two hitbox sizes for PCB then that's suitable, but I swear in a previous post you've hailed her hitbox as the largest which I can't bring myself to believe.  A weak point to bring up, but although larger hitboxes aren't appreciated it isn't as painful compared to recent games.

Well okay, out of two it's the largest but the post to me implied out of a possible three choices.

[nintendonut888]

This is true. PCB is the last game in which I can tolerate using anyone other than Reimu, because the hitbox sizes are a lot less crippling. Still, Sakuya's ridiculous focus speed makes it seem larger than it really is.

[Drake]

I am implying it's the biggest out of the three. Of course, I have no proof and Donut may be right in that it's just her focus speed.

However, you mentioning this again makes me want to clear it up. And I can. So I will.

[Sieron]

huzzah! I'm not the only one who gets hit.  :V

but anywho, you've made me want to check if I can 1cc normal PCB yet.

[AlexX Unlimited]

Marisa B is also a bad choice, since other than her good bombs she is inferior in every way to Marisa A[...]

She deals almost double damage to Yuyuko. Marisa A can't do that. =V Also complaining about hitbox sizes is a weak excuse.

Anyway, I recall I did something like this when I first gave Sakuya a try (can't remember if it was A or B), but quickly decided I didn't really want to use her, even if she could probably bombspam my way to my first 1CC (since apparently doing so in IN doesn't count).

[Hideki]

Wow.  Uh,  I can't 1cc any of the games in anything past easy, so uh, yeah.  PCB is the first game I'm attempting to 1cc normal, and I can get to Yuyuko, but then I die. (using Reimu B)

[nintendonut888]

She deals almost double damage to Yuyuko. Marisa A can't do that. =V Also complaining about hitbox sizes is a weak excuse.[/s

One advantage. One. And Marisa A can do a similar thing since unfocusing under Yuyuko deals extra damage.

Also hitbox sizes are quite a legitimate complaint when you do maneuvers that need a small hitbox.

[AlexX Unlimited]

One advantage. One. And Marisa A can do a similar thing since unfocusing under Yuyuko deals extra damage.

I thought I was quite clearly poking fun at you with a technicality, but I guess it wasn't as obvious as I was hoping... =V

Also hitbox sizes are quite a legitimate complaint when you do maneuvers that need a small hitbox.

Also a poking fun comment, though its hardly impossible to 1CC SA/UFO lunatic with someone not named Reimu (heck, most did it with Sanae long before Reimu due to broken-ness).

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

This topic made me want to try to unlock Extra for one of the 2 shottypes I didn't have it for. So I selected ReimuA Normal and still game overed.

Some almost a Lunatic I am. Gotten close on 3 Lunatics, have a chance at 4 of them, yet I can still fail this particular game on Normal.

[Naut]

PCB is the last game in which I can tolerate using anyone other than Reimu...

Reimu spoils you too much, stop using her. You'll thank yourself when you finally try her again after a while.

[Sieron]

Reimu spoils you too much, stop using her. You'll thank yourself when you finally try her again after a while.

Quoted for truth.

She tend to be my fallback when my pride has been shattered and I want revenge/confidence.

[nintendonut888]

Reimu spoils you too much, stop using her. You'll thank yourself when you finally try her again after a while.

But she also has the best shot types for me. >.> As Baity said, I'm a forward shot type specialist. In my eyes, she has both the superior hitbox and the superior shot types, so why would I ever use anyone else outside of dialogue? And for the record, I've 1cc'd IN lunatic with the Scarlet Team, but it was very close and I felt limited the whole way through.

[Lybydose]

This topic made me want to try to unlock Extra for one of the 2 shottypes I didn't have it for. So I selected ReimuA Normal

This, except I did it no deaths  :V  Three bombs used; one on Lunasa's 3rd non-card, one on the stage 6 opener for MASS POINT ITEMS, and one on Youmu's st6 card.

[AlexX Unlimited]

And for the record, I've 1cc'd IN lunatic with the Scarlet Team, but it was very close and I felt limited the whole way through.

Its because you've been playing purely border team for an eternity.

When I played Border team after using Neitherworld team so much I felt handicapped since I couldn't get anything good from shotgunnning bosses with no more Yuyuko, and I actually had to deal with stage enemies since I could no longer kill them all right when they appeared thanks to proper use of Youmu. Even the extra deathbomb time meant nothing since I already learned to do it based on Neitherworld team's timer (so I never needed the extra window).

[Silent Harmony]

If you cannot do any better than this replay during a serious run, I feel sorry for you.

*ragequits for the nth time*

You know what, go right on ahead. >_>



(Maybe in the morning I'll forget this post and play with a clear head again...)

[Tengukami]

I definitely prefer Ghost Team for IN, even if I only 1cc'd it using Border Team. It's just more fun. Beating the game isn't the one and only point to playing.

[Naut]

As Baity said, I'm a forward shot type specialist.

Marisa is not forward enough? Most games where Marisa uses her lasers has a shot type more forward focused than Reimu.

so why would I ever use anyone else outside of dialogue?

And for the record, I've 1cc'd IN lunatic with the Scarlet Team, but it was very close and I felt limited the whole way through.

You answered your own question!

It's just more fun. Beating the game isn't the one and only point to playing.

Very this.

[Helion]

I have scraped an IN Normal 1cc with the Border team, now I'm playing around with the other ones in Hard. The result: Netherworld makes stages a breeze and bosses a nightmare. Scarlet has great damage but it doesn't overall suit me. Magic makes stages an outright nightmare. So basically it's about using the Border team, which I'm used to and make stages a whole lot more difficult when I want to focus, or using the Netherworld and running into bullets while doing bosses unfocused, to compensate for Yuyuko's crippling damage output.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Focus to dodge, unfocus to shoot. The reverse shot thing doesn't bother me like that.

[Kilgamayan]

Doing it this mechanically seems to defeat the purpose.

What goal is accomplished here? Where is the feat (or even the enjoyment) in "I just beat a difficulty that literally anyone can beat by following this explicit set of instructions someone else wrote in order to unlock a stage I have no chance in hell of coming close to finishing because I only know how to follow bombing formulas and am not very good at actually playing the game"?

If I am missing something very key, please do tell me, because I'm genuinely confused.

[Helion]

Focus to dodge, unfocus to shoot. The reverse shot thing doesn't bother me like that.

You don't cure "being bad at Touhou" this easy  :V