Author Topic: Is Mima more of an American thing? (Read 23439 times)

warpshadow · « **on:** December 29, 2009, 12:19:52 AM »

Every so often I (and probably you too) hear the cry for ZUN to bring back some of the older characters. In fact I hear it quite a bit. However when I see things like this http://www.gensokyo.org/thvote6/results_char_en.html it makes me wonder when a character with no in game dialogue like Momiji is more popular than Mima, Shinki and Yumemi combined. It made me wonder a bit if the whole "bring back Mima" thing is more of an English Touhou fan thing or if it is even just trolling.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:31:42 AM »

Every single Nicovideo...video that features her has comments screaming "MIMA-SAMA" too, so I doubt it.

Kuma · « **Reply #2 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:37:23 AM »

Mima is universal. Mima is in the air, in the trees, the ground, and inall of us. Mima is everything, and yet she is nothing. Mima plays Merlin's trumpet.

Drake · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:39:44 AM »

I never thought so. Just look at what they did for Deified Submarine Palace.

warpshadow · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:04:55 AM »

Okay my mistake. I guess it's more of a meme than anything else, and we all know how much Touhou fans love memes.

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:06:32 AM »

Mima seems bigger than she is because her fans are much, much louder (and more obnoxious as a result) than any other character's fans.

Moerin · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:13:12 AM »

It's the classic case of a very vocal minority drowning out a silent majority, really. Like Kilga said, her fans are, um, a lot louder than those who dislike her, or even those who are just neutral to her, and as such it gives off a disproportionate image of how popular she really is~

...Yumemi's better anyway grumble-grumble...

Cadmas · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:23:22 AM »

Those polls are so weird to me because Reimu is always at the top.
In what other series is the main character ever at the top?

But I don't think Mima coming back is an American thing.
She'll probably come back in some side game or Phantasmagoria.

Chaore · « **Reply #8 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:29:24 AM »

Quote from: Cadmas on December 29, 2009, 01:23:22 AM

Those polls are so weird to me because Reimu is always at the top.
In what other series is the main character ever at the top?

But I don't think Mima coming back is an American thing.
She'll probably come back in some side game or Phantasmagoria.

I'd totally attribute that to her increased coverage in the series. I mean, She has the most screen time, Even more than Marisa, including PC-98. She theoretically has more chances to redeem herself in eyes of fans than other characters.

Sadly not. Its probably because she actually had a shot type in a few games, so people have the misinformed opinion shes more important than the boss characters who hardly reappear.

Edit: Actually, The shot-type appearing characters seem to be at the top, If you look at it...

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #9 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:31:46 AM »

Quote from: Cadmas on December 29, 2009, 01:23:22 AM

Those polls are so weird to me because Reimu is always at the top.
In what other series is the main character ever at the top?

Actually, I believe the Final Fantasy games tend to be this way.

Aside from maybe X.

Kuma · « **Reply #10 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:44:21 AM »

Isn't the asshole rival usualy the most popular? Even in touhou, more people seem to like Marisa more than Reimu...

RainfallYoshi · « **Reply #11 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:00:00 AM »

Quote from: FagKuma on December 29, 2009, 01:44:21 AM

Isn't the asshole rival usualy the most popular? Even in touhou, more people seem to like Marisa more than Reimu...

Sephiroth has enough fanboys willing to give him anal sex to prove this theory.

Drake · « **Reply #12 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:09:45 AM »

But Sephiroth isn't really an asshole asshole. Not the same as Mima.

Mima screws around with Reimu because it's hilarious and she has nothing better to do, being dead.

Cadmas · « **Reply #13 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:10:43 AM »

I usually don't let fans ruin something for me, but FF7 and Uchiha Sasuke fans really earn my ire.

By now, I think Mima is in the underworld. Anyone else think so?

Kuma · « **Reply #14 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:16:10 AM »

No, she's chillin' at the shrine with Genji. ZUN said so, don't bother him about it.

Rikter · « **Reply #15 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:22:47 AM »

Quote from: FagKuma on December 29, 2009, 02:16:10 AM

No, she's chillin' at the shrine with Genji. ZUN said so, don't bother him about it.

Where did you read/see/hear this info?

Also Mima fans are nowhere near as dumb (Or fun to bother) as the Sephiroth fans.

Cadmas · « **Reply #16 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:24:50 AM »

Quote from: Rikter on December 29, 2009, 02:22:47 AM

Where did you read/see/hear this info?

Probably from one of those ZUN interviews nobody but everybody seems to read.

Drake · « **Reply #17 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:42:41 AM »

Genji is canon either:
-Behind a mountain; Reimu disowned him because she learned to fly
-Soup

Mima is either:
-Chillin'
-Even more dead

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:49:18 AM »

Genji is living in the pond behind the shrine, ZUN never said anything about Mima.

But yeah, I sort of see what the Mima fans are going for. After all, I'm not exactly quiet about my fanboyism for Gengetsu either, since there are so few other fans of her. The thing is, there are enough Mima fans who think they have to be overly vocal for their fanboyism so that they all gather in groups and annoy the hell out of everyone.

shadowbringer · « **Reply #19 on:** December 29, 2009, 03:32:11 AM »

Quote from: warpshadow on December 29, 2009, 12:19:52 AM

Every so often I (and probably you too) hear the cry for ZUN to bring back some of the older characters. In fact I hear it quite a bit. However when I see things like this http://www.gensokyo.org/thvote6/results_char_en.html it makes me wonder when a character with no in game dialogue like Momiji is more popular than Mima, Shinki and Yumemi combined. It made me wonder a bit if the whole "bring back Mima" thing is more of an English Touhou fan thing or if it is even just trolling.

usually, Windows games seem to be more popular than their PC-98 counterparts.

Quote from: Karen Yawata~ on December 29, 2009, 01:13:12 AM

It's the classic case of a very vocal minority drowning out a silent majority, really. Like Kilga said, her fans are, um, a lot louder than those who dislike her, or even those who are just neutral to her, and as such it gives off a disproportionate image of how popular she really is~

...Yumemi's better anyway grumble-grumble...

while it's true that her absence is missed with such intensity, I'll ignore further attempts to aggravate fans of Mima, such as myself. In fact, such attempts only serve to put the "Mima fans are retarded" meme that some people try to establish, into practice against *their* favorite characters.

Moerin · « **Reply #20 on:** December 29, 2009, 03:47:31 AM »

Oi. I wasn't trying to aggravate anyone, I was merely stating the facts. I actually quite like Mima, for one thing. Please refrain from such accusations in the future.

Ahem~

Personally, though, I'm not really sure if she'll ever show up again. I mean, it'd be a nice surprise, but it's not something I hold out hope for. If she ever DID return, it'd likely by in a Phantasmagoria game, or in the "final" Touhou game maybe.

And yes, Genji is in a pond behind the shrine. It was in a ZUN interview, if I remember right.

mew77 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 29, 2009, 04:42:55 AM »

Quote from: PrismYoshi on December 29, 2009, 02:00:00 AM

Sephiroth has enough fanboys willing to give him anal sex to prove this theory.

...

Not sure how to respond to that..it's just too freaky.

Quote from: Cadmas on December 29, 2009, 02:10:43 AM

I usually don't let fans ruin something for me, but FF7 and Uchiha Sasuke fans really earn my ire.

Agreed with Cadmas on both accounts. frankly naruto and Yugi oh have spawned some crazy fanbase behaviour... And don't evenget me started on Yowie. (I can't as my friend has informed me that I shall never know what it is to preserve my sanity. This friend of mine has had his mind blown by whatever-it-is' craziness)

For now, my sanity remains intact

♛ Apher-Forte · « **Reply #22 on:** December 29, 2009, 04:45:29 AM »

>> Sanae

>>4th place

SAGE THIS SHIT

see, this is why polls like these hurt my feelings.
To be honest with you, the crowd of Naruto in general just irks me, but then again...

We are only people.

Moerin · « **Reply #23 on:** December 29, 2009, 04:50:01 AM »

Quote from: mew77 on December 29, 2009, 04:42:55 AM

And don't evenget me started on Yowie. (I can't as my friend has informed me that I shall never know what it is to preserve my sanity. This friend of mine has had his mind blown by whatever-it-is' craziness)

For now, my sanity remains intact

...You mean yaoi, right? That just refers to homosexual relations between men in anime/manga, really. Most commonly used as the genre name for gay porn, but often simply used as a term for shipping, etc. (For example, a Bleach fan may have a yaoi ship of, say, HanataroxUryu or something).

Ahem. But I don't want to bore you with details about my silly Bleach yaoi ship.

And yes, the Sephiroth thing is true. I've known a few otherwise straight fanboys who want to do him. No idea why, but...

mew77 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 29, 2009, 04:59:12 AM »

Oh that clears things up...hearing this friend of mine speak of horrible things it had sounded like a homosexual dating sim.

but I see it is far worse than i thought and to now hear that the fans for that do shipping (the creepy fanfic version). I mean touhou doujins have ships to a degree, but usually they make sense..and the single gender polulation greatly reduces the yaoi ships from sailing.

I jsut thought of a song to describe this insanity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V0VTlrCzW8&feature=related The clips may not fit but the song does.

Bias Bus · « **Reply #25 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:26:17 AM »

I am a bonefied Shinkifag and would love to see the elegant demon goddess return, as well as the other Makai residents as well (because I like them just as much as I do Shinki). However, I know it's not going to happen anytime soon, I would have liked it if ZUN gave us a bit more referance toward Shinki than just an 'lol Byakuren has the same spellcard as Shinki', but I'm not one to complain, if Makai exists then Shinki must still be out there as well, I suppose...

Quote from: mew77 on December 29, 2009, 04:59:12 AM

the single gender polulation greatly reduces the yaoi ships from sailing.

I wouldn't be so sure of that buddy...

While Yaoi is rather uncommon in Touhou given we only have like a handful of males to work with, but we do have some; Rinnosuke, Genji, Youki, Unzan, Giant Catfish, Lord Tenma, Lord Nai, Myouren, and Mr. Kirisame to name a few.

So even with the 98.9% female cast, there's an oppurtunity for the Yaoi fans, and even us Hetero fans, to try their hand at something, albeit it's a limited selection.

Drake · « **Reply #26 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:54:12 AM »

Actually, I think the limited amount of men gives off a heavy magnetism to ship gay couples.

VIVItheFujoshi · « **Reply #27 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:05:16 AM »

Quote from: Drake on December 29, 2009, 05:54:12 AM

Actually, I think the limited amount of men gives off a heavy magnetism to ship gay couples.

that, and the few females who are Touhou fans...because "we the fujoshis" (XD) have lot of imagination when make pairings and plots for make it so-so possible. the combination yaoi fan-Touhou fan is rare, and the combi with artistic capabilities is a lot more eerie. (tra-la-la n_n)

Bias Bus · « **Reply #28 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:50:56 AM »

Quote from: VIVI on December 29, 2009, 06:05:16 AM

the combination yaoi fan-Touhou fan is rare, and the combi with artistic capabilities is a lot more eerie. (tra-la-la n_n)

These eyes...they see what you did there...

Recon 5 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:52:37 AM »

Mima will return after ZUN consumes the strongest beer in the history of the world. Discuss.