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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #480 on: January 20, 2010, 05:53:11 PM »
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #481 on: January 20, 2010, 07:10:27 PM »
I still think that SA's stage difficulty is totally off.

Stage One: 2 deaths
Stage Two: 1 death
Stage Three: 1 death
Stage Four: 1 death = first continue, then 1 death
Stage Five: ~ 20 continues
Stage Six: 3 continues


Blah, reunlocked lunatic stage practice for SA, anyways, so I shouldn't complain.  :V
Now to do it with the other shottypes besides ReimuB...
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #482 on: January 20, 2010, 11:11:14 PM »
SA is dumb
failed a 1cc....on NORMAL
why is atomic fusion harder than the lunatic version
mega flare=giga flare=peta flare
and Hell and Heaven Meltdown is harder than Tokamak.

this game is worse than all of the non reimuA shottypes combined

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #483 on: January 20, 2010, 11:47:08 PM »
What shottype were you using.

Just easily did a 3 death run with ReimuA on Normal. 2 deaths due to low power and one due to messing up lolsafeheight Fixed Star. All deaths were on stage 6, with 2 of those being on Utsuho.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #484 on: January 20, 2010, 11:54:08 PM »
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #485 on: January 20, 2010, 11:59:51 PM »
Wow, the best run I've ever had of IN extra seems so anticlimatic after a complete brainfart during Hourai Doll. Utterly horrible mistake to make after such a good run. If Fujiyama Volcano hadn't *just* clipped me earlier, I would have been utterly furious at being denied my first 13-card clear of the stage (considering my Imperishable Shooting history is 2/35, I doubt I would pull it off FTW).
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #486 on: January 21, 2010, 12:02:23 AM »
That was the last one I did normal with. I ended with 0 lives left, and I don't remember the bombs. Hardest Satori fight as well.

Edit: Just did another Normal one with her. Ended with 1 spare life due to idiotic deaths in several spots, including 2 on Satori's last card, midboss Orin's first nonspell, Vengeful Cannibal Spirit is easier than the Normal version is, died to Orin's last nonspell with bombs in stock. Didn't even save the replay as the score was lower than the one I finished with no spare lives on.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 12:53:23 AM by Enigma »

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #487 on: January 21, 2010, 01:09:02 AM »
Argh, my camera isn't cooperating with me. I'm trying to record my PCB Extra clear for Youtube, but the Ran fight by itself is already pushing the limits of my camera (it can only record up to 9 minutes). I want to say the Ran fight will fit into that threshold, but just barely. However, my camera for some reason ran out of memory 30 seconds earlier than it should. I want to make a clean transition between videos (stage portion vs. Ran), but I was forced to shift the boundary between videos toward the end of Ran's first spell. I'd rather not do that, though my options to fix the problem are limited. Especially since my camera's battery has to recharge too...

why is atomic fusion harder than the lunatic version
I can't vouch for the Lunatic version, but Excursion is definitely harder than Fusion. Even just looking at it, I don't think Lunatic<Normal.
mega flare=giga flare=peta flare
I'm inclined to agree with this. Each one is just a faster version of the last, and they otherwise can be approached in the same way.
and Hell and Heaven Meltdown is harder than Tokamak.
I'm willing to bet the different trajectories threw you off. In my experience, the two cannot be approached the same way.
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #488 on: January 21, 2010, 02:04:49 AM »
Hey, folks, did you know that on Yukari's final, the familiars stop whenever you die or bomb? Did you know that all the bullets on the screen then head off in whatever direction they would go and the attack continues from where it left off? Did you know that during that time, the timer stops counting down?

Well, I didn't, until I got there 3/2 and gameovered at 28 seconds left.
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #489 on: January 21, 2010, 02:35:01 AM »
Spent about an hour grinding MoF Stage 4, and what do I have to show for it?

My record on Saruta Cross is now 11/52, at least I captured that a few more times.

Still no captures on Storm Day, Peerless Wind God, or Terukuni Throughout the World, and I got close on those first 2 at least 3 times.

Also, you do know any combination of 5 deaths/bombs is enough to clear the card if you just stay in the middle, right? Or some dodging of course.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 02:37:35 AM by Enigma »

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #490 on: January 21, 2010, 02:52:27 AM »
I got there 3/2 and gameovered at 28 seconds left.
But that's a minimum of 11 "free" waves you had (if you were using Marisa - 14 if Reimu, 17 if Sakuya) for a 5-wave attack!

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #491 on: January 21, 2010, 04:16:16 AM »
All of my previous skill at Touhou seems to have completely evaporated, because now I suddenly can't beat SA stage 1 with any regularity (Normal)

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #492 on: January 21, 2010, 05:21:58 AM »
UNR gives you a solid way to move through with no room to flail around, it basically lays out a path for you. The blue bullets are just as dense as on Normal.

The Normal version shoots only one sun wave which gives you much more room, making you hit Utsuho less and possibly go completely off direction.

I've timed out the Lunatic version, but never capped the Normal one.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 05:27:16 AM by Bananamatic »

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #493 on: January 21, 2010, 06:06:28 AM »
UNR gives you a solid way to move through with no room to flail around, it basically lays out a path for you. The blue bullets are just as dense as on Normal.

The Normal version shoots only one sun wave which gives you much more room, making you hit Utsuho less and possibly go completely off direction.

I've timed out the Lunatic version, but never capped the Normal one.
"Flail around"? Well there's your problem. You have more time to get out of the way of each sun on Normal, and you should still be moving to the same spots for misdirecting the suns. And by the way, you can learn where those spots are just by playing Normal (or Easy) - no Hard or Lunatic experience needed. The general approach shouldn't change across difficulties.

If you spend about the same amount of time moving from one spot to the other for each wave of suns, there's no net change in how much you hit Utsuho. It's a loss if you leave early, but you earn it back by getting back under Utsuho early. And unless you're going for a score run or something, there's no need to get aggressive by staying under her as much as possible.

The second set of suns is meant to restrict you, in more ways than one. Besides the less space you have, you're forced to stay roughly in place until the second sun comes out (for misdirection purposes). Thus you have less time to move left or right, and it certainly can mean the difference between getting by and getting walled. If Nuclear Fusion is harder, you're doing it wrong.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 06:09:44 AM by Funen1 »
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #494 on: January 21, 2010, 02:11:01 PM »
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #495 on: January 21, 2010, 02:20:52 PM »
How is it that I capture everything Nue throws at me when I'm completely blind, but now that I know what's coming I fail terribly and game over on midspell before Green UFOs :(

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #496 on: January 21, 2010, 03:19:20 PM »
MoF Lunatic 1cc attempt

Messed up Sanae, well there went three lives

Messed up Kanako, there went my other 3 lives

I didn't even make it to Virtue of Wind God even though that definitely would have been a 1cc if I didn't mess it up. But no, I had to mess up Sanae to pretty much likely ruin my chances. Then I clipped Kanako's second spell then died to her last nonspell twice.

Here's the replay in case anyone wishes to watch the complete fail.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6972
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 03:38:28 PM by Enigma »

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #497 on: January 21, 2010, 03:38:22 PM »
Perfect IN Extra stage part.

Die three times and gameover BEFORE Fire Bird... ;_;

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #498 on: January 21, 2010, 04:23:13 PM »
Orin's difficulty is severely overrated. Compared to MarisaC Satori, Orin is nothing.

Every single of those recollection spells are incredibly frustrating. I'm going to have to quit now. Five attempts with no results. I thought Spring Kyoto Dolls were frustrating but no! I only spent five attempts on capturing all MarisaA spells. Thank goodness Marisa is such an awful character so i never have to face these cards in an actual playthrough.

Seriously, Double Black Death Buttlerfly is a pushover compared to Extending Arm.

All above is just frustrated player letting off some steam. We need not raise argument over this.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #499 on: January 21, 2010, 04:32:53 PM »
am I the only one who finds BoWaP retarded?

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #500 on: January 21, 2010, 04:40:57 PM »
am I the only one who finds BoWaP retarded?

Its not too terrible but i hear that there are some who have major trouble with it despite being otherwise damn fine players. You might be one.

Kind of like me and Hells Tokamak.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #501 on: January 21, 2010, 04:46:48 PM »
It's that first wave which comes after the particle part. I can't get into that gap, period.

Oh and Mt. Ooe is just as stupid. How do you find that eye rape fun.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 04:49:02 PM by Bananamatic »

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #502 on: January 21, 2010, 04:58:08 PM »
Now I can't get past stage 1 and 2 again. This same thing happened when I failed an IN Lunatic 1cc when I should have managed it.

What the hell?

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #503 on: January 21, 2010, 05:01:58 PM »
I'm having more trouble with SA's Extra than I expected. The stage portion is such a nightmare. Perhaps I should take Kawaii Yokai's advice and do IN or MoF Extra instead.
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #504 on: January 21, 2010, 06:01:48 PM »
It's that first wave which comes after the particle part. I can't get into that gap, period.

Oh and Mt. Ooe is just as stupid. How do you find that eye rape fun.

Maybe you have a problem with fast moving objects? Well, i sure do as well if they are really fast and clippy but bubbles aren't. Mt. Ooe is one of my favorite spellcards. Yeah, really. Its Hells Tokamak that's eye rape.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #505 on: January 21, 2010, 06:03:04 PM »
Trying to beat PCB on normal without continuing while using a non-homing character is making me rage in brand new ways.

Edit: Damn you Youmu.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #506 on: January 21, 2010, 06:08:30 PM »
Trying to beat PCB on normal without continuing while using a non-homing character is making me rage in brand new ways.

Edit: Damn you Youmu.
Youmu takes way too long with homing characters.
Way.
Too.
Long.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #507 on: January 21, 2010, 06:38:42 PM »
Youmu takes way too long with homing characters.
Way.
Too.
Long.

I can never be happy when I have to go up against youmu.

Ever.  :V

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #508 on: January 21, 2010, 08:23:49 PM »
3 Full PCB Normal S4 practices w/ Reimu B (not counting ragequits).

5/0, 5/2 6/1



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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #509 on: January 21, 2010, 08:28:41 PM »
Touhou failday, which means I die in the most stupid/clipdeath ways but capture Aya's survival card.