Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I thought I had Yamame's final figured out since I was capturing it consistently in a row, now I'm failing it consistently in a row.

I either need to capture that or the opener. Opener I can do but it usually screws me over. I'm like 3/ I don't know on it.

Edit: Tried timing out some Satori cards.

Double Black Death Butterfly: 1 death timeout(was trying to capture it at first though since I haven't yet)

Insect Nest: 1 death timeout

BoWaP: Not even going to try as I can't capture it without the safespot.

Wind God Hidden Among Tree Leaves: 1 death timeout

Tengu Macro Burst: 1 death timeout with a under a few seconds left, what the hell

Great Whirlwind: 1 death timeout, yet again with a few seconds left.

[Lybydose]

I'm glad I died to Rorschach in Danmaku because otherwise my perfect run would have been ruined by GREEN BUBBLE BULLET FAERIES.

[Arcengal]

Nue's 7th non-spell with the rapidly falling balls.
One spawns above me, falling at full speed. It's all I can do to dodge in a random direction to avoid it.
Straight into another bullet.

-_-

Watching the replay showed there was a 1-in-8 chance of that happening.

[theshirn]

What the F----------------

I just had a perfect run of EoSD Extra's stage portion, for the first time - and where do I die?  The books.  Twice.  I consistently perfect the books.  Two deaths.

Whatever, 2/3 for Fland--WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN I JUST DIED ON HER FIRST NONCARD

NO SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED

[Formless God]

Perfect Orin Lunatic run ruined by the last 3 attacks (3 misses). FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Tried to unlock Stage 4 SA for the Marisa shottypes so I could try to capture those spells as well. I didn't beat it with any of them. So much clipdeath.

[Bananamatic]

am I the only one who finds almost all of SA lunatic completely retarded

funnily enough, Utsuho is the only boss from which I have all lunatic cards captured. Satori? Not a single one.
Hypnotism=retarded
DBDB=cheap
Insect Nest=luckshit
BoWaP=CLIPDEATH EVERYWHERE

Probably because I find Reimu in this game way too hard to control for some reason. Marisa is much easier to control, but all of her shottypes are pure shit.
ZUN, WHY PUT IN 6 SHOTTYPES WHEN ONLY ONE IS REMOTELY USEFUL

Makes me think that zun seriously didn't playtest it one bit. There is ONE straight shottype. Out of SIX.
And bomb=power is equally dumb.

That's why I like other shmups more than touhou lately(first time I played TH in weeks)
"Alright, you can select from three ships, no matter what speed and what spread you pick, you get a huge laser by default"

The shotgun shots in touhou are useless. I don't see a single instance where a spread shot was useful in touhou except for SanaeB....sometimes.

UFO did a step in the right direction with giving everyone a straight and a less straight shottype but MoF and SA have the worst selection of shots I've ever seen in shmups.

[Helion]

I believe that the issue you see in MoF and SA was ZUN trying to differentiate playstyles, instead of having all types play down the same in the end.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I have captured all of Yamame's and Parsee's on Lunatic.

For the other bosses:

Yugi: Still need Ooe (gotten close)

Satori: Terrifying Hypnotism(I got close once, just fucking once)

Yukari Satori: DBDB, BoWaP(without safespot since I've done it with it obviously)

Suika Satori: All of them

Aya Satori: Got all 3 of them captured in the same fucking practice run

Marisa A/B/C Satori: Don't have the stage unlocked, but I need all of them


Orin: Possessed Fairy, Ghost Wheels, Small Demons Revival

Utsuho: All of them except Ten Evil Stars and Subterranean Sun

[Bananamatic]

AAAAAAAAAARGHHHGHHGAHAHGAHGAHAGHAGAHHAGHAAGHAGHGHAGHAAGHAGHHAGAGHAHGAGHAGHAGHAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHHGHGGHGH
FGFSGHSHGSHGSHGSHGHGSHGSGH
FUCK FUCK FUCK

FIRST MOF LUNATIC ATTEMPT IN AGES
BOMBED EVERYTHING
ENTERED ST6 WITH 1 LIFE

YES THESE FEW PIXELS WERE KANAKO'S REMAINING HP

brb facewall

[Jana]

I was practicing SA St6 on Easy with Reimu/Suika just now. While I was whiffing a bunch of cards, I almost captured Subterranean Sun... And got hit by the last bullet I had to dodge as Utsuho exploded and her gravity effect went to max. :<

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

What the fuck?

I die four, yes four fucking times over stages 2 and 3 and still make it to fucking Boss Sanae. I actually have a shot at this if I don't completely fuck everything up.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6952

[Bananamatic]

I captured only 2 spells, died 4 times with bombs and still made it to VoWG.
How many lives do you need for VoWG?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

2 or 3 on a good run. Without bombing. Probably 2 with bombing. Kanako is easily 1 death until VoWG, sometimes even none.

Edit: Checks replay

Stage 1 midboss spell
Minoriko's first
Trauma in the Glimmering Depths
Secretly Inherited Art of Danmaku(at 0 lives, 0 power)


Edit: Clipdeathed Kanako's second card twice. Oh and 2 deaths on stage 3 right as I was about to bomb. And I messed up stage 5 again since I couldn't remember how to do it right.

[Garlyle]

My computer's running great by some miracle!  Quickly, to the PC98 games!

...Yumeko just wrecked my shit.  She used her opening 'random red ring burst' thingy three times.  Guess how many times it killed me?  ALL THREE.

COMEON, BRAIN, YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I didn't even make it to stage 5 this time. I kept clipping everything. Fuck you Aya.

[Garlyle]

First attempt at PoDD goes like this:

vs. Ellen: Perfect
vs. Rikako: Perfect
vs. Mima: Perfect
vs. Kana: Take a hit but win
vs. Kotohime: Perfect
vs. Reimu: Take a hit and win
vs. Chiyuri: Take two hits and still win
vs. Yumemi: GAME OVER.

GOD DAMNIT PHANTASMAGORIA AI.

[ふねん1]

Oh my God so many clipdeaths in the first two stages of MoF Hard. I've perfected both stages ages ago, and know what to expect in terms of bombing the harder parts, but I keep dying in the most unexpected of places in the most unexpected of ways. Maybe today's not a good day for Touhou.

Opener I can do but it usually screws me over. I'm like 3/ I don't know on it.

Have you tried this to counter it? I don't know yet if it's worth learning it to the point of consistency, but it seems better than nothing.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Seen it, didn't really help.

[Sen]

Number of times I've reached Kogasa in 45 minutes of UFO Extra: 0

Also failed a perfect Stage 5 normal with a clipdeath on Complete Clarification.


"UFO" and "consistency" don't belong in the same sentence.

[Suikama]

Fuck

Tried to 1cc UNL Lunatic with Meiling again, this time I used her default 236 and it works wonders on Alice.

Got stepped all over on Reimu's stupid burst card.


Goddamn miko. Don't make me make another video where you get raped by muscular fairies and bloody lasers 3:<

[nintendonut888]

Fuck

Tried to 1cc UNL Lunatic with Meiling again, this time I used her default 236 and it works wonders on Alice.

Got stepped all over on Reimu's stupid burst card.


Goddamn miko. Don't make me make another video where you get raped by muscular fairies and bloody lasers 3:<

Are you talking about Blink, the one where she wraps around the screen and ganks you before you can react? That one may as well be the last two stages of Meiling's scenario, because if you can pass it without dying more than once you're all set.

[Suikama]

Are you talking about Blink, the one where she wraps around the screen and ganks you before you can react? That one may as well be the last two stages of Meiling's scenario, because if you can pass it without dying more than once you're all set.

I died twice to that bitch :<

I thought I had it figured out when I started jumping up through the burst and physically attacking her but no her borders then spawn immediately, trapping me in a tiny box in mid air and taking out like half my health :<

[mew77]

I believe that the issue you see in MoF and SA was ZUN trying to differentiate playstyles, instead of having all types play down the same in the end.

I actually liked the selection on MoF.

SA's selection is interesting and MarisaC's bomb was most useful. MarisaA is good too but I can't stand marisaB

I like how each shottype plays differently. I adjust my own style accordingly.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

How did Sadistic Penguin even get the final item extend in his Pacifist Mokou? My best was to get to 656 items, and that was with 3 bombs and a death which would have negated any advantage the extend would give.

Not that I can time most of the stuff out consistently anyway. My best was to get to the nonspell before Phoenix Tail like that.

[Helion]

WHY DO I KEEP DYING AS SPELL CARDS CLEAR

[Bananamatic]

I somehow think that "Patchouli" means "a fucking trainwreck of a stage 4"
seriously, it was goddamn perfect except for stage 4 because that asthmatic slut keeps spamming bubble bullets with ridiculous hitboxes.

Stage 1-perfect
Stage 2-2 bombs, 1 planned
Stage 3-2 bombs. Still didn't die.
Stage 4-Lame death right before books(somehow I can't kill the bullet cancel fairies in time). 1 bomb on books, 1 on Koakuma, another on the spam from above, last one on the bullet cancel fairies before Patchouli.
bleh shitstreaming blocked by lasers, clipdeath with 2 bombs

MOTHERFUCKING PATCHOULI

NDL. Both of them. I can't memorize this shit for my life.
Bury in Lake captured. HOLY SHIT
NDL death no bombs.
Bombed Green Storm once.
Died 2 times on Water Elf even though I've captured it several times before. Both times with bombs....2 and 3. GODDAMNIT.
Bombed both Mercury and Megalith.

St5. Bomb before midboss Sakuya, no bombs left, died on Misdirection(and stupidly at that)
Bombed Jack because I got walled but made up for it by capturing The World.

Entered st6 with 2 lives and 2 bombs and reached Remi with 1 less bomb.
Captured her opener, captured YDL, captured her second nonspell, Needle Mountain, third nonspell, captured Vampire Illusion.
Bombed her 4th nonspell once, survived long enough on SM to take it out with a bomb.
Stupid death on Gensokyo with 2 bombs. Game over.

tl;dr fucking patchouli, fucking bullet canceling fairies. stick your bubble bullets up your purple ass.

[Arcengal]

How many lives do you need for VoWG?

One. Just practice a lot.

[Bananamatic]

One. Just practice a lot.

That was aimed at Enigma...I can dodge it just fine :V
yeah, I couldn't pass a single amulet wall since I didn't expect to get this far because I was nervous as hell and still almost cleared it with only 3 power.

[Zetzumarshen]

Yamame opener

Unless the run needs some bombs conserving (i.e. scoring,no bomb runs), try to sight thread Yamame's first wave. If she moves towards downward or even worse, down-right/down-left, then just bomb her. If you don't want to bomb, stream right a little then when the 2nd wave of red bullets are activating, push right until entering somewhat safe zone. Be careful of red bullet from below and blue bullets from above and yes, it is harder than it sounds. When sight threading is not an option (i.e. 2nd wave), don't hesitate to bomb if the bullets are suddenly pressing hard.
Here are some example when :
to bomb
not to bomb
ignore anything else.

Try not to stream her to the left, its harder going left than right if Yamame is pushing downward, because there will be a fast red bullet that are sweeping the bottom screen from above. There is a safe way if you want to go left (hitting walls/finishing Yamame), see the not to bomb replay. Move up-right, wait, then when the red bullets are activating, go bottom-left.

3.xx Reimu A will defeat her in 2 waves if she is constantly shooting Yamame. Note that her movement are random. The longer the fight takes, the chance of Yamame becoming harder are increased.