The New Spellcard Help Thread

[Demonbman]

Orin and Utushou, It took me 7 continues to bomb-spam Orin to unlock stage practise with MarisaA and MarisaB, but then I got to Utushou and...well.... :ohdear: after the 8th continue I gave up

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Is there a trick to Charming Siege or is it just luckshit?

It ruins my perfect run attempts occasionally, but I didn't think to ask about it until I tried a Pacifist run without bombing then having it kill me 6 times.

[Arcengal]

It's slight luckshit but as long as you're working out where the path created by the smaller bullets is going and adjust accordingly, you should be fine.

[Arcengal]

Apologies for double posting, but I have a question:

Is Radiant Treasure Gun static?

[The Greatest Dog]

Apologies for double posting, but I have a question:

Is Radiant Treasure Gun static?

I thought it was, until it ruined another Hard 1cc attempt. The laser positions are always the same, but you have to remember to dodge in claustrophobia inducing spaces.

[Zengeku]

Double Black Death Butterfly. Satori version. Lunatic mode.

This attack is fiendishly difficult. And hardly seems fair because what kills me are usually butterflies that camouflage themselves under other butterflies. I thought i'd just post and ask if anyone has any tips maybe like ideal positioning or things to watch out for.

[Drake]

Stay away from the bottom, there's a rough oval space you should stay in about 1/4 - 1/3 way up. Blue goes left, Red goes right.

[SupahVee1234]

Double Black Death Butterfly. Satori version. Lunatic mode.

This attack is fiendishly difficult. And hardly seems fair because what kills me are usually butterflies that camouflage themselves under other butterflies. I thought i'd just post and ask if anyone has any tips maybe like ideal positioning or things to watch out for.

This attack is so goddamn hard because instead of having a wave of butterflies - a wave of knives - a wave of butterflies and so on there only are butterflies. I get confused.

[Zengeku]

This attack is so goddamn hard because instead of having a wave of butterflies - a wave of knives - a wave of butterflies and so on there only are butterflies. I get confused.

Knives? Oh no, you're mistaking it for the Phantasm version Yukari has. That one is pretty easy for me. Its Satori's recollection version that's my nemesis right now.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I usually bomb that thing even on Normal.

And I suck at both versions.

[SupahVee1234]

Knives? Oh no, you're mistaking it for the Phantasm version Yukari has. That one is pretty easy for me. Its Satori's recollection version that's my nemesis right now.

What I meant is that if Satori used both butterfly and knives it would've been much easier since only using butterflies it looks like a clusterfuck and I can't understand what's moving and what isn't.

[Zengeku]

Ah yes, alright. I understand you now. Yeah, some knives might make it easier to tell what's what. It seems Satori remembers it as being harder than it was.

[IBakaChan]

Supernatrual Phenomena/Unnatrual Phenomena. Yuugi, stage 3, easy.

Yes, I'm having troubles with EASY MODO :V

It's just a cluster where the bullets come from all ways at once(Or so it feels).

[Drake]

When she starts the card, plant yourself right above the Y in Enemy. Proceed to never get hit.

The card is static, you can do the same thing each time. I suppose I could give you some real advice, but that'd only measure up to "dodge" and "learn the card".

[Chronojet ⚙ Dragon]

Supernatrual Phenomena/Unnatrual Phenomena. Yuugi, stage 3, easy.

Yes, I'm having troubles with EASY MODO :V

It's just a cluster where the bullets come from all ways at once(Or so it feels).

If it's what I think it is, try putting yourself in the way of some of the bullets. they autodelete when spawning if they are too close to you.

[MTSranger]

Orin and Utushou, It took me 7 continues to bomb-spam Orin to unlock stage practise with MarisaA and MarisaB, but then I got to Utushou and...well.... :ohdear: after the 8th continue I gave up

Here is what I do
Orin
Cat walk: shoot her, bomb, shoot her again
1st non card: move around and pray I don't hit little blue things
Possessed Fairy: stop shooting, lead the zombies to the corner, move quickly to below Orin, shoot, and when zombies come, repeat
2nd non card: same as 1st non-card, bigger and faster blue bullets aimed
Spleen Eater: move through the "wheel" when it contracts and kill the fairies in your way. You can also gap to the other side.
3rd non card: dodge, stall, bomb
Mountain Needle: the spinny things come in a pattern relative to your position or something, move away from them or bomb
Last card: lead the fairies somewhere far (like top or something), shoot boss, pray and bomb (2 bombs maximum should do)

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Help on Utsuho? I haven't captured a single spell. Big explosions (1st card) and Heaven/Hell Meltdown are wtf.
Is there any tricks to the last spell?

[omgrandomnumbers]

Catwalk just looks scary. As ReimuA, you'll only need to survive 1 iteration. I suggest dodging the first four waves, then trying to get near the circles that are about to go off. That way, you'll be able to anticipate the trajectories more clearly. However, don't follow Orin once she reaches about the middle of the screen, since you'll end up trapped in a white circle. It's luck-based, but my record on it is 8/19 following that strategy.

[Inactive person]

Wrong place

[omgrandomnumbers]

NVM, answered earlier.

[Bananamatic]

misayama is retarded and shouldn't count in perfect runs

[LHCling]

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=9110

• Stay in the center
• Stream to the side; moving between the last set of knives is optional
• ???
• Profit

Note that you can move back to the center after each set of knives as well, but YMMV.

[MTSranger]

Shikigami's Shot "Ultimate Buddhist"
Wut? Entered with 5/4, came out with 2/1.

Shikigami's Radiance "Princess Tenko -Illusion-"
I can time it out no bomb no death. Capture? nope. Any help?

Is Chen's movement static in Shikigami "Chen"? How do you read it?

Damn it, so close to beating Ran (if I can enter the survival >2/4 I will be able to beat it by bomb spam)

[Drake]

Watching even one replay would fix those.

When the red lasers are going to pop up, follow the laser path. You spin around Ran until the blue lasers come back.

Either go from top to bottom or left to right, constantly. You should be positioning yourself so the aimed stuff doesn't get in your way.

Static. Watch Chen more than anything else though. Staying near Ran for most of the card might make it easier, dunno.

[Vibri]

For Chen I just move so that I'm almost touching one of the 'lines' she spawns when she moves from one side to the other.  When she moves again she'll never hit you, because she's bouncing at an angle.  This way you don't even really need to watch Chen; you just wait until it looks like she's getting close to your vertical position, and then move so that on her next move she'll go over/under you.

[Arcengal]

Is Chen's movement static in Shikigami "Chen"? How do you read it?

A "magic circle" appears in the spot she's going to next, so that gives you a clue, albeit one you have about a second to react to if you're in the way.

[RainfallYoshi]

I'm having a ton of issues with trying to 1cc PCB. I hit a wall with Youmu, as a few of her cards really wreck me. Yuyuko is also giving me issues, but I think it's more from not being so experienced with her spellcards yet rather than being downright hard. I'll come back to her later.

I could use some advice for some of Youmu's cards as well as her initial mid-boss non-spells and the boss non-spells identical to it. This is all on Normal by the way.

200 Yojana in 1 Slash
This one starts off rather easy but once Youmu gets to about the 3rd slash, I just get overwhelmed by the mass of red orbs that she sends at me. The time slowing can be disorienting here as well.

Delusion of Enlightenment
For some reason I always seems to have bullets spawn right next to me as I'm moving in that direction. I have a hard time keeping up with the white bullets that spawn while I'm streaming the red orb waves.

[MTSranger]

Youmu opener on normal can be dodged with reading and practice. You can also misdirect it (stick the orb into her face during dialog)

200 Yojana in 1 Slash - aggressively get through as many bullets as you can during slow down, bomb if you get walled

Delusion of Enlightenment - stream slowly left to right at the middle of screen (so that you don't get killed by a bullet spawning on you)

If you are just going for 1cc, don't hesitate to bomb. One bomb would do both of those cards I think.

[NLTM]

Dunno if this has been asked for yet, but I cannot for the life of me capture ANY of ReimuA-Satori's cards on Normal. I'm thinking of switching to ReimuB as Suika's Satori cards are much more manageable, but then I get stuck on a lot of stages because I can't switch sides.

[MTSranger]

Satori's 1st card is easy on normal.
Double Black Death Butterfly - dodge a bit up from the bottom of the screen
Flying Insect's Nest - stream the butterflies horizontally and don't get walled by lasers
Border of Wave and Particle - pure dodging, memorize when the dense walls come so that you move out of the way quick enough

[NLTM]

Also, this is probably the wrong thread for this, as it's not exactly about spells per say, and if someone can show me the right thread that'd be great but is there any effective way to use MarisaA or C in MoF at all? trying to 1cc MoF as everyone and it's annoying with them. They're just so... inadequate. and also the last shot types I need to 1cc with.