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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #810 on: May 17, 2010, 01:53:36 AM »
HELP
HELP
HELP
HELP
HELP


Try to get to her with 3 lives or more.  And use SanaeB for the love of god.
Can't 1cc UFO with Sanae B. Her shot leaves these little things that looks like Danmaku and I end up ramming something each time.
MarisaA is better than anything in UFO Extra
I suck horribly at straight shot type.
HELP

Thanks a lot you guys, and Krim, I really need to get back to you on this. Very helpful response there, but I need to keep practicing it.

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Any help for Stage 5? I cannot do any of Orin's cards, and Cannibal Spirit is a very easy card, but I cannot see the pattern, I get trapped, and I die. =[


Also, "Easiest Stage 3 Boss" my foot.


Not even Lunatic Kogasa gives me this much trouble.


And then, obligatory safe spot for BoWaP, my glasses prescription is out of date. /bullshit


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And I absolutely love Reimu A's deathbomb timer. Just what I need.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #811 on: May 18, 2010, 05:12:20 PM »
Also, "Easiest Stage 3 Boss" my foot.
Not even Lunatic Kogasa gives me this much trouble.

What the hell are you talking about? Are you sure you are not mistaking someone for somebody else? Yuugi may or may not be the easiest S3 boss but Kogasa is much harder eh?


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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #812 on: May 18, 2010, 08:01:06 PM »
Flying Fantasia. I get to Byakuren with 3 lives, SanaeB, and I proceed to lose all of them. I've been told not to deathbomb, but even though the boss is immune that doesn't make much sense. How do I do decently at it?

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #813 on: May 18, 2010, 08:01:55 PM »
What the hell are you talking about? Are you sure you are not mistaking someone for somebody else? Yuugi may or may not be the easiest S3 boss but Kogasa is much harder eh?
I disagree

Two bombs and Lunatic Kogasa is down.  Yuugi trashes me in Lunatic. Hard is pretty bad too.

UFO Lunatic stage 2 portion isn't that bad either. Maybe I just hate lasers

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #814 on: May 18, 2010, 08:03:51 PM »
Flying Fantasia. I get to Byakuren with 3 lives, SanaeB, and I proceed to lose all of them. I've been told not to deathbomb, but even though the boss is immune that doesn't make much sense. How do I do decently at it?

If Flying Fantasia is the Normal version, then try to stick to just vertical dodging, and go left and right minamally just to get through the closing circles, and try to stay away from the very bottom of the screen, if the circles encolse you there your boned.
 

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #815 on: May 20, 2010, 03:35:05 PM »
Is there any advice to be had with Peerless Wind God or do i just need to bring a lot of lucky charms?

You could say that the basic recipe for a perfect Aya fight is; If you capture Peerless Wind God: Perfect Aya fight. If you don't: 1DNB Aya fight. My capture rate on that card is 1/50.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #816 on: May 20, 2010, 03:48:28 PM »
Is there any advice to be had with Peerless Wind God or do i just need to bring a lot of lucky charms?
Learn how to dodge rainmaku.

You could say that the basic recipe for a perfect Aya fight is; If you capture Peerless Wind God: Perfect Aya fight. If you don't: 1DNB Aya fight. My capture rate on that card is 1/50.
>:(

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #817 on: May 20, 2010, 04:21:41 PM »
Yuugi may or may not be the easiest S3 boss but Kogasa is much harder eh?
Quote
easiest S3 boss
Nitorin. Even when her attacks are potentially more annoying than
Spoiler:
Kanako
, at least your bombs work.

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #818 on: May 20, 2010, 04:42:31 PM »
Nevermind my earlier post. I was positioned too high up the screen. Standing low in the left corner makes it go from bullshit hard to just a very hard but skillbased attack. At least all my failures after going there were legit derps on my part. I don't want to do a no-focus capture of it though.  :D

Nitorin. Even when her attacks are potentially more annoying than
Spoiler:
Kanako
, at least your bombs work.

When we are talking about which bosses are easiest I automatically assume that we are talking no-bombs. Any fool can bomb spam a boss fight. If that was the case then MoF bosses would generally be the easiest as you can just bomb everything they have. MoF is actually for no good reason considered to be one of the easiest Lunatics just because you can bomb spam. The danmaku is as hard as usual though. (And Aya kicks Murasa's butt by the way.)

When it comes to easiest Stage 3 boss i pick Yuugi. Yuugi doesn't have any glowing bullets that makes me mess up. (Nitori isn't terribly hard either though)

So GreenVirus. Just because you can bombspam your way through Kogasa doesn't mean she is easier than Yuugi. Try both bosses on Lunatic without bombs. Let that change your mind.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #819 on: May 20, 2010, 04:59:09 PM »
Bubble bullets blending into each other is far worse than AA bullets to me :V
« Last Edit: May 20, 2010, 05:01:09 PM by Formless God »

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #820 on: May 20, 2010, 05:06:46 PM »

Formless God

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #821 on: May 20, 2010, 05:09:22 PM »
Anti-aliased Alpha ... something. Just call it glowy bullet then.

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #822 on: May 20, 2010, 05:17:37 PM »
Anti-aliased Alpha ... something. Just call it glowy bullet then.

How do bubble bullets blend together better than those?

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #823 on: May 20, 2010, 05:18:58 PM »
I believe the term you're looking for is "additive blended", IE the bullet is "added" to whatever is behind it rather than blocking it out. Lasers, bubbles and fireballs are additive blended, and many of the normal bullets are now additive blended as of Double Spoiler.

Anyways, I need tips for DS's stage 11, particularly Sakura Blizzard, Omiwatari Cross, and Mishaguji-sama.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #824 on: May 20, 2010, 05:29:17 PM »
How do bubble bullets blend together better than those?
Their outermost layer tend to make a complete mass of white, and their hitboxes become even easier to misjudge when bundled together. Mt. Ooe is one thing, inb4 Bury in Lake and Remi's first.

Sakura Blizzard. The bullets always start off randomized (you have to skilldodge here), then they form convenient lanes for you to approach Wacko and take your photos.
Mishaguji-sama. You have to sort of misdirect the blue sunmaku away (i.e. be constantly moving). During the last photo however, stream it.
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #825 on: May 20, 2010, 05:33:23 PM »
Their outermost layer tend to make a complete mass of white, and their hitboxes become even easier to misjudge when bundled together. Mt. Ooe is one thing, inb4 Bury in Lake and Remi's first.

I see. I rarely find that to be an issue though. Its rarely the bubbles that kill me in Bury in Lake. its the bullets while i'm attempting to get away from the bubbles! :)

As for Remi's opener. The bubbles doesn't even get close do they?

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #826 on: May 20, 2010, 11:27:48 PM »
Magic Butterfly on Hard. What's the pattern to this? I've captured it before, but it's not like I know what I'm doing.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #827 on: May 21, 2010, 12:08:28 AM »
Four Devas Arcanum "Knock out in Three Steps". How do you dodge the innermost blue waves?

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #828 on: May 21, 2010, 12:27:15 AM »
on Normal, you'll have to follow the Purple Blob bullets and then just weave through them.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #829 on: May 21, 2010, 12:36:26 AM »
Okay, Flying Fantastica is destroying my no-focus normal runs. Any tips? Also what's this I hear about not bombing too many times during the attack? Not that it matters anyways since Byakuren doesn't even take damage during a bomb for that attack.  :(

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #830 on: May 21, 2010, 01:05:13 AM »
Okay, Flying Fantastica is destroying my no-focus normal runs. Any tips? Also what's this I hear about not bombing too many times during the attack? Not that it matters anyways since Byakuren doesn't even take damage during a bomb for that attack.  :(
Provided that you follow the same movements and have 4.00 power, then the attack is static.

If you bomb, well... Then you have to sightread.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #831 on: May 21, 2010, 07:13:01 AM »
So GreenVirus. Just because you can bombspam your way through Kogasa doesn't mean she is easier than Yuugi. Try both bosses on Lunatic without bombs. Let that change your mind.

SA: Use bombs until death (4.00 power), then fight with crap power (Around 1.00 or 2.00) and die again.
UFO: Two *good* (if Sanae B) bombs per life without milking green UFO.

In a no-bombs situation, I would have to try this to see for myself, so I will *probably* get back to you on this.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #832 on: May 21, 2010, 07:35:45 AM »
SA: Use bombs until death (4.00 power), then fight with crap power (Around 1.00 or 2.00) and die again.
UFO: Two *good* (if Sanae B) bombs per life without milking green UFO.

In a no-bombs situation, I would have to try this to see for myself, so I will *probably* get back to you on this.

Yes. You go do that.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #833 on: May 21, 2010, 06:20:15 PM »
Magic Butterfly on Hard. What's the pattern to this? I've captured it before, but it's not like I know what I'm doing.
This might help. In all seriousness, I just sightread it as it comes along.

Okay, Flying Fantastica is destroying my no-focus normal runs. Any tips? Also what's this I hear about not bombing too many times during the attack? Not that it matters anyways since Byakuren doesn't even take damage during a bomb for that attack.  :(
The only piece of advice I can give apart from (semi / pseudo-)memorization is to avoid moving in diagonals; keep to 4-way movement where possible.
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #834 on: May 22, 2010, 02:07:07 AM »
"Scolding From A Traditional Old Man". WHAT.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #835 on: May 22, 2010, 02:34:10 AM »
avoid moving in diagonals; keep to 4-way movement where possible.
Does this also apply to Lunatic LFO ? If so omgbrbtrying

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #836 on: May 22, 2010, 03:12:33 AM »
"Scolding From A Traditional Old Man". WHAT.

Try to stay near the laser spawnpoints until the fists appear. Then at the last second, fly down to the bottom of the screen. The lasers will be easier to dodge and the fists will be too far above to hit you. I can't remember, is SfaTOM the Easy/Normal version or the Hard/Lunatic version? Because if it's Hard/Lunatic, you're also going to have to deal with random additive-blend bullets; in that case, just bomb if you can't dodge fists/lasers/AB-bullets all at once.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #837 on: May 22, 2010, 04:01:58 AM »
Does this also apply to Lunatic LFO ? If so omgbrbtrying
It's a general rule to be taken into consideration when doing No Focus. It's not foolproof however.
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #838 on: May 23, 2010, 05:58:40 AM »
All right, one last one. Sinker Ghost is really getting in the way of my Normal perfect run attempts. How do I do it? I've seen people stick to the corers and move clockwise, but that doesn't work for me.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #839 on: May 23, 2010, 07:59:59 AM »
"4 Corners" should only be used in the last 12 or so seconds or so due to the slow nature of said Spell Card. You'll have to alter the way you go about the rest of it to make it "trivial". Try to make it so that you only need to move in one direction to follow through, of course you don't have to be perfectly aligned, but just enough so that only a few adjustments are needed to go through. Moving through diagonally is the most difficult so keeping it to the 4 basic directions is optimal.

Replay, with a special note that I forgot didn't know where the transition to "4 Corners" was; I was one iteration too early.

Clockwise vs. Counter-Clockwise is entirely up to preference.
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