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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #750 on: April 19, 2010, 12:03:58 PM »
Kaguya's third Last Spell

Is there anything that makes this easier?

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #751 on: April 20, 2010, 04:24:16 AM »
Resurrection Butterfly: how do I dodge the red butterflies that go left-right etc?

I would like to know this too. It seems I do fine one round, then the next one it goes straight into me.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #752 on: April 20, 2010, 06:03:12 AM »
I start doing good, and then I screw everything over. =/

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #753 on: April 21, 2010, 04:47:58 PM »
GRRR DAMMIT BYAKUREN!
 
I was up till 11:30 trying to beat her with ReimuB normal, I must have used, 20 fricken continues! curse her and her evil nonspells and Omen in Purple Mist! For Omen since i'm using ReimuB I stick to the corners of the field so I can dodge throught the little openings, then run under her and repeat, but sometimes its not enough, suggestions?
 
and the onther one I am having trouble with is Her 3rd noncard, the one where she spins around the screen, any idea's on what to do?
 
Only once did I make it to St.Nico's Air Scroll! And I game overed because of a re****** death

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #754 on: April 21, 2010, 11:29:05 PM »
GRRR DAMMIT BYAKUREN!
 
I was up till 11:30 trying to beat her with ReimuB normal, I must have used, 20 fricken continues! curse her and her evil nonspells and Omen in Purple Mist! For Omen since i'm using ReimuB I stick to the corners of the field so I can dodge throught the little openings, then run under her and repeat, but sometimes its not enough, suggestions?

I try to think of Omen  like Kogasa's nonspells, only with raindrop bullets everywhere. Youtubed for shameless self promoting and examples.
 
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and the onther one I am having trouble with is Her 3rd noncard, the one where she spins around the screen, any idea's on what to do?
Bomb. Or at least if you really hate it. I can never seem to get farther than Hiziri making a full circle.
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Only once did I make it to St.Nico's Air Scroll! And I game overed because of a re****** death

St. Nikou's Scroll is... Well, the only problematic wave should be the first wave because of the freaking doppler effect. The second, third, and hopefully not fourth wave are slightly easier, but you should be able to bomb the first wave.
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #755 on: April 25, 2010, 02:07:31 PM »
Komachi in PoFV

How are you supposed to go about fighting her?

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #756 on: April 25, 2010, 08:36:50 PM »
You guys say its very easy, still i find myself getting walled. How do you capture Shou's Aura of Light? I might sound incredibly stupid for asking this but i get walled by this pretty much half the time.


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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #757 on: April 25, 2010, 11:13:59 PM »
How are you supposed to go about fighting her?
Experience dictates that you should pay extra attention to the coins every time the EX-attack gets sent to your screen.

You guys say its very easy, still i find myself getting walled. How do you capture Shou's Aura of Light? I might sound incredibly stupid for asking this but i get walled by this pretty much half the time.
Uh, avoid the middle unless you're about half-way up the screen between the bottom and Syou. There are cases where you have to dash to the other side of the screen somewhat quickly unless you feel the need to weave through somewhat threatening walls.
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #758 on: April 27, 2010, 02:46:05 PM »
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I just had a 1DNBNBB  run due to this card. Is there a way to consistently do it, or is it just luckshit.


Also, is there a way to get all point items with SakuyaB without bombing. I know how to get all of them except for the last parts. Maybe if I could time a border for that, but then I wouldn't be able to get the other set before that one without the border, and I don't know know if I could time one like that.

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #759 on: April 27, 2010, 07:24:49 PM »
Need a bit of advice on Hisoutensoku Normal. With Meiling, what is the most effective way to deal with Reimu's 2nd spellcard?

All the projectile based attacks she has seem to suck and making things take forever so i can't finish it before the timer runs out. The attack was a lot easier with Sanae because her amulets are far more effective than anything Hong have that i know of.

What move would be the most recommended here?

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #760 on: April 28, 2010, 08:58:00 PM »
I'm currently trying to 1cc UFO normal and sucking at it. I have issues with the following:
Scolding from an Old Man
Ghost Ship Harbor
Sinker Ghost
Every single noncard Shou has
Absolute Justice

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #761 on: April 29, 2010, 02:00:15 PM »
I'm currently trying to 1cc UFO normal and sucking at it. I have issues with the following:
Scolding from an Old Man
Ghost Ship Harbor
Sinker Ghost
Every single noncard Shou has
Absolute Justice

Got Scolding, I usually dodge the lasers up close to Ichirin, then when the fists come, run to the bottom of the screen. Then when the fists disappear I run back up.
 
Ghost Ship Harbor - The Anchors are aimed, so dodge to the side of the screen where the anchors have to travel the most, as this side will have the less bullets.
 
Sinker Ghost - I had the same problem with this card to, but its really easy once you get the hang of it. So when the card starts go to the top left or right side of the scree, wait untill Murasa spawns, then run to the other side of the screen, then go down the screen while dodging the bullets that Murasa spawned the first time. And repeat going around the screen and weave inbetween the bullets.
 
Shou NonCards - I don't know the noncards well enought to tell you.
 
Absolute Justice - Your best bet to this card is just to go to either the far left or far right side of the screen, the lasers wil pose less of a threat here. Then dodge the walls, unless your Reimu, then go through the walls

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #762 on: May 02, 2010, 02:44:09 AM »
I still don't know how "Butterfly In the Zen Temple" (or its Ran equivalent, for that matter) works, so I end up spending many bombs on it each time I try.

Perhaps there is some trick to Chen's "Phoenix Spread Wings L", as well?  Some way to take the blue and red separately?

Thanks :)
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #763 on: May 02, 2010, 02:48:28 AM »
Lasers don't kill right away, so when everything appears rush through.


Okay, Eirin's opener on Lunatic. This refers to her midboss one on both Finals as her boss opener is easy. I always have to bomb this thing.

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #764 on: May 02, 2010, 07:51:28 AM »
I need help with Byakuren's Magic Milky Way Lunatic. No matter what i do i find myself sandwiched between two snake lasers and rammed by a star. How is this thing supposed to be handled?

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #765 on: May 02, 2010, 02:38:29 PM »
Not sure if this was posted on the other spellcard help thread, but I found a really simple way to do :

 Tewi's last word card, Ancient duper.

As the two giant beams cut you off, try to move a few inches from below her, as the danmaku begin on the side, move up so you're on top of them, and quickly dodge the blue balls of danmaku from going left, right, left, right, left right, until she stops, rinse, and repeat.

Sorry if that was hard to follow. :(
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #766 on: May 02, 2010, 03:02:54 PM »
Yukari's first spellcard. Also Eirin midboss opener advice still needed.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #767 on: May 02, 2010, 03:08:34 PM »
Yukari's first spellcard. Also Eirin midboss opener advice still needed.

You need all of her spell cards for the mid? Or just a particular one?
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #768 on: May 02, 2010, 03:51:31 PM »
Yukari's first spellcard.
Tap once.
Start in the right corner.

Also Eirin midboss opener advice still needed.
One way of doing it is to start in the right corner and then go to the left while staying under Eirin and making sure she follows you by staying on the left of the enemy indicator.
As for the pattern, you just have to learn how it works. It's a pretty batshit attack though, there's no shame in bombing it.

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #769 on: May 02, 2010, 04:48:13 PM »
I was doing Yukari's first spell from left corner. Captured it on my no bomb clear after starting from the right. Not sure if that'll make it consistent as I haven't played it enough after that.


Postmidboss Ran in Phantasm using SakuyaB. That part kicked my ass with 3 screwups(2 death, 1 border) and is a huge barrier to perfecting the stage. I perfected Yukari up till BoLaD where I died 3 times, so any tips on how to safespot it consistently?
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #770 on: May 02, 2010, 10:51:06 PM »
Yukari's first spellcard.
Tap once.
Start in the right corner.
Hm. To add, if you let the Spell Card drag for long enough you might have to tap twice due to the rate of fire of the bullets. Or start moving diagonally upwards and downwards to dodge various aimed bullets. As an additional thing, you should only "tapdodge" when you're about to get hit, and not as soon as the bullets are fired (this is actually an intermediate shmup technique where you stay still as you let an enemy fire all their "aimed bullets" first before moving). So yeah, wait a bit before you tap.

...Right corner is a convention; left works just fine.

Eirin's opener
Pseudo-static criss-crossan (statjc relative to her posi(ry ). Practice until you have it down. Being in the corners does help but keep in mind the consequences of doing so.

I need help with Byakuren's Magic Milky Way Lunatic. No matter what i do i find myself sandwiched between two snake lasers and rammed by a star. How is this thing supposed to be handled?
I was going to give a demonstration timeout, but then I realized how difficult it was to actually time it out. So instead, see the attachment of a run where I was just messing around. You'll note that at the start, I generally hover between two points, and go back and forth between them as you would when streaming and changing directions. This is the best way to go about this in terms of risk:reward in my opinion. Now, about 15-20 seconds in (you'll just know when from experience) you'll see me swapping between 3 points, one of which is in the middle (so I basically go to that point, stop and start moving after the stars are fired).

A similar method can be applied at the bottom of the screen, but you'll have to make amendments to what I said above because of the "delay" of the stars reaching that general area. The lasers are unfortunately(?) randomized so you'll just have to suck it up and dodge.

I still don't know how "Butterfly In the Zen Temple" (or its Ran equivalent, for that matter) works, so I end up spending many bombs on it each time I try.
I'll assume that you're having problems circling around. If that's the case, move in a bit closer so the circles that you make aren't large enough that they slow you down and that you'll eventually get cut down by a laser.

Perhaps there is some trick to Chen's "Phoenix Spread Wings L", as well?  Some way to take the blue and red separately?
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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #771 on: May 03, 2010, 04:49:38 PM »
I see what you are doing there Baity. I don't think the card will get to live long enough with ReimuA max power but you don't necessarily have that so thank you.

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There is something else that have been nagging me. I suck horribly at LFS/LFO. How are you supposed to read this thing? What i'm asking is, where would be the best places to be and what are you supposed to look for.

And does it just get twice as hard if you bomb or die in it?

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #772 on: May 03, 2010, 05:04:35 PM »
I just noticed that the stars in Magic Milky Way seem to move in a straight line :< . The card might lean more toward the positioning type than the streaming type.

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #773 on: May 04, 2010, 02:14:42 AM »
I'll assume that you're having problems circling around. If that's the case, move in a bit closer so the circles that you make aren't large enough that they slow you down and that you'll eventually get cut down by a laser.

Ah, of course.  That makes sense.  I had been circling the outside, yes, and being forced to bomb through at least one laser on each rotation.  Circling the inside seems like it will work much better.

As for Phoenix Spread Wings, the card consists of blue arrows and red arrows; I was thinking that there could be some way to "put off " dealing with red arrows until I have dodged through all of the relevant blue ones, or vice versa.  Probably not, though; it's just a pipe dream.

Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #774 on: May 04, 2010, 03:48:11 AM »
Is there any trick to Lunatic Buddhist Diamond?

I have to be doing something right(or maybe wrong?) if I have a 6/27 (5/22) record on it?

Considering Brilliant Dragon Bullet is easier on the bottom of the screen, Salamander Shield can be memorized or just streamed, Lifespring Infinity is mostly easy reading, and Hourai Jewel can be memorized, I would expect some sort of trick for this one too.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #775 on: May 04, 2010, 03:53:53 AM »
Funeral Concert "Prism Concerto".
Nuff said.
I keep dying on that, I know I am stupid.
But help please?

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #776 on: May 04, 2010, 06:13:41 PM »
Spirit Strings "Stradivarius"
How
HOW

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #777 on: May 04, 2010, 07:00:04 PM »
Spirit Strings "Stradivarius"
How
HOW
Move close to Lunasa and back away. Repeat.
Someone was as helpfull as to upload it.

Funeral Concert "Prism Concerto".
Nuff said.
I keep dying on that, I know I am stupid.
But help please?
You're not stupid, this card is actually really hard for normal mode.
The best advice I can give you is to move higher up the screen, predict when lanes are going to go in sync with eachother and wall you and move out of the way before that happens.

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #778 on: May 07, 2010, 03:02:25 AM »
Okay, I'm just going to say this straight up:

UFO Extra makes all other Extras seem like a joke. However, I remember saying the same for SA's Extra. It's still pretty damn hard, but manageable now.

How do you do the stage portion? It totally kicks my ass. Took me seven tries to get to Nue, and even then, 50% of my tries have death by the time I get 1400 points. From there it's easy except for the final barrage right before Nue.

And I'm guessing this for resources: Milk one red UFO, kill it. Milk a green UFO, however, no time to kill it because Kogasa will be there by then.
And from there: Milk two other reds and kill them. Milk a green. By that time, I'm guessing I would have four lives (with 1/5th fragment) and one/no bombs. (Because I would have used them up by then.)

Nue's cards are easy compared to other Extras. It's HER THIRD SPELL (The one with curvy lasers "snakes") that is a pain. How do you do this one? History 0/5

Going back to Kogasa, how do you do her second spell? It reminds me of Mt. Ooe, which is a card I HAVE NEVER been able to capture. 0/16

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Re: The New Spellcard Help Thread
« Reply #779 on: May 07, 2010, 03:14:38 AM »
I'll plug this here so you can steal ideas from it if you find it useful: UFO Extra No Deaths/No Bombs, UFOs used but not in too organized of a manner, so you might want to ignore that.

For Nue's snakes, you can tell which set of lasers is going to advance first; the two sets have ever-so-slightly different shades of green, and if I remember correctly, the brighter wave advances first.  If you can see that, then from there it's just reading and getting a feel for how the lasers bend (and they don't bend as ridiculously as Syoulasers, so it shouldn't be that bad).

For Kogasa's second, it's just reading as well.  If your eyes aren't glued to the left side of the screen, you're probably doing it wrong..  If your eyes already are glued to the side of the screen, you just need to work on it.

And for your information, UFO life fragments are 1/4, not 1/5 like in SA.
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