The New Spellcard Help Thread

[Alice★f]

Okay, thank you very much everyone! I've captured every card I asked for help on this thread.

And now: SA's Extra
"Genetics of the Subconscious"
^^^^^^^wtf

[Sapz]

Okay, thank you very much everyone! I've captured every card I asked for help on this thread.

And now: SA's Extra
"Genetics of the Subconscious"
^^^^^^^wtf

It's static except for the parts where Koishi charges at you (when you hear the noise) - so if you do the same things, it'll turn out the same each time. This'll get you through the first 40 seconds; if you're using ReimuA at a decent power, that'll be enough to capture the card. Otherwise, you might need to survive for another ten seconds or so into the pattern, but the principle is the same. ...Though to be honest, it's really just some fast, sparse dodging. The only problems are if you mess up the Koishi-charge parts and have her fly into an awkward position.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

EoSD Stage 3 Lunatic, the entire ****ing stage.

The only thing on it that I'm consistent on is Rainbow Wind Chime and boss Meiling's second nonspell. Usually the midboss nonspell also, but sometimes I clip it.

Edit: Oh, and I'm consistent at dying on it a lot

[GuyonFire]

Is there some sort of trick to IN Extra's Spell Card 199 - Forgiveness "Honest Man's Death"?  There is absolutely no way to dodge the laser once the wavey ultra-fast-laser-like-bullets box you in.  Going from 3 to 0 lives is an arglharglhagrlha.

[LHCling]

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8273

To "dodge" the laser, you just move "into" it (or rather, towards it). The laser doesn't materialize until it reaches the point where you were standing. So if you move a tiny bit towards the laser, said laser will materialize on the other side of your hitbox and won't even touch you as it keeps going.

It is however, also possible to circle around if you wish to do that instead.

EoSD Stage 3 Lunatic

Entire thing? I seriously doubt that. Well, a step-by-step method of going about the stage shouldn't be that difficult for me to come up with. Shot Type?

Regarding Meiling, the Mid-Boss Spell Card is static; it would do good no real harm to learn it. Or you can sightread capture it every time like me by standing a tiny little bit to the left and dodging from there.

The rest of Boss!Meiling falls under raw dodging, with the exception of the last non-spell; I assume that the problem lies with the second ring of kunai. If Meiling moves too far down the screen, bomb. Else, you'll have to either unfocus through the ring (move with the flow of the bullets straight across the screen), or move unfocused across while tapping the focus button periodically; this partially controls your speed if you're trying to find a medium between focused and unfocused speeds; I've found it useful and use it almost everywhere.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Mostly postmidboss. The first half isn't usually that bad, though I sometimes mess it up.

Shotypes are ReimuA and MarisaB

Forgot to mention Hailstorm as well.

[Bananamatic]

RTG L

[GuyonFire]

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8273

To "dodge" the laser, you just move "into" it (or rather, towards it). The laser doesn't materialize until it reaches the point where you were standing. So if you move a tiny bit towards the laser, said laser will materialize on the other side of your hitbox and won't even touch you as it keeps going.

It is however, also possible to circle around if you wish to do that instead.

If only it was as easy as the replay made it look How was anyone supposed to figure THAT out?

Thanks a lot.  If I go around and behind her, will the black bullets follow me or will they stay firing downwards?

[R-9A2 Delta]

So after finally unlocking DS's extra stage, I'm having trouble with everything on it. Yes, I suck. I'm aware of that, but can I at least have some help?

EDIT: Except EX-6 and EX-4.

[Jaimers]

If I go around and behind her, will the black bullets follow me or will they stay firing downwards?

Everything will follow you.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Illusional Misdirection

I forgot which way you were supposed to stream this thing. Or which side was best to start on.

[Arcengal]

If only it was as easy as the replay made it look How was anyone supposed to figure THAT out?

The spellcard is called "Honest Man's Death". The laser is obviously unavoidable, and if you're an honest man you wouldn't lie to yourself about being able to dodge it, so you should just ram into it and stop trying to escape.

At least, this is what I figure. It's one of the reasons I'm so glad for the English patches: sometimes the clue is in the name.

[SupahVee1234]

Chen's last spell.

[Formless God]

The spellcard is called "Honest Man's Death". The laser is obviously unavoidable, and if you're an honest man you wouldn't lie to yourself about being able to dodge it, so you should just ram into it and stop trying to escape.

This has to be one of the coolest spell card solutions ever

[LHCling]

Mostly postmidboss. The first half isn't usually that bad, though I sometimes mess it up.

Shotypes are ReimuA and MarisaB

See attachment*. ReimuA is the difficult one here. MarisaB can follow what ReimuA does (or any other Forward Type for that matter); the laser unfortunately isn't too useful in removing certain fairies. It can, but I wouldn't rely on it.

Anyway, from Mid-Boss!Meiling...

• Start from the top-left (not right, for ReimuA), and shotgun the first 2 fairies. In the given replay, I tried 3 but that didn't work. It might work with MarisaB though.
• Then move to the bottom-center
• Enemies come in from the side stream and watch for random white bullets.
• Next wave is objectively the most dangerous. Bomb here if you feel unsafe / RNG gives you the finger. Either way, you should be trying to stream the additional kunai being fired afterward.
• Stream stream stream
• Once the two fairies start coming down, shotgun and kill the left fairy before it fires. If it fires, you need to exercise caution because...
• Shotgun 1 or 2 (I did 2 just because actually) of the top-left fairies, and sit in the top-left corner. If you didn't kill the fairy in the previous point, then get ready to bomb.

Forgot to mention Hailstorm as well.

Raaaaawr dodgaaaan. Apart from the given pseudo-static nature of it, there's not much else to add. Apart from the attack gradually speeding up as the timer decreases.

*_{I do not claim that said replay is an exemplar replay all round; the main purpose here is to show Stage 3 and nothing more.}

Chen's last spell.

Uh, just dodge? Don't try following Chen as well; that's been known to cause a lot of deaths. I'd pay more attention to the faster bullets and would recommend using your peripheral vision to look for openings in the slower cluster of bullets.

This has to be one of the coolest spell card solutions ever

No, it's terrible. Well, I think it's terrible anyway; it took me 8 tries to figure it out. Though, Spell Practice does give said Spell Card an excuse to contain such a "gimmick"...

[Zengeku]

The spellcard is called "Honest Man's Death". The laser is obviously unavoidable, and if you're an honest man you wouldn't lie to yourself about being able to dodge it, so you should just ram into it and stop trying to escape.

At least, this is what I figure. It's one of the reasons I'm so glad for the English patches: sometimes the clue is in the name.

Probably not. ZUN was just drunk. Or expected players to remember that that time's lasers always have a good bit of delay before their hitbox activates.

[Rook]

I just noticed that stalling out one of Orin's midboss noncards lets me skip Cat's Walk.

Is there a trick to Cat's Walk that makes this not worth doing?

[Krimmydoodle]

There's no trick to Catwalk, but if you can get through it with one bomb, I'd say to just push through it.  Timing out a noncard means giving up 2/5 of a life; one life fragment from the noncard, and one from Catwalk, and you may need those life fragments later on.

[Zengeku]

There's no trick to Catwalk, but if you can get through it with one bomb, I'd say to just push through it.  Timing out a noncard means giving up 2/5 of a life; one life fragment from the noncard, and one from Catwalk, and you may need those life fragments later on.

Don't you get 3 fragments for 2 non-spells and Catwalk? Never noticed it but it might be that you don't. Don't you just get a fragment for all non-spells and spells you clear without dying as well as a couple times through the game where ZUN feels like it?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

You don't get a fragment for a timeout. Plus, you then don't see the rest of the midboss fight. So that costs you 2-3 fragments then you have to face an even longer pellet hell.

[Zengeku]

But it might be worth noting that you can stall mid-boss Orin to reduce the time spent in popcorn hell while still beating the non-spells and spellcards and thus getting those fragments.

[Zengeku]

Double post due to complete unrelatedness to earlier post:

Is there any trick to Marisa's 2nd non-spell? I have captured it a couple of times just by dodging but it is a lot harder than any of her other attacks or spells. I was just wondering if there was anyone who knew a trick.

EDIT: It seems that the 2nd non-spell is static. Or at least an attack that can be dodged with the same movements every time. Now i just need to get those movements down and Perfect Marisa shouldn't be too far away.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Any strategy to consistently do EoSD's Death Fairy?

I hate that thing. Doesn't help that I'm out of practice and fail almost everything in the stage now. Used to have a decent chance at clearing, but now it's nonexisistant until I practice more gain.

[Zengeku]

Any strategy to consistently do EoSD's Death Fairy?

I hate that thing. Doesn't help that I'm out of practice and fail almost everything in the stage now. Used to have a decent chance at clearing, but now it's nonexisistant until I practice more gain.

The extra stage one? You will want to look further up the screen than normal to try and anticipate where the walls will be and then move around them.

I just went to verify it and i've reached my conclusion. The death fairy at EoSD Extra is simple read n' dodge. There isn't too many bullets to worry about. The only advice i can give you is to look around the center of the screen to see where the blue waves are being formed and try not to get in the way of those.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

How do I stop sucking at Suwa War?

Losing as many No Bomb attempts as I have been here just sucks. Sure, not derping as much(or at all) earlier would help, but the thing is coming to that I don't know how to properly deal with this thing.

[Helion]

Perfect Blossom Bloom

A little suggestion on Resurrection Butterfly: how do I dodge the red butterflies that go left-right etc?

[Demonbman]

So after finally unlocking DS's extra stage, I'm having trouble with everything on it. Yes, I suck. I'm aware of that, but can I at least have some help?

EDIT: Except EX-6 and EX-4.

 
I believe the trick to EX-1 is to stay to the bottom left or right, then when she fires the talisman, dodge to the other direction, then either take the picture before the talisman turns or when the bullets are spreading out, don't take to long or the next talisman will get you
 
EX-2 is Marisa's Revolving spell right? If so, then get into portrait mode and when marisa is is at the bottom of the screen, get above her and take a picture with the options in it. Then, charge while weaving through the stars, then by the time your fully charged you should be able to take another picture in landscape and get most of the options on the lower left hand screen at the time.
 
I will post more when I get home

[Alice★f]

Sanae's Bumper Crop Rice Shower

1/152

No, seriously. HOW do you do this card?
I tried using the safe spot, but I can't hit Sanae that way, and sometimes, bullets will rain down on me and force me to use bombs until I die.
I can't stop going to the bottom either. This thing ALWAYS messes up my extra runs.

That capture was pure luck, so I'm probably not doing that again.

[Zengeku]

The general strategy i use is to remain under Sanae as much as possible while moving slowly to the side. When i get out of range of Sanae i dash to the side i am moving and start making my way towards the opposite site. I think of it as a streaming attack. Its actually not too hard once you have capped it a couple of times.

[ふねん1]

Sanae's Bumper Crop Rice Shower

1/152

No, seriously. HOW do you do this card?
I tried using the safe spot, but I can't hit Sanae that way, and sometimes, bullets will rain down on me and force me to use bombs until I die.
I can't stop going to the bottom either. This thing ALWAYS messes up my extra runs.

That capture was pure luck, so I'm probably not doing that again.

You said you're staying at the bottom? That's why you're having so much trouble. You need to stay above all those danmaku that are pouring from the lower sides. Anywhere between halfway and two-thirds of the way between the bottom and Sanae will do, and don't try to move too much beyond the middle third or so of the screen. You still have to contend with danmaku from above that look like they "suddenly appear" from behind Sanae, so be sure to pay attention to them while streaming the aimed shots.

Even doing it the "right" way, this is still a pretty tough card, so don't be discouraged.