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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2009, 03:04:28 AM »
Well, at least my favourite character exists.  :V

So does Wriggle.  Your point being~?

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2009, 12:14:33 PM »
Sanae was following the orders of her Goddesses.
Surely you cannot say no to Kanako and Suwako?
She has been since the coming of Gensokyo probably taught that way, by canon, it should be either Suwako or Kanako at fault for giving her false ideas that all youkai have to be 'handled' by humans.
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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2009, 12:23:40 PM »
Also, the games certainly make it sound like getting hit by danmaku is NOT fun. So Reimu still is still hurting them, even if they don't die... And in the case of some of the weaker bosses, it's sometimes unclear just what happened to them after the duel was won, so...

It's a contest. All contests have a winner and a loser, and the loser will always have hurt feelings. Danmaku does spiritual damage, but the loser does recover. Also, I don't ever recall any youkai being challenged by Reimu and opting to run away, only to have Reimu chase them down, corner them, and then engage in the pretty picture contest. On the contrary, the opponent AGREES to fight.

As far as the weaker bosses go, them not appearing in future games does not mean they died. Again, see the spellcard rules.


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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2009, 02:20:07 PM »
Forget all your petty crimes. Let's talk about Kaguya's crimes.

- Drank a potion for no good reason, clearly knowing it was forbidden
Not wanting to die seems a mighty compelling reason to me.
- Denied several men the right to marry her, and sent many of them to supposed suicide
Yeah, what's with these women and not agreeing to satisfy the desires of lust-crazed men? They should be stoned in public or something. 
- Made her "true love" die lonely
Considering that she had to fight the Lunar emissaries and then go into hiding, it seems very understandable the she put her love life in second plane.
- Caused a young and awesome girl to seek revenge, which led her to the curse of immortality
Not really her problem what crazy little girls she never met do.
- Killed said awesome girl on a DAILY basis
And is killed by said girl on a daily basis as well. And incidentally that's the must enjoyable thing they both found in centuries.
- Replaced the freaking MOON
That was Eirin. And in order to protect Kaguya and Reisen.
- Cut off the path between Gensokyo and the Moon
Ditto.
- Attacked the heroines for stopping time flow of the night, which was done to stop the incident
Bitches couldn't wait a few hours before the danger was gone.
- Sent off the heroines to go kill awesome girl
Yeah, that was kinda mean. And lazy.
- NEET
Is that a crime now?
So yeah, Kaguya's the worst Touhou of all.
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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2009, 02:44:39 PM »
Kanako has done some pretty bad things.

First, she tries to shut down the Hakurei Shrine in MoF. This could lead to a deterioration of the Great Hakurei Border that protects Gensokyo, as maintaining it is the main job of the Hakurei Shrine.

Second, she creates Utsuho, an incredibly powerful youkai who decides to go up and raze Gensokyo with nuclear rage, and she doesn't even tell anyone outside of Moriya Shrine that she did. Thank god for Reimu/Marisa being prodded into going down there.

Then, due to what happened when she turned Utsuho into Nuke-tan, the events in UFO were brought about (although nothing bad actually was in danger of happening in this game. But STILL.)

So, the last 3 games were all Kanako's fault. Makes me wonder if the Moriya Shrine will have anything to do with Touhou 13's story~

Oh, and obligatory "Reimu killed Orange for being a helpful, innocent bystander"
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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2009, 02:51:50 PM »
Kanako wanted to take over the Hakurei Shrine, not shut down. Reimu was annoyed because she didn't wanted another boss.

It's not their fault that Okuu is an idiot.

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2009, 04:10:37 PM »
Not quite. In PC-98, she is very obviously nasty.

And yet she still finds time to care for cats.

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2009, 04:16:38 PM »
And yet she still finds time to care for cats.

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Actually one of the Ying-Ying orb's abilities is to turn into a cat. For some reason. One of the others is that you never get fat  :V

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    * Reimu's Yin-Yang Orb exhibits some strange powers, aside from helping her attack her enemies. The greatest powers of the Hakurei Yin-Yang Orb are:
         1. Even if you eat sweets, you won't get fat
         2. One of your favorite aromas can be given off
         3. The yin-yang orb can be disguised as a cat
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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2009, 04:21:14 PM »
Oh, fine. So if reimu sells a kitten to you, and you're a youkai you shouldn't buy it.

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #69 on: November 29, 2009, 06:22:27 PM »
Kanako has done some pretty bad things.

First, she tries to shut down the Hakurei Shrine in MoF. This could lead to a deterioration of the Great Hakurei Border that protects Gensokyo, as maintaining it is the main job of the Hakurei Shrine.

Second, she creates Utsuho, an incredibly powerful youkai who decides to go up and raze Gensokyo with nuclear rage, and she doesn't even tell anyone outside of Moriya Shrine that she did. Thank god for Reimu/Marisa being prodded into going down there.

Then, due to what happened when she turned Utsuho into Nuke-tan, the events in UFO were brought about (although nothing bad actually was in danger of happening in this game. But STILL.)

So, the last 3 games were all Kanako's fault. Makes me wonder if the Moriya Shrine will have anything to do with Touhou 13's story~

Oh, and obligatory "Reimu killed Orange for being a helpful, innocent bystander"

This, this, and THIS.

Also, Reimu. She attacks people without question and kills innocent Youkai. Not only that, but she killed Byakuren for no reason, unless Reimu "doesn't" want to bring order to humans and youkai?
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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #70 on: November 29, 2009, 06:25:26 PM »
I'm not sure which version of UFO you played, but in the version most people played Reimu never killed Byakuren.  Unless the Byakuren in the good endings was really a zombie or something. :V

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #71 on: November 29, 2009, 06:58:02 PM »
EVERYTHING. TOUHOES ARE THE MEANEST PEOPLE I'VE EVER MET.

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #72 on: November 29, 2009, 08:47:32 PM »
Yeah really, all that complaining about that Kaguya and you left out the part where she either helped murder the Lunar emissaries who came to forgive her and welcome her back home or, at the very least, stood by while Eirin did so in her name?

The PC-98 era definitely has less excuse in general. But in the Windows games, besides the Spell Card System being nonlethal, the whole cycle of incidents and extermination is basically for the sake of the youkai. At least, if Perfect Memento is to be believed, there are a couple places it mentions that when they tried just living in peace, youkai became weakened and unhappy. Thus the Spell Card System and the incidents, to give the illusion of constant bitter conflict without the harm of it.

(Since faith and belief are very important forces in Gensokyo, I get from this that youkai, on the whole, need to be seen as humanity's monsters like they originally were conceived to some degree, not just your neighbor with cat ears. We really tend to forget easily that they're, you know, not human.)

All that said, of course, just about all Touhous are big jerks. No question.

Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #73 on: November 29, 2009, 09:22:37 PM »
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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #74 on: November 29, 2009, 09:24:38 PM »
Also, Reimu. She attacks people without question and kills innocent Youkai.

... sigh ...

Can some of you at least have the decency to READ the thread before posting? Or maybe skim the wiki articles of the characters you want to slam?

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #75 on: November 29, 2009, 09:37:31 PM »
All that said, of course, just about all Touhous are big jerks. No question.

Big, cheating jerks. Don't forget the blatant hax and disregard for common sense.

That counts as a terrible thing actually: all Touhous are guilty of terrible crimes against the laws of physics.

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #76 on: November 29, 2009, 10:37:40 PM »
But breaking the laws of physics is a good thing, right?

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #77 on: November 29, 2009, 10:40:25 PM »
But breaking the laws of physics is a good thing, right?

Only when it's consentual. And it rarely is.

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #78 on: November 29, 2009, 10:51:03 PM »


Anyway, more on topic...

I guess the fact that most of the cast are maneating monsters would count, right?  And Sakuya is kind of implied to be a murderer as well...
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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #79 on: December 03, 2009, 09:51:36 PM »
^sakuya is/was a vampire hunter who lost to Remilia and serves her,o.o.

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #80 on: December 03, 2009, 10:03:47 PM »
Big, cheating jerks. Don't forget the blatant hax and disregard for common sense.

That counts as a terrible thing actually: all Touhous are guilty of terrible crimes against the laws of physics.
Gensokyo is filled with cheaters. :S

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2009, 03:44:27 AM »
Sanae was following the orders of her Goddesses.
Surely you cannot say no to Kanako and Suwako?
She has been since the coming of Gensokyo probably taught that way, by canon, it should be either Suwako or Kanako at fault for giving her false ideas that all youkai have to be 'handled' by humans.
I find it quite amusing that when people accuse Sanae of being a nazi in UFO her come with the defense of "She was only following orders", given that the nazis also used the same excuse.
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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #82 on: December 04, 2009, 03:49:20 AM »
Considering youkai usually eat people, can you really blame her for not liking them? =/

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2009, 05:00:49 AM »
Sanae was following the orders of her Goddesses.
Surely you cannot say no to Kanako and Suwako?
She has been since the coming of Gensokyo probably taught that way, by canon, it should be either Suwako or Kanako at fault for giving her false ideas that all youkai have to be 'handled' by humans.

Probably Kanako in both scenarios. I think Sanae didn't even know Suwako existed until after MoF. Which means that Kanako has been the one teaching her this whole time, so...

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #84 on: December 04, 2009, 05:06:05 AM »
Probably Kanako in both scenarios. I think Sanae didn't even know Suwako existed until after MoF. Which means that Kanako has been the one teaching her this whole time, so...

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #85 on: December 04, 2009, 05:11:27 AM »
Sanae type B
諏訪子様の仰るとおりに (Just as Lady Suwako says.)

Quote from: UFO
Sanae type A
"Lady Kanako is telling me to master youkai hunting like they do"

Sanae type B
"Lady Suwako seems certain that I can find something even better than the treasure ship"

Who's to say that she wasn't keeping Kanako's teachings in mind when running errands for Suwako? :V

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #86 on: December 04, 2009, 05:15:24 AM »
Who's to say that she wasn't keeping Kanako's teachings in mind when running errands for Suwako? :V

So Kanako taught her to act like a little Nazi and take pictures with aliens? :V

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #87 on: December 04, 2009, 05:22:59 AM »
So Kanako taught her to act like a little Nazi and take pictures with aliens? :V



Also Yumemi wants to take little girls home and do experiments on them. But she never managed to, so... she hasn't done anything wrong 8)

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #88 on: December 04, 2009, 05:26:50 AM »
i tried to kill someone by stabbing them with a knife but i missed so it's okay

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Re: Terrible things Touhou characters have allegedly done
« Reply #89 on: December 04, 2009, 08:11:17 AM »
Ruro, why'd you have to go and post that. My heart, it's going to burst. orz


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