Author Topic: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)  (Read 98435 times)

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #300 on: February 04, 2010, 10:09:18 AM »
I like version B. My bullets will need opacity similar to IN Remi's. Transparent bullets even. It's not like the enemies are going to complain about invisible bullets :V

Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #301 on: February 04, 2010, 04:24:15 PM »
Alright, I'll keep working on that one.

Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #302 on: February 05, 2010, 08:20:33 PM »

Attempting to reshade+shrink Zengar, also messed with Rou's head a bit. Advice? Something about Zengar's head seems off to me but I can't really figure out what's wrong. Might be the hat, though.

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #303 on: February 05, 2010, 09:02:09 PM »

Something about Zengar's head seems off to me but I can't really figure out what's wrong.

I think it's the fact that Zengar's head is FLOATING ABOVE HIS BODY

:V

Srsly, that shading work looks zomg fantastic. My main critique is that Zengar's legs and body looks too thin and pointed (especially compared to her shoulders which make them look way too broad.) Also, I think it might look better if his arms and legs were less pointed inward, maybe making Zengar's arms look like they're at her sides instead of in front of her.

And Rou's hair, :thumbsup:. Awesome.
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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #304 on: February 05, 2010, 09:34:22 PM »
I think it's the fact that Zengar's head is FLOATING ABOVE HIS BODY

:V

Srsly, that shading work looks zomg fantastic. My main critique is that Zengar's legs and body looks too thin and pointed (especially compared to her shoulders which make them look way too broad.) Also, I think it might look better if his arms and legs were less pointed inward, maybe making Zengar's arms look like they're at her sides instead of in front of her.
That's because all heads are detachable, haven't you ever played with LEGOs? :V


Not sure if I really understood what you meant. I widened Zengar's body a bit and increased the distance between the legs by like 1pixel, and also altered the arms a bit. Does it look any better? (but I didn't actually try making her hands at her sides instead of being in front of the dress. Should I do that?)

Should I move the head up a pixel? I'm worried it looks kind of low, although if I move it up she might look too big like before.

Also tried to round out the hat a bit. Does it look better this way or should I keep it pointed?

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #305 on: February 05, 2010, 10:18:02 PM »
Yeah, the arms and shoulders look much better now. Before, Zengar looked like she had football shoulders and was trying to cover her crotch with her arms, now it just looks like she has poofy shoulders on her outfit. :3

The legs look a bit better, but I think what bothers me is the angle of the legs, how they taper to a point at the feet(compare to Gpop). And while i'm in nitpicky mode, Rou looks kinda small compared to the other two sprites. It's something about the arms and legs throwing me off. Maybe they're too thin? Hm. The legs especially though.

Sorry for being so nitpicky :x
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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #306 on: February 05, 2010, 10:21:47 PM »
Yeah, the arms and shoulders look much better now. Before, Zengar looked like she had football shoulders and was trying to cover her crotch with her arms, now it just looks like she has poofy shoulders on her outfit. :3

The legs look a bit better, but I think what bothers me is the angle of the legs, how they taper to a point at the feet(compare to Gpop). And while i'm in nitpicky mode, Rou looks kinda small compared to the other two sprites. It's something about the arms and legs throwing me off. Maybe they're too thin? Hm. The legs especially though.

Sorry for being so nitpicky :x
Well yeah, I'm going to remake Rou's body, hence why I only had her head there. (Actually I have it done now though it's not very good. I'll post it after I fix Zengar's legs)

What exactly do you mean by "how they taper to a point at the feet"? Should I spread them apart or something?

Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #307 on: February 05, 2010, 10:41:43 PM »
Zengar looks symmetrical. Gpop doesn't. This is the primary reason I like Gpop, and not Zengar. Gpop looks like she's in a very dynamic pose, one that actually makes her look like she's flying... Whereas Zengar looks like she's just standing there, somewhat stiffly, not really doing anything. The previous version of Roukanken had the same problem. I'd recommend a different pose for both Zengar and Roukanken. Also, the shading is stellar, but you could probably take a little less volume out of Zengar's hair, right now her head looks quite wide compared to Gpop's.

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« Reply #308 on: February 05, 2010, 10:48:03 PM »
Yeah, I agree with Naut about liking Gpop the best. What I was trying to say about the legs is that the angle the legs and feet make is like a V, which seems unnatural(and kinda like a barbie doll).
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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #309 on: February 06, 2010, 01:54:46 AM »

Revamped Zengar

Anything more to fix? Kind of tired of spriting for the day, though, so I'll probably wait until tomorrow before I work on it any more.

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #310 on: February 06, 2010, 04:23:53 AM »
Is that a movement pose on the arms? Or is Zengar flexing? I really like the feet and body now though.
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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #311 on: February 06, 2010, 04:32:54 AM »
I like the new hair and legs, but I think the old dress was better.

Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #312 on: February 06, 2010, 04:44:35 AM »
It's supposed to be a superman pose, apparently it's getting used for forward movement as well

Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #313 on: February 06, 2010, 04:57:25 AM »
I like the new hair and legs, but I think the old dress was better.

Zengar has a cloak/trenchcoat, so he remade the sprite. I'll admit I really liked the flexing dress Zengar he made before we found this out, though.

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #314 on: February 06, 2010, 04:05:28 PM »
What do you do for your spriting? I just make character sprite with no shading then use and then use the GIMP burn tool


Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #315 on: February 06, 2010, 08:50:51 PM »
I use mspaint. The Zoom Tool, the Pencil Tool and the Eyedropper are all you really need. Maybe the Fill Bucket, too.

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #316 on: February 06, 2010, 09:02:10 PM »
So you apply the shading pixel by pixel? Let's see if I can do better that way


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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #317 on: February 07, 2010, 12:48:45 AM »
Over IRC I think I've come up with a backstory for Donut at last. Is there a place other than here that I should post it?
nintendonut888: Hey Baity. I beat the high score for Sanae B hard on the score.dat you sent me. X3
Baity: For a moment, I thought you broke 1.1billion. Upon looking at my score.dat, I can assume that you destroyed the score that is my failed (first!) 1cc attempt on my first day of playing. Congratulations.

[19:42] <Sapz> I think that's the only time I've ever seen a suicide bullet shoot its own suicide bullet

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #318 on: February 07, 2010, 12:55:32 AM »
Over IRC I think I've come up with a backstory for Donut at last. Is there a place other than here that I should post it?

Throw it in here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHAwazU4djV1TVZIWW1FUk1WNDlhb1E6MA

You can post it here too if you want, but whatever you do, put it in the spreadsheet so down the line we don't have to look for it when it comes time to rework things and put it all together. And don't worry about submitting multiple copies if you revise it down the line or something.
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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #319 on: February 07, 2010, 01:09:22 AM »
'k. Just a question though: Is the "short description" really supposed to be short, as in a couple paragraphs? :S

EDIT: Whatever. Here's the profile:

Name: Donut

Species: Donut Youkai

Occupation: "Teaches" people danmaku

Power/ability/gimmick: Hyperawareness of bullets, edible wings that are able to regenerate

Location: Rurosaka Shrine

Relationships: Ruro (former shrine maiden to her shrine, caregiver, and apparently her love slave)

Kanako (friend)

Zengar (friend and survivor of teaching)

Official profile: Once, a long time ago, there was a box of delicious donuts. The owner of this box of donuts, eager to satisfy their hunger, ripped open the box to feast upon the contents. In their haste, a single donut fell out of the box and onto the ground. As sad as the person was, they were a sanitory person, and discarded the donut in the garbage can.

A hundred years passed. After the hundreth year, this donut gained sentience, and transformed into a youkai. The bitterness normally present in a youkai born from this fashion was not present though, as her sweet interior balanced it out. She was then named Donut.

For reasons unknown, Donut is highly proficient at dodging danmaku, which she sees as "mere sprinkles." Seeing it as good intentions, she wanders around Ijiyatsu, trying to teach others how to dodge. However, her power tends to overwhelm her students, and many have perished in the attempt to escape her kindness.

One day, Donut was captured by a deity named Ruro and made to be her shrine maiden. Donut was rather resistant at first, but in time she began to enjoy it. Even though she quit taking care of the shrine, she still resides there.

When the idiot energy began going out of control, Donut was not sure what to do. There was little chance of resolving the incident on her own, so she sought out her old acquaintance Zengar, a rare survivor of her danmaku lessons. Together, perhaps they can make a difference and end this incident.

How's that?
« Last Edit: February 07, 2010, 06:09:20 AM by nintendonut888 »
nintendonut888: Hey Baity. I beat the high score for Sanae B hard on the score.dat you sent me. X3
Baity: For a moment, I thought you broke 1.1billion. Upon looking at my score.dat, I can assume that you destroyed the score that is my failed (first!) 1cc attempt on my first day of playing. Congratulations.

[19:42] <Sapz> I think that's the only time I've ever seen a suicide bullet shoot its own suicide bullet

Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #320 on: February 07, 2010, 01:54:23 AM »
Did that person never take out their trash or something? :V

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #321 on: February 07, 2010, 02:12:53 AM »
edible wings that are able to regenerate

Edible wings that can bleed and regenerate is awesome
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for Ruro's fuel
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Eh, I was hoping to see some kind of relationship with Baity. Preferably rivals.

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #322 on: February 07, 2010, 02:21:38 AM »
I need to completely change the crappy Bio I have.

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #323 on: February 07, 2010, 02:25:04 AM »
Donut is Philoctetes and Zengar is her One Last Hope~

* Moerin is shot.

Ow...

I need to completely change the crappy Bio I have.

I'm in the process of doing so for myself right now~  Although as always, the actual profile part is proving the most difficult.  Sigh.
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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #324 on: February 07, 2010, 02:29:58 AM »
Me and Baity can be rivals, sure. The thing is, I don't know Baity's character in Ijiyatsu. >_> Us being rivals can play into our stage 3 dialogue.
nintendonut888: Hey Baity. I beat the high score for Sanae B hard on the score.dat you sent me. X3
Baity: For a moment, I thought you broke 1.1billion. Upon looking at my score.dat, I can assume that you destroyed the score that is my failed (first!) 1cc attempt on my first day of playing. Congratulations.

[19:42] <Sapz> I think that's the only time I've ever seen a suicide bullet shoot its own suicide bullet

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #325 on: February 07, 2010, 06:08:11 AM »
Though you and Baity probably knew each other before the game, that's probably a relationship best saved for dialog. After all, a good amount of what we find out about personality and relationships is found in the dialog, not the bios.



This is good stuff Donut, definitely something we can work with. I said "Short description" mainly because the bios in Touhou manuals are never that long, embodiments would only be getting a few lines each, and to prevent huge elaborate descriptions going into every little detail about the character. But honestly, the more the better since excess can always be cut down, but just keep in mind how long these things are going to be. Yours is pretty much the ideal size for PC bios, i'm thinking. Not too short, not too long.
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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #326 on: February 07, 2010, 07:35:10 AM »

Here's what I have of the forward movement so far. Still probably needs work so advice would be appreciated. Also the entire lower half is still, I probably need to do something about that.

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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #327 on: February 07, 2010, 10:55:13 PM »
I found a nice font.


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Re: [東方意地奴 ~ Touhou Ijiyatsu] - Monarchly Moron (Ver. 1.00f)
« Reply #328 on: February 08, 2010, 01:34:30 AM »

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« Reply #329 on: February 08, 2010, 02:00:06 AM »
DFKai-SB and APJapanesefont, if that's what you mean.

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