Author Topic: Touhou RAGE Thread (Read 176824 times)

Sodium · « **Reply #900 on:** August 06, 2009, 03:15:22 PM »

Doing a Reimu IN hard run to unlock Marisa's Last Word.

1.For some reason, all the music was just some low hum. I'm going to look into that now, but it was REALLY DISTRACTING
2.I choose FinalA by accident. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I just quit after I choose Final A because Eirin's fight is as fun as SoEW.

Edit:Fixed that sound thing. It was a MIDI bug I think(I was using MIDI music for IN)

Alice Fact · « **Reply #901 on:** August 06, 2009, 07:40:40 PM »

oh what the hell

-wanted to go for a no miss on Easy Sikeiki and started getting hit, actually lost

-made a mistake during Easy Kanako that I will not do for while and that is trying to Star off her

still enforcing my "what's the point of moving up to harder difficulties if you can't beat the one below it moderately well", and I think I'm pretty close to that goal for both PoFV and MoF Easys, at least with Reimu(A)

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #902 on:** August 06, 2009, 07:44:15 PM »

Easy Kanako>Normal Kanako in difficulty by a fair margin due to MoF's lol design. It's a game where a spell card on easy can be almost as difficult as the same spell card on hard.

lmagus · « **Reply #903 on:** August 06, 2009, 08:05:03 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on August 06, 2009, 07:44:15 PM

Easy Kanako>Normal Kanako in difficulty by a fair margin due to MoF's lol design. It's a game where a spell card on easy can be almost as difficult as the same spell card on hard.

not even close...

(the spellcard) MoF Normal is easier than MoF easy. but MoF Hard is way way harder than both of them simply because of the speed of the cards..

Easy is harder than Normal because of the pattern differences.. but on Hard it already starts too fast.

Arcengal · « **Reply #904 on:** August 06, 2009, 09:00:39 PM »

I forget who it was, but someone at the Gamefaqs topics once mentioned that MoF was the most memory intensive Lunatic. It's quite true for hard as well, especially stages 3 and 4.

Alice Fact · « **Reply #905 on:** August 06, 2009, 09:03:02 PM »

in terms of survival, maybe. in terms of every aspect of the game, I definitely want to say PCB takes that cake; MoF is probably the simplest of any Windows Touhou games (and tSoEW is overall... ZUN did say something about going back to the basics with MoF)

?q · « **Reply #906 on:** August 06, 2009, 09:23:49 PM »

Quote from: lgb on August 06, 2009, 09:03:02 PM

MoF is probably the simplest of any Windows Touhou games

You're talking about the game where Stage 1 Lunatic is entirely memorize-or-die~~-or-TAS~~?

Yukkuri · « **Reply #907 on:** August 06, 2009, 10:05:21 PM »

Quote from: lmagus on August 06, 2009, 08:05:03 PM

Quote from: nintendonut888 on August 06, 2009, 07:44:15 PM
Easy Kanako>Normal Kanako in difficulty by a fair margin due to MoF's lol design. It's a game where a spell card on easy can be almost as difficult as the same spell card on hard.

not even close...

(the spellcard) MoF Normal is easier than MoF easy. but MoF Hard is way way harder than both of them simply because of the speed of the cards..

Easy is harder than Normal because of the pattern differences.. but on Hard it already starts too fast.

Well on normal, MOF is nothing compared to VoWG.

Easy is hard because you have to move very precisely+ some luck.

VoWG starts throwing "walls" at you that have little space to fly through.

Alice Fact · « **Reply #908 on:** August 07, 2009, 12:06:21 AM »

Easy is hard because you're probably playing with score in mind since it's so easy (opinion), but I have no problem with precise dodging since grazing is fucking useless (fact)

that almost sounds like flamebait, someone give me their opinion on how true or false it is (the opinion) or correct me if grazing has a real purpose (the fact)

theshirn · « **Reply #909 on:** August 07, 2009, 02:35:47 AM »

Quote from: u? on August 06, 2009, 09:23:49 PM

Quote from: lgb on August 06, 2009, 09:03:02 PM
MoF is probably the simplest of any Windows Touhou games
You're talking about the game where Stage 1 Lunatic is entirely memorize-or-die~~-or-TAS~~?

MoF Stage 1 Lunatic FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF----

Alice Fact · « **Reply #910 on:** August 07, 2009, 03:37:06 AM »

any good shmup has memorization somewhere down the line, MoF just isn't as harsh about it as some of the other Touhou games. the complexity takes a significant step down by default because again there is no graze mechanic to speak of

8lue Wizard · « **Reply #911 on:** August 07, 2009, 04:15:34 AM »

PCB stage 4 has long been the bane of my existence. Lyrica's solo card, Dark Keys, in particular, was the last spell card I capped on easy mode, and took almost as many tries as either of Yuyuko's last two cards.

Recently I watched a Lunatic replay from gensokyo.org, and was flabbergasted when I saw them deliberately choose Lyrica's solo. Then I saw it.

What.

Why is Lyrica's Lunatic-mode spellcard EASIER than her Easy-mode one!?

LHCling · « **Reply #912 on:** August 07, 2009, 07:25:54 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxmaw-8UCn0

I'm getting there...

Video does contain HQ (add &fmt=18). I see no notable difference.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #913 on:** August 07, 2009, 07:40:55 AM »

Quote from: BaitySM on August 07, 2009, 07:25:54 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxmaw-8UCn0

I'm getting there...

Video does contain HQ (add &fmt=18). I see no notable difference.

I'd love to see those Cave scorerunners take on Gengetu Rape Time. I'd say this attack surpasses even their TLB final phases.

Alice Fact · « **Reply #914 on:** August 07, 2009, 11:24:39 AM »

why don't you go no-miss that and prove you're a real man

LHCling · « **Reply #915 on:** August 07, 2009, 12:38:57 PM »

Quote from: lgb on August 07, 2009, 11:24:39 AM

why don't you go no-miss that and prove you're a real man

Trying. Not getting very far with it. Considering that you have 2 bombs to use, with each giving about 6-7 seconds total invulnerability, and the entire "Phase" lasting about 1 minute, I'll have to do raw dodging for about 40-45 seconds.

EDIT: ...and that's dodging bullets that are about twice as fast as Kanako's opener, about three times greater in randomess, half the bullets being larger and without a visible hitbox (not that it really matters; focus is all you need).

UFO-related; died horribly on S3.

DgBarca · « **Reply #916 on:** August 07, 2009, 11:30:02 PM »

I was trying PCB Extra with SakuyaA and in a billion of tries I never reached more than 70%
I just tried with ReimuB...81%
That not much, but for me it looks VERY much...1st try with ReimuB...CHARMING SIEGE FROM ALL SIDES I HATE YOU ! (Princess tenko too...)

Sean · « **Reply #917 on:** August 08, 2009, 01:58:46 AM »

Oh hey, best run of PCB Normal I've done yet! Awesome!

....Game crashes and shuts down right after the credits. Cue facepalm and annoyed sigh. Or screaming and cursing if the idea of my frustration amuses you that much.

Yukkuri · « **Reply #918 on:** August 08, 2009, 02:52:36 AM »

Quote from: DgBarca on August 07, 2009, 11:30:02 PM

I was trying PCB Extra with SakuyaA and in a billion of tries I never reached more than 70%
I just tried with ReimuB...81%
That not much, but for me it looks VERY much...1st try with ReimuB...CHARMING SIEGE FROM ALL SIDES I HATE YOU ! (Princess tenko too...)

SakuyaA's damage is terrible. I always time-out Princess Tenko. Took me a lot of tries to beat Ran.
*Tries Marisa B* I beat it on my 2nd try. >_<

Charming Siege From All sides: Go to the bottom right corner, and when she fires the butter flies, tap to avoid them since they are aimed. Then dodge the arrow bullets and she should be low on health once the pattern repeats.

Alice Fact · « **Reply #919 on:** August 08, 2009, 03:30:20 AM »

Quote from: BaitySM on August 07, 2009, 12:38:57 PM

Trying. Not getting very far with it.

I had originally (unsuccessfully) directed that at donut, but good luck all the same

pretty sure that the hitbox in each Windows game is the same, but are the sizes of the hitboxes in the PC-98 games different (either between themselves or compared to the Windows games)?

Sen · « **Reply #920 on:** August 08, 2009, 04:11:16 AM »

I hate you so so so so much.

Those god damned red arrow bullets. ;_;

Generalguy · « **Reply #921 on:** August 08, 2009, 09:55:15 AM »

I failed Fantasy Heaven with 00 seconds left. I hate that Last Word, it's so random, and you need to memorize it anyway.

Is it easier to stay near the edge or park yourself on Reimu? I do the latter for now, but I often go a bit too far and get cards spawned on me. It's easier to memorize though.

DgBarca · « **Reply #922 on:** August 08, 2009, 10:15:38 AM »

Quote from: Yukkuri on August 08, 2009, 02:52:36 AM

Quote from: DgBarca on August 07, 2009, 11:30:02 PM
I was trying PCB Extra with SakuyaA and in a billion of tries I never reached more than 70%
I just tried with ReimuB...81%
That not much, but for me it looks VERY much...1st try with ReimuB...CHARMING SIEGE FROM ALL SIDES I HATE YOU ! (Princess tenko too...)
SakuyaA's damage is terrible. I always time-out Princess Tenko. Took me a lot of tries to beat Ran.
*Tries Marisa B* I beat it on my 2nd try. >_<

Charming Siege From All sides: Go to the bottom right corner, and when she fires the butter flies, tap to avoid them since they are aimed. Then dodge the arrow bullets and she should be low on health once the pattern repeats.

You mean Princess Tenko ? Hum, I Fail more on Charming Siege...But Ran I hate you

LHCling · « **Reply #923 on:** August 08, 2009, 12:27:58 PM »

You would think that after I've improved a hefty amount, that I would do better at MS Extra (overall; excluding my miraculous 1LC from months ago).

...turns out that I'm not proficient at fighting Alice anymore... (1 bomb the stage portion... which is impossible to perfect with Yuka I believe). Guess I'll be recording my 1LC with a Non-Yuka character it seems...

New high score though.

...

EDIT:

Of all the things that I do... you can even tell which direction I'm going by the hair movement.

EDIT 2: I need sleep, typos like that are horrible.

Quote from: lgb on August 08, 2009, 03:30:20 AM

I had originally (unsuccessfully) directed that at donut, but good luck all the same

pretty sure that the hitbox in each Windows game is the same, but are the sizes of the hitboxes in the PC-98 games different (either between themselves or compared to the Windows games)?

'nut won't try that I would imagine. Then again, who in the right mind would?

PC-98 hitboxes are about (if not exactly the same) as large as the Windows' hitboxes.

Yukkuri · « **Reply #924 on:** August 08, 2009, 06:27:55 PM »

Quote from: DgBarca on August 08, 2009, 10:15:38 AM

Quote from: Yukkuri on August 08, 2009, 02:52:36 AM
Quote from: DgBarca on August 07, 2009, 11:30:02 PM
I was trying PCB Extra with SakuyaA and in a billion of tries I never reached more than 70%
I just tried with ReimuB...81%
That not much, but for me it looks VERY much...1st try with ReimuB...CHARMING SIEGE FROM ALL SIDES I HATE YOU ! (Princess tenko too...)
SakuyaA's damage is terrible. I always time-out Princess Tenko. Took me a lot of tries to beat Ran.
*Tries Marisa B* I beat it on my 2nd try. >_<

Charming Siege From All sides: Go to the bottom right corner, and when she fires the butter flies, tap to avoid them since they are aimed. Then dodge the arrow bullets and she should be low on health once the pattern repeats.

You mean Princess Tenko ? Hum, I Fail more on Charming Siege...But Ran I hate you

No Charming siege also has butterflies.

Generalguy · « **Reply #925 on:** August 08, 2009, 06:33:27 PM »

Quote from: Yukkuri on August 08, 2009, 06:27:55 PM

Quote from: DgBarca on August 08, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Yukkuri on August 08, 2009, 02:52:36 AM
Quote from: DgBarca on August 07, 2009, 11:30:02 PM
I was trying PCB Extra with SakuyaA and in a billion of tries I never reached more than 70%
I just tried with ReimuB...81%
That not much, but for me it looks VERY much...1st try with ReimuB...CHARMING SIEGE FROM ALL SIDES I HATE YOU ! (Princess tenko too...)
SakuyaA's damage is terrible. I always time-out Princess Tenko. Took me a lot of tries to beat Ran.
*Tries Marisa B* I beat it on my 2nd try. >_<

Charming Siege From All sides: Go to the bottom right corner, and when she fires the butter flies, tap to avoid them since they are aimed. Then dodge the arrow bullets and she should be low on health once the pattern repeats.

You mean Princess Tenko ? Hum, I Fail more on Charming Siege...But Ran I hate you
No Charming siege also has butterflies.

Charming Siege has bubbles and lines of diamond bullets (4th spell). What you're talking about is Unilateral Contact, with the butterflies going in circles followed by red bullets (7th spell).

Yukkuri · « **Reply #926 on:** August 08, 2009, 06:37:58 PM »

Quote from: Generalguy on August 08, 2009, 06:33:27 PM

Quote from: Yukkuri on August 08, 2009, 06:27:55 PM
Quote from: DgBarca on August 08, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Yukkuri on August 08, 2009, 02:52:36 AM
Quote from: DgBarca on August 07, 2009, 11:30:02 PM
I was trying PCB Extra with SakuyaA and in a billion of tries I never reached more than 70%
I just tried with ReimuB...81%
That not much, but for me it looks VERY much...1st try with ReimuB...CHARMING SIEGE FROM ALL SIDES I HATE YOU ! (Princess tenko too...)
SakuyaA's damage is terrible. I always time-out Princess Tenko. Took me a lot of tries to beat Ran.
*Tries Marisa B* I beat it on my 2nd try. >_<

Charming Siege From All sides: Go to the bottom right corner, and when she fires the butter flies, tap to avoid them since they are aimed. Then dodge the arrow bullets and she should be low on health once the pattern repeats.

You mean Princess Tenko ? Hum, I Fail more on Charming Siege...But Ran I hate you
No Charming siege also has butterflies.

Charming Siege has bubbles and lines of diamond bullets (4th spell). What you're talking about is Unilateral Contact, with the butterflies going in circles followed by red bullets (7th spell).

Frick I was thinking about 12 general gods.

For charming siege don't get hit by the border, and believe in the power of the hit box. The bubble bullets are smaller than it looks.

nacho · « **Reply #927 on:** August 08, 2009, 07:44:17 PM »

EoSD hard 1cc attempt -> died on Remi's final.

Afterwards, IN hard 1cc FinalB attempt -> died on Kaguya's final.

Two hours later, MoF normal 1cc attempt -> died on Kanako's final.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Arcengal · « **Reply #928 on:** August 08, 2009, 08:27:29 PM »

+25 more failed attempts at VoWG.

I don't think any game other than Touhou has made me think "I'm too tired to possibly do this".

Alice Fact · « **Reply #929 on:** August 08, 2009, 09:25:06 PM »

try IN Final A nacho