Author Topic: Touhou RAGE Thread (Read 176851 times)

ClockworkDreams · « **Reply #780 on:** July 17, 2009, 01:30:00 PM »

Even though it wasn't on an excellent run of LLS, it still made me rage when my antivirus randomly popped up, blocking the window and preventing me from doing anything for a crucial second. I lost a life with a full stock of bombs from that one.

This shouldn't be happening again though.

Lopsidation · « **Reply #781 on:** July 17, 2009, 04:28:27 PM »

Last night I was playing IN extra. I had one of my best runs ever, but I finally lost on Hourai Doll.

The thing is, I would have been able to clear it, except after beating the midboss I missed the 1-up item.

Generalguy · « **Reply #782 on:** July 17, 2009, 08:10:15 PM »

How changing MoF to 16 Bit didn't change anything, the lag is still there. I'm not sure what rendering rate does, so I'm not screwing with that for now.

The MoF deathbomb window. I don't know how long it is, but I have more problems with it than on EoSD. Does the vsync patch change anything?

Maybe I shouldn't play for now. My vision is a bit blurry and it greatly affects my skill. I'm too hot and too tired to continue.

Drake · « **Reply #783 on:** July 17, 2009, 08:33:22 PM »

Changing the rendering rate to 1/2 means it only processes half the frames. It looks a bit choppy, but doesn't affect gameplay much.

Zengar Zombolt · « **Reply #784 on:** July 17, 2009, 08:35:46 PM »

Quote from: Generalguy on July 17, 2009, 08:10:15 PM

I'm too hot and ~~too tired~~ bothered to continue.

At least tell the truth.
Also, Omoikane's Brain. IT GETS ME ALWAYS.

Generalguy · « **Reply #785 on:** July 17, 2009, 09:06:31 PM »

Quote from: The sword that cleaves evil on July 17, 2009, 08:35:46 PM

Quote from: Generalguy on July 17, 2009, 08:10:15 PM
I'm too hot and ~~too tired~~ bothered to continue.
At least tell the truth.
Also, Omoikane's Brain. IT GETS ME ALWAYS.

1) My eyes were really greasy, and not just because I sweat a lot.
2) Ever heard of RegalSin? :V

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #786 on:** July 17, 2009, 09:16:36 PM »

Omoikane's Brain is possibly the worst spell card in the entire series. What it asks you to do is completely unfair:

Move around this extremely right space, while this laser is making you have 0.2 seconds margin of error, while I FUCKING CLOUD YOUR VISION WITH IRRELEVANT BULLETS.

bjw · « **Reply #787 on:** July 17, 2009, 10:05:13 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on July 17, 2009, 09:16:36 PM

Omoikane's Brain is possibly the worst spell card in the entire series. What it asks you to do is completely unfair:

Move around this extremely right space, while this laser is making you have 0.2 seconds margin of error, while I FUCKING CLOUD YOUR VISION WITH IRRELEVANT BULLETS.

Seems to differ from player to player, but I've always found Omoikane's Brain absolutely trivial, going as far as to running down the clock no-focus.

Apollo 13, on the other hand, is lol.

Sapz · « **Reply #788 on:** July 18, 2009, 11:03:07 PM »

THAT IS BULLSHIT

I was just trying a Hard 1cc of MS. Got to Shinki with three lives left in stock, as well as a bomb. Did well up to the fourth last phase, where for some reason the frame rate kept switching between normal and something like THREE FRAMES PER SECOND for NO REASON WHATSOEVER (this has never happened to me before). Bombspammed that phase to beat it, third last phase is with the evil curving bullets... used the last bomb on the life, died, and then died again with all three bombs in stock, which was I think the first time in the whole game where I died without using all the bombs first. Second last phase, usually easy, except the THREE FRAMES PER SECOND THING KICKED IN AGAIN AND MADE ME LOSE MY LAST LIFE WHAT THE SHIT ARGHHHH

The most annoying thing is that after I continued the lag cut out and I beat the rest of the phase and the whole of the last phase losing no bombs and no lives.

GODDAMMIT.

lmagus · « **Reply #789 on:** July 19, 2009, 01:58:38 AM »

FUCKING SHIT

got TWICE to Kanako's last spellcard on Hard today

VoWG is BS

I need to get MUCH better and reach it with at least 2 lives to spare if I want to finish the game

Arcengal · « **Reply #790 on:** July 19, 2009, 02:30:38 AM »

It's not nearly as bad on Hard as it is on Lunatic.

The best advice I can give you is to damage race it. Go in at 5 power, shoot Kanako from the word go and move as little as possible. If you've done it right, she'll have lost 60-70% of her health by the time the walls start coming. After that, it should be a breeze.

Nuclear Fusion · « **Reply #791 on:** July 19, 2009, 04:48:52 AM »

Seriously stage 3, why the hate? I can do every part of you perfectly. Why won't you let me do it all perfectly in one go, huh? Would that be so bad?

I'm tempted just to say screw it and come back another time to Alice. There's no reason I should be failing this much, she's really not that bad.

lmagus · « **Reply #792 on:** July 19, 2009, 04:52:33 AM »

WTF =(

PCB Normal FAIL

Got to Yuyuko with 3 lives. Got nowhere near finishing it.

damnit =(

Sen · « **Reply #793 on:** July 19, 2009, 03:17:55 PM »

Yesterday I opened up PoFV and decided not to use Reisen or Yuka, as I usually do. I picked Cirno on a whim.

I usually can't even beat the game with Reisen and Yuka, I always get raped by Sakuya/Komachi/Shiki.
Beat the whole game getting hit four times total. One on Yuka, three on Shiki. It was fucking amazing and the Yuka match was the most intense thing I've ever done in Touhou.

I went to save the replay and LOL GAME CANNOT BE READ TERMINATE TERMINATE TERMINATE

Yukkuri · « **Reply #794 on:** July 19, 2009, 11:47:48 PM »

Today is not a good day for MOF. I keep on dieing stupid deaths on stage 1+2.

lmagus · « **Reply #795 on:** July 20, 2009, 12:01:19 AM »

Quote from: Yukkuri on July 19, 2009, 11:47:48 PM

Today is not a good day for MOF. I keep on dieing stupid deaths on stage 1+2.

QFT

Yesterday I got to Kanako 3 times on Hard. I was sure I'd finish it today.
Stages 1, 2 and 3 mistakes kept me from even reaching stage 6 today. I played for over 4 hours =P

LHCling · « **Reply #796 on:** July 20, 2009, 04:57:33 AM »

It's clear that I seem to be having trouble with HRtP Lunatic.

Streaming is just not my style. At least I learned that you can slide-kick snowballs out of your way.

*insert countless number of Game Overs*

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #797 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:06:36 AM »

Let me tells ya Baity. The most important thing to HRtP lunatic IIRC is accuracy. Other than a few situations, the bullets being added don't actually add that much difficulty, since they are simple streaming. The most important thing is to hit all the cards ASAP, but even more so on the bosses. The faster you end Kikuri's first phase the better.

LHCling · « **Reply #798 on:** July 20, 2009, 06:14:29 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on July 20, 2009, 05:06:36 AM

The faster you end Kikuri's first phase the better.

I need to work on that. I seem to be currently averaging 4-5 lives / bombs being used up here. And then there's Stage 16. Once those two are done with, I'm quite sure I can finish off HRtP Lunatic Hell / Jigoku.

_{On the other hand, I seem to be now consistently getting 1-bomb / perfect Mima runs now. Maybe it's because I have now realized that basically everything is static.}

EDIT: ...I think this would be a good time to stop, and rethink.

Generalguy · « **Reply #799 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:42:09 PM »

I have three times more trouble activating a deathbomb in MoF than on EoSD. It just never works.

lmagus · « **Reply #800 on:** July 21, 2009, 03:16:42 AM »

I'll say it again

VoWG is total bullshit.

I'm giving up on this game for the time being.

Even on practice mode, the best I can do is finish stage 6 losing 3 lives.

Yukkuri · « **Reply #801 on:** July 21, 2009, 10:38:54 PM »

Quote from: lmagus on July 21, 2009, 03:16:42 AM

I'll say it again

VoWG is total bullshit.

I'm giving up on this game for the time being.

Even on practice mode, the best I can do is finish stage 6 losing 3 lives.

The practice all of the stages so you have at least three lives.

Generalguy · « **Reply #802 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:27:29 AM »

MoF, the game in general.

No deathbomb really annoy the hell out of me. Sure, you have like 6 frames after a hit to activate a bomb (minus a possible bombing lag, but that could be me inventing stuff because I'm pissed off), but it's completely useless when you get surprised by a bullet, which is the only thing a deathbomb is useful for (survival-wise). At least the bullets were easy to see in EoSD and didn't blend with the background all the time. Why is the background so stupidly bright?

[Coherent thoughts coming back...]

I'll continue 1cc-ing the games on Normal and Easy with everybody before I start trying Hard. I should get better this way, and I won't feel like punching my laptop. Otherwise I might hate the games enough to take another 2 months break from them.

lmagus · « **Reply #803 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:52:16 PM »

I don't think i've ever deathbombed in MoF.
I thought it just wasn't possible. As far as I see, you die imediately after being hit, so I could never do it.

Yukkuri · « **Reply #804 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:21:14 PM »

I've deathbombed in MOF before. but I pressed the bomb button even before the bullet hit me.

mark2000 · « **Reply #805 on:** July 22, 2009, 05:12:58 PM »

@Imagus

Not really. It's still possible to deathbomb in MoF but it's not exactly practical due to how short the window is. Most experiences I had with deathbombing in MoF were purely accidental when I'm using bombs to clear bullets.

Drake · « **Reply #806 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:54:24 PM »

I just spent almost two hours trying to TAS Flandre.

Conclusion: EoSD sucks.

?q · « **Reply #807 on:** July 22, 2009, 09:40:05 PM »

Quote from: Drake on July 22, 2009, 08:54:24 PM

Conclusion: EoSD Extra sucks.

Fixed for much greater precision.

You totally need to TAS PCB Extra. I've always wanted to see someone dodge Wizard Fox's Thoughts in a way that doesn't make it trivial. Chen's cards, Banquet of the Guardian Gods, Charming Siege, and maybe Unilateral Contact would also be good TAS attacks.

Drake · « **Reply #808 on:** July 22, 2009, 10:00:10 PM »

Yeah, PCB in general is crazy great to do stuff with, but the problem I have with Extra stages is that slowed down they take like two fucking hours to do one run. Which means if I screw up more than I can handle, I definitely won't be in the mood to do it again.

I did that TAS of IN Extra, but it desyncs because I used code to stop me from dying as well to make it look nicer. It's got up to Keine and then dies.

Yoslime · « **Reply #809 on:** July 24, 2009, 03:02:13 PM »

Quote from: Generalguy on July 22, 2009, 02:27:29 AM

MoF, the game in general.

No deathbomb really annoy the hell out of me. Sure, you have like 6 frames after a hit to activate a bomb (minus a possible bombing lag, but that could be me inventing stuff because I'm pissed off), but it's completely useless when you get surprised by a bullet, which is the only thing a deathbomb is useful for (survival-wise). At least the bullets were easy to see in EoSD and didn't blend with the background all the time. Why is the background so stupidly bright?

You need to alter your perceptions of deathbombing.
Let me quote something from Japanese Touhou wiki...

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Quote from: 東方攻略Wiki
いろんなところで言われていますが、
「当たると思った瞬間」ではなく「危ないと思った瞬間」にボム。これが重要です。
ギリギリまで粘る必要はどこにもありません。使いすぎじゃない？　と思うくらい使ってください。
避けられるか避けられないかの極限のガチ勝負は、ボムが全部なくなってからで大丈夫。
もったいないと思うかもしれませんが、ボムを使わないまま死ぬ方がよっぽどもったいないです。
As it's often said (among Japanese community), you should bomb when "the moment you feel you're in danger", NOT "the moment you feel you're hit". This is important.
You don't have to play tenaciously. Use the bombs as much as you feel it's too much.
Leave the extreme duel whether you can dodge or not AFTER your bomb had run out.
You might think it's a waste, but death while holding bombs is far more severe waste.

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Quote from: 東方攻略Wiki
食らいボムとは、被弾後数フレームのうちにボムを使えばミスを帳消しにできるシステムのことです。
と書くと誤解する人がたまにいますが、
「食らいボム」とは「当たってから押しても間に合うボム」ではありません。
ヤバいと思った時にボムボタンを押して、そのタイミングがほんの少し遅れた時のための救済措置。
それが「食らいボム」です。
狙って出せるものではないので、そこを間違っているとどんどん死にます。
なお、これと「ラストスペル」は全くの別物です。
"Deathbomb" is a feature that if you use a bomb during a few frames after you're hit, you can write off the death.
-- Some people may misunderstand if I write like this, so let me clarify.
"Deathbomb" is NOT a bomb that "you can make it after you realize to get hit".
It's a bailout feature if you couldn't make it by a mere touch. That's the concept of "deathbomb".
It's not a kind of thing that you can aspire to, so if you have a wrong idea of it you'll lose your lives quite rapidly.
In addition, "deathbomb" and "Last spell" are COMPLETELY different things.

Author Topic: Touhou RAGE Thread (Read 176851 times)

ClockworkDreams

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