Touhou RAGE Thread

[?lice Bl?ckb?rn]

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So I'm doing extremely well on VoWG timeout attempt #I've lost count a long time ago already. Get down to 30 seconds on one life. By this time I'm shaking so badly I can barely control my player sprite.

Finally, at the 28 second mark the shaking gets the better of me and I PLOW into a set of amulets that I could have easily avoided. I promptly wind up ragequitting MoF at this point.

Seriously. What the hell.

Gah.

[LHCling]

3 more seconds.

...I think removing headphones may help.

EDIT: I can't read the waves fast enough.
EDIT 2: SoEW.

[Kanako Yasaka]

Ex Alice's first phase is officially my least favorite attack in MS. Yes, I know the trick. No, it doesn't help.

[Azinth]

Recollection:  Double Black Death Butterfly... This is one of the hardest cards in the series, right?  Please someone say it's 'hardest in the series' material, for the sake of my own sanity.  I've attempted it 70 times, which is more times than my tries for Resurrection Butterfly, and I STILL HAVEN'T FREAKING CAPTURED IT.

[LHCling]

Recollection:  Double Black Death Butterfly... This is one of the hardest cards in the series, right?  Please someone say it's 'hardest in the series' material, for the sake of my own sanity.  I've attempted it 70 times, which is more times than my tries for Resurrection Butterfly, and I STILL HAVEN'T FREAKING CAPTURED IT.

It's difficult. It's got rather high HP. It can BS you to death. But it really isn't the hardest in the series. It's up there though.

brb unlocking for Lunatic, then I'll work it down.

[?lice Bl?ckb?rn]

But it really isn't the hardest in the series. It's up there though.

What? DDBBullshitfly Lunatic is quite easily one of the hardest cards in SA, and definetly one of the hardest in the series.

Minor clarification: at least ONE of the Satori Recollection cards will be Hardest Card in the Series material for someone. This winds up differing a lot, strangely enough. I personally find Laser Rain much more hellish, but both are pretty fucking hard. Satori's enormous healthbars certainly don't help at all, either.

[LHCling]

What? DDBBullshitfly Lunatic is quite easily one of the hardest cards in SA, and definetly one of the hardest in the series.

Minor clarification: at least ONE of the Satori Recollection cards will be Hardest Card in the Series material for someone. This winds up differing a lot, strangely enough. I personally find Laser Rain much more hellish, but both are pretty fucking hard. Satori's enormous healthbars certainly don't help at all, either.

It's more BS than difficult. Like most other Spell Cards that throw tremendous amounts of random bullets around.

I personally find myself dying more often on Recollection "Trauma in the Glimmering Depths". (a.k.a. MarisaC, 3rd Spell Card)

[Azinth]

It's more BS than difficult. Like most other Spell Cards that throw tremendous amounts of random bullets around.

I personally find myself dying more often on Recollection "Trauma in the Glimmering Depths". (a.k.a. MarisaC, 3rd Spell Card)

Out of curiosity, what exactly is the difference between 'BS' and 'difficult'? All attacks with an element of randomization will have will depend a tiny bit on luck to some degree.  I've had a few moments where DDBB trapped me, but mostly it's just an extremely hard and confusing card. 

And also, isn't Trauma in the Glimmering Depths static?  I know the MoF version is, unless the Recollection version completely changes it up.

[Vile Lasagna]

Satori almost manages to rebalance Yukari so that it's not obviously superior to bloody everyone else... but then again, ALMOST...

[LHCling]

Out of curiosity, what exactly is the difference between 'BS' and 'difficult'? All attacks with an element of randomization will have will depend a tiny bit on luck to some degree.  I've had a few moments where DDBB trapped me, but mostly it's just an extremely hard and confusing card. 

And also, isn't Trauma in the Glimmering Depths static?  I know the MoF version is, unless the Recollection version completely changes it up.

BS = factor which modifies difficulty.
Consider the difficulty a base, C.

When I say "It's more BS than difficult", I mean that luck is more involved than what it should really be.

Overall difficulty can be considered being a relation between the two, say OD α (C ? BS). i.e. overall difficulty is proportional to a base difficulty, give or take a "luck" factor. Some cards have a higher degree of "BS" than others. And the longer the card goes for, the larger the luck factor is involved (usually). An example is Eternal Meek throwing a high speed wall at me from the start of the card, shaped "∩". Contrast with... BoWaP. Static. Fixed difficulty.

Recollection "Trauma in the Glimmering Depths" is (partial) static I believe. But it's so damned hard to navigate. I can never position myself correctly, and even if I could, I have an absurd chance of clipping a bullet.

[Zengeku]

Seriously, why the hell are these computers here at school so damn good if they're simply going to waste them? They don't even need XP for the kind of crap they use them for. >_<

Where did you find that computer anyway? Its ought to be antique. At least you don't have a horrible keyboard that only works when it feels like it. Though with all those framerate issues i can understand you are suffering from a rebellous keyboard would be the least of your problems. I hate that keyboard of mine. I should really get another one soon. Its not just a bad excuse either. I have found that some keyboards play Touhou much better while others constantly "misinterpret" key input like interpreting a slight tap as a "move to the far eastern border of the screen" and other times it doesn't even move apparently because i don't tap the key hard enough. Thats worthless but the real reason i came here to this rage thread was not raging over my keyboard, even though it deserves it, but more... the Virtue of Wind God on the Lunatic setting.

Goddammit. I have been toying around with Virtue of Wind God Lunatic and the closest i have been to beat it is 2 deaths with Reimu A. I just don't get how you are supposed to read the way through/around those overlapping amulet walls in the blink of an eye. Its annoying as hell and reviewing the replays have almost every time explained my death by having me trying to go through a wave when there was a much better way out of it waaay over there. I guess there is nothing i can do but keep grinding.

But not more today. I have just reached the point where i am worn out. Dying in the most ridiculous ways and feeling like not being able to concentrate and dying more often to VoWG... its time for a break until tomorrow.

BS = factor which modifies difficulty.
Consider the difficulty a base, C.

When I say "It's more BS than difficult", I mean that luck is more involved than what it should really be.

Overall difficulty can be considered being a relation between the two, say OD α (C ? BS). i.e. overall difficulty is proportional to a base difficulty, give or take a "luck" factor. Some cards have a higher degree of "BS" than others. And the longer the card goes for, the larger the luck factor is involved (usually). An example is Eternal Meek throwing a high speed wall at me from the start of the card, shaped "∩". Contrast with... BoWaP. Static. Fixed difficulty.

Recollection "Trauma in the Glimmering Depths" is (partial) static I believe. But it's so damned hard to navigate. I can never position myself correctly, and even if I could, I have an absurd chance of clipping a bullet.

ENOUGH ABOUT THOSE GEEKY POSTS BAITY!  Well, to my knowledge Trauma of the Glimmering Depths is static yes but the clip bullets Nitori fire is somewhat aimed at you. As for SA i have only got experience with the Normal mode version and in that one you have to more or less stream the aimed shots in order to avoid blocking yourself.

[theshirn]

SHOOT THE BULLET IS A GODDAMN STUPID GAME WHAT THE HELL WAS ZUN THINKING

[Azinth]

Oh son of a bitch, screw DBDB.  80 failed attempts, and I've had at least seven instances where I was a sliver of lifebar away from capturing it only to have it wall me at the very last second.  That thing is a piece of luck-garbage bullshit and I don't care about it anymore.

[nintendonut888]

SHOOT THE BULLET IS A GODDAMN STUPID GAME WHAT THE HELL WAS ZUN THINKING

StB is a perfectly fine game. It's simply very hard.

Oh son of a bitch, screw DBDB.  80 failed attempts, and I've had at least seven instances where I was a sliver of lifebar away from capturing it only to have it wall me at the very last second.  That thing is a piece of luck-garbage bullshit and I don't care about it anymore.

I hate Double Death Butterfly too, but it's not luck based garbage. You need to learn to see through the chaos and see the individual bullets coming at you. Have you learned how to do that yet?

[DarkHedge]

FUCK. YOU. NITORI.

...

yes I fail to her in NORMAL. LAUGH NOW

[Vile Lasagna]

FUCK. YOU. NITORI.

...

yes I fail to her in NORMAL. LAUGH NOW

ROFLMAO

If it is some measure of relief, although I handle Nitori somewhat well, when I'm facing SATORI AS NITORI... oh gods, the pain.... I really miss Aya and Alice then...

The funny exception being Kappa's Pororoca. I fail that hard as hell in MoF but am quite good at it in SA.... weird.... And also, WTF with Kappa's POROROCA? Pororoca is a thing that happens in the bloody AMAZON river. In BRAZIL. Gensokyou is somewhere in the mythical land of JAPAN (everyone speaks japanese, blah). And there AREN'T kappa in the Amazon river, the piranas ate them all hundreds of thousands of years ago... Learn your geography Zun!

edit: lol... just noticed this actually brought my post back on topic...

[DarkHedge]

Well... Remilia and Flandre aren't even japanese CHARACTER NAMES. They're more from around where I am. (France, possibly Belgium)

[Yukkuri]

Well... Remilia and Flandre aren't even japanese CHARACTER NAMES. They're more from around where I am. (France, possibly Belgium)

Yeah.  Flandre is very French

[Vile Lasagna]

Yeah, but Remi and Flandre are obviously foreigners, even more so than Suwako & Co. (their names, their castle, Zun's comments on EoSD soundtrack, Remi's fascination with Dracula...)

[Zengeku]

FUCK. YOU. NITORI.

...

yes I fail to her in NORMAL. LAUGH NOW

Why? There is no reason to mock you just because of that.

[Vile Lasagna]

Why? There is no reason to mock you just because of that.

Come on mate, be polite and do what he says!

[Yukkuri]

Yeah, but Remi and Flandre are obviously foreigners, even more so than Suwako & Co. (their names, their castle, Zun's comments on EoSD soundtrack, Remi's fascination with Dracula...)

I'm semi-sure that Yukari gapped into Gensokyo

[Vile Lasagna]

I'm semi-sure that Yukari gapped into Gensokyo

I actually think she MADE Gensokyou as a sort of lifetime countryside resort for her friends to live in. Hard to imagine the Hakurei people pulling that one off by themselves

[stargroup]

GODDAMN
I got to the last spell in MoF stage 2 Lunatic true pacifist without dying.
I die on the last card 4 times. FUCK THAT CARD

SHOOT THE BULLET IS A GODDAMN STUPID GAME WHAT THE HELL WAS ZUN THINKING

StB is great initially because it's nothing but spell practice, which will get people to become good very quickly. Unfortunately, many of the later spell cards completely depend on the camera to get rid of bullets, which is completely stupid imo.

[LHCling]

ReimuA is a scorewhore, even with 0 initial graze, see: 228,914,530. Also BSBS timeout w/ 1 Death. Ignore basically everything else where I die please. Especially BoWaP, I hate fast bullets. Not to mention that random and stupid mistake where I attempted to swing around the incorrect wave. Blah blah blah blah.

Either way, I believe I've found a safer method of capturing "BSBS". Going to test it after lunch.

EDIT: right... Recollection "Terrifying Hypnotism" bugged on me. One of the lasers lasted longer than what it was supposed to be. Insert clipdeath of the worst kind; ramming into a laser.

[nintendonut888]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I...WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?! REMILIA, WHAT THE FUCK?

...

So...anyone ever have a nice run going? Enter Remilia 2/1 on lunatic...then lose everything on Young Demon Lord?

First death...entirely my fault. I tried moving unfocused to dodge a wave. Next life, I go in between the lasers...and I die. No shit. There was no fucking way that was real, the lasers had already fired and I was safe and everything. And then I can't even remember what happened next, but you know how it ended? A FDSFKJASDFKLJASDKLFJASDXFKLJADLJADSFLK DEATH!!!!!!!! Other than dying to Hailstorm, this run was so great...everything went as planned...AND I LOSE IT ALL IN THE SPAN OF THIRTY SECONDS! Rage continuing, I die to Remilia's third non card...sorry did you hear something? I think my appendix just burst somehow. But you know what? That death was bullshit too! I was in between the knives! The wave was halfway through and I suddenly died for some arbitrary reason without moving!

GOD

DAMN

IT

...In other news, it looks like Marisa A is the way to go after all.

[Zengeku]

Come on mate, be polite and do what he says!

Alright then. ROFL, OMG, LMAO, how the hell did you manage to fail at Nitori. Duh! She is like super-easy! Man, if you don't think Mountain of Faith Normal mode is easy you must be super-retarded. Your parents should be ashamed of you. Oh, look! There's a bus. Its three miles away from you. See if you can dodge it!! HAAHAHA!!!

I'm sorry if that was too much mockery. (If it was, don't worry. It won't happen again. I feel like a complete idiot doing it right now, but you asked for it. Quite literally.)

[Azinth]

What the hell was I thinking?

I tried SoEW on Hard.  Oh god this game is such a horrible wreck I don't even.  I'd played this game like three times before in my entire Touhou career, and today I tried seeing if it was just as bad as I remember it being.

It actually wasn't really.  Despite dying twice to Miera's bouncy rubber balls of doom, I made it pretty far.  I gameover'd at Marisa.  AT THE EXACT MOMENT SHE DIED.  It was especially infuriating considering I was about 10k points away from an extend, not to mention Mima gives you another one right at the beginning of her battle. 

Though considering I got so far despite my limited experience, I guess Donut was right when he said this was one of the easiest Touhou games.  Well, every stage from 2 onwards contains at least 2-3 nigh-undodgeable patterns, but the stuff in between said patterns is a complete joke.  It's more just knowing when to bomb than actual dodging.

[SONIC BHOCOLATE STRIKER]

I can't beat any of the games. Ever. I almost always make a catastrophic stream of mistakes in the middle of stages 1 or 2. On a good run I get to stage 5 and my game ends. On a bad run I restart stage 1 about 10 times because I made a few stupid mistakes <_<

I'm going to try to beat 11 again. I probably won't get anywhere. But I'm persistent.

(Note: by "beat" I mean 1cc: I never continue. I don't know why, but I don't. And if I do, my skill level instantly drops to 0.)

[Arcengal]

If you can't beat any of the games, SA isn't your best shot. It's one of the most difficult.

EoSD will teach you more about where your hitbox is.
IN is arguably the easiest of the series.