Touhou RAGE Thread

[nintendonut888]

The method I've learned is that you need to be able to predict where the columns are going to appear by reading them before they stretch out. Once you learn whether you have to go in the lanes or dodge outside of them it's all down to dodging, but that makes it a lot easier.

[theshirn]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Virtue of Wind God.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

The only time I can make those truly ninja dodges and escape from what seems a certain wall, or go through a line of cards, is after I've already died, usually at least three times.  Then I am suddenly able to control my moves with utmost precision and ninja-like skills.

[Vile Lasagna]

Regarding Resurrection Butterfly the only "trick" I've found is trying to position myself vertically so that I'm near the "breaking point" of the red waves. This makes it easier to dodge them without them crossing and getting messy and when the wave's ending I can always escape upwards to prepare for the next laser wave.

Also on rage:

ORIIIIINNN!!!!!!

I HATE her and all of stage 5 on SA, actually. Argh, THE RAGE! Even today I was making such a nice Alice run and then, boomf, stuck on Stage 5 FOREVER. The very stage is long and bloody bullshit, with EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT DAMNED CAT APPEARS being a nightmare... I've only made it past her once, actually, pushing Aya's bomb to the limit of effectiveness (and it makes MIRACLES, children!). Too bad by then I was tired and all and never got further than Utsuho's Evil Stars, meaning I can't even jump to it in practice (also, Stage 6 is another BS with that never-ending wave of streamers before Orin....). Top it all up with Utsuho's awesome music and SHINY SHINY spells making me completely obsessed and you have one VERY frustrated player....

[LHCling]

What the hell. MS Normal, Shinki... she shoots weird fat yellow lines at you, and they are IMPOSSIBLE to dodge. I can dodge one, then another, but then there's one going horizontal so I move up, but suddenly there's one in my face and if I'm REALLY lucky I can move out of its way only to get hit by another one from the side. Geez.
There's gotta be a way to manage them so they're not so bullshitty...

The infamous snake bullets? Best you can do is move around unfocused (unless somebody's come up with a better method). That's a problem itself, because you don't have much room to work with in the first place.

MoF Lunatic Stage 6. That Final Fairy is giving me crap:

"I throw snowballs into the gaps, making walls."

[nintendonut888]

Cheeto lasers (as they have been popularly named) are very overrated. In both my MS lunatic 1ccs I've cleared them with only one bomb. The trick is that you need to misdirect the bullets as much as you possibly can. If you do this, there will always be a workable gap. Also you need to get used to the timing of when it's safe to move or else you will move into a snake bullet. If they really give you that much trouble, set aside a run you know to be doomed and play around with the attack. It will help wonders.

[Darkblizer]

I almost 1cc'd PCB today, but died on Yuyu's LAST ATTACK. No comment.

[theshirn]

MoF Lunatic Stage 6. That Final Fairy is giving me crap:

"I throw snowballs into the gaps, making walls."

Ummm...that Death Fairy tends to be...pretty easy, on the whole.  Bomb if you have to, it drops over 2 full power.

[Azinth]

Wha...I...I...

Resurrection Butterfly...  I died at 00 seconds...

[SP]

Wha...I...I...

Resurrection Butterfly...  I died at 00 seconds...

oouuuch.

Also, simultaneously RAGE and accomplishment - Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana (History - 1/999)

Still haven't gotten the timer under 30s.

[LHCling]

Ummm...that Death Fairy tends to be...pretty easy, on the whole.  Bomb if you have to, it drops over 2 full power.

When going for (attempted) perfect runs, it really isn't that nice. Using a bomb to remove the traces of the previous patterns, and positioning yourself makes it trivial. Also, score-whoring reasons. Sometimes, its nice though.

i.e. I'm aiming to get as close as I can to a perfect run.

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Damn termites. They're really pissing me off. Distracting when I'm playing. (back on-campus)

Also, I misread VoWG waves and got my face full of bullets. Either, as full, uncrossable waves, or as cross-able waves with uncrossable waves very shortly behind them.

Also, simultaneously RAGE and accomplishment - Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana (History - 1/999)

Still haven't gotten the timer under 30s.

>_>

[Ionasal kkll Solciel]

Regarding Resurrection Butterfly the only "trick" I've found is trying to position myself vertically so that I'm near the "breaking point" of the red waves. This makes it easier to dodge them without them crossing and getting messy and when the wave's ending I can always escape upwards to prepare for the next laser wave.

I'd rather stick to the bottom of the screen instead.  It's a bit easier to see where the waves are going, and it's also looser down there as compared to the needlenose dodges you need to do at the breaking point.  Granted, it's a bit more chaotic, and towards the end, you'll have to work against both blue and red at the same time, but it's the only place that I can stand a chance at capping it.

My RAEG moment for the day (paraphrased from the osu! boards): oh shit I cap Fantasy Heaven all over again oh god I have to cap Apollo 13 Hard all over again whyy I have to cap seven cards in Extra again whyyyyy

[theshirn]

Cleared IN Extra with Yukari Solo (stage is annoying, but Mokou's almost exactly the same, except that Fujiyama Volcano ends quicker, which is nice), and thereby unlocked Alice's Last Word.

WTF.

Admittedly, I only tried it three times, but HOLY CRAP FAST BUTTERFLIES.  Stupid Alice.  Nobody likes you anyway.

Also, why do I suck SO BADLY at Imperishable Shooting?  (On a side note, there's only one way to say the name of the card: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD9lM-jOrJg&fmt=18 at 4:00.  Oh, Mokou...<3)

[LHCling]

Kanako's opening. Of the (currently) 30 attempts, I've had to bomb either once, or die and then bomb.

And Source of Rains pulls walls on me.

EDIT: Close to a perfect boss run. Stage I score-whored.

[Vile Lasagna]

So, since SA Normal mode is by far harder than PCB Hard, I eventually quit trying to bring Utsuho Down with Alice and started a game with Nitori on Easy. I was half-asleep and had some REALLY stupid deaths (including Orin once more justifying her title of "Hell's Traffic Accident") and STILL I just 1CC'ed it just like that, first try...

Yeah, Zun definitely forgot to put Normal mode on SA and just skipped straight from Easy to "harder"....

[Yukkuri]

So, since SA Normal mode is by far harder than PCB Hard, I eventually quit trying to bring Utsuho Down with Alice and started a game with Nitori on Easy. I was half-asleep and had some REALLY stupid deaths (including Orin once more justifying her title of "Hell's Traffic Accident") and STILL I just 1CC'ed it just like that, first try...

Yeah, Zun definitely forgot to put Normal mode on SA and just skipped straight from Easy to "harder"....

Did Orin Tackle you again?

[Vile Lasagna]

She DID! This time on her spell with the bullets that close on you with the explosions thing Spleen Eater. I was minding my business, trying not to get killed by the closing evil spirits when Orin decides to step in u.u...


Edit:

Here's the visual evidence of my failure!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K5CNupKcYo&fmt=22

[Arcengal]

She DID! This time on her spell with the bullets that close on you with the explosions thing (Can't remember the name of that one right now u.u). I was minding my business, trying not to get killed by the closing evil spirits when Orin decides to step in u.u...

She does that to me a lot. It's gotten to the point where I now see it coming and can bomb my way out of it. The card is called "Vengeful Cannibal Spirit", at least on Hard.

My Touhou rage is less of rage and just kind of "darn it". I'm trying to 1cc EoSD on Hard. My most recent attempt got to Scarlet Gensokyo, and about halfway through, I ran into a bullet that wasn't even a threat. My head now hurts from headbutting my keyboard.

[Generalguy]

I tried HRtP.

[Ionasal kkll Solciel]

I tried HRtP.

Ouch.

Today's RAEG moment: More FH failures.  I can get through twenty seconds of doom no problem, but it's always those last ten seconds that annoy me to no end - especially since I can't keep track of which orbs spawn amulets, which means I eat ofuda three times out of ten as they're spawning.

And why is it I had more trouble with Swallow's Cowrie Shell than with Dragon's Necklace when I was trying to unlock FH in the first place this time around?  Dragon's Necklace was just shy of Game of Life in terms of amount of tries needed to cap it my first time around, yet this time, both were captured almost easily.

[LHCling]

I tried HRtP.

Ohh... it's much worse when you're this close.

You can even see how many times I've tried (1cc'ing that is).

[Arcengal]

Today's RAEG moment: More FH failures.  I can get through twenty seconds of doom no problem, but it's always those last ten seconds that annoy me to no end - especially since I can't keep track of which orbs spawn amulets, which means I eat ofuda three times out of ten as they're spawning.

Don't keep track of the orbs that spawn bullets, keep track of where the gaps in the spell are. You can autopilot up to the 6 second mark this way, then it just gets fast enough that reflexes become your only way out.

My personal rage for the day:

Chen's 3rd card in PCB L. WTF!?

[SP]

Argh, once every 100 runs or so I get a good one on Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana.  I'd have probably given it up, but I can't help but feeling I'm slowly, slowly inching closer.  At this rate though I doubt I'll beat that Japanese guy's attempts, though...    I beat his capture numbers most everywhere else.

[theshirn]

My personal rage for the day:

Chen's 3rd card in PCB L. WTF!?

Heh heh heh...amen!

[Yukkuri]

Chen tackled me. T_T

[Generalguy]

Ohh... it's much worse when you're this close.

You can even see how many times I've tried (1cc'ing that is).

Lol you're so much better than me. I lost on Mugenkan (or whatever those eyes are called). Used 10 continues to get passed them, bombed most of the stage, continued another dozen times on the 3rd boss, then reached Sariel, got her after a few tries, then noticed she had yet another phase. I was too pissed off to even try it and ragequitted.

[Kanako Yasaka]

Her second phase is really easy.

[LHCling]

Lol you're so much better than me. I lost on Mugenkan (or whatever those eyes are called). Used 10 continues to get passed them, bombed most of the stage, continued another dozen times on the 3rd boss, then reached Sariel, got her after a few tries, then noticed she had yet another phase. I was too pissed off to even try it and ragequitted.

First time through, I used well over 15 continues to get past those EYES. Lots of memorization / streaming. Those darts still give me crap though. I need to know exactly how they work, otherwise its an auto-bomb. I've tried every relative position possible, none work consistently.

Elis (stage 15), the supposed devil, but better described as a vampire. Looks like an older version of Kurumi. Lots of prediction work. I learnt how to do MS Extra from her, so she gets respect from me. But a certain phase of Bat Form (randomly chosen) is really, really, BS; it lasts too long, there are too many bullets to deflect, and I get stuck in the corner.

Sariel... ... ...Overall easy. Barring the initial phase, and the amount of clipping possible.

Going to give it a few more tries.

[nintendonut888]

Sariel...easy? Are you serious? She was the bane of all hard 1ccs.

[LHCling]

Sariel...easy? Are you serious? She was the bane of all hard 1ccs.

Easier on Easy Mode. Still rage-inducing though.

[Generalguy]

My sister wanted me to help her with IN Easy, so I asked her what spellcards she had trouble with. One of them was Marisa's card "with the small stars and the lasers" (aka Earth Light Ray), so I start it up in spell practice.

I tell her it's easier to concentrate on the stars first, then when you know they won't hit you watch the lasers in case they appear on you. While doing it though, I realise the stars rarely get near you, and the lasers are often on the sides. I try it again, and tell my sister to just dodge when something is aimed at you. I then capture it without moving. I thought I was lucky, did it again, and the same thing happened.

So yeah, my sister was pissed while I was laughing my ass off