Miscellaneous Questions Thread (LOOK HERE OR DIE)

[Forte Blackadder]

Angels are messenger of God, or so the Bible said. However, in some countries angels are just the spirits of people who made good deed and went to Heaven. In some culture, angel is the whole another race that lives on Heaven, you can say they are the same as the Celestia (Tenshi's name means Angel, too)

I assume the Angel of Death is more of a title than a job.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

It's HRtP, ZUN barely figured anything out.

[game2011]

Is Marisa Tasofro's favorite character or what?  Their non-canonical Touhou games (Super Marisa Land, Mega Mari, and New Super Marisa Land) all have Marisa as the main character.

[VIVItheFujoshi]

Sariel's an Angel of Death, but what does an Angel of Death do, exactly?

Is an exterminator or an intermediary who help you to die. Remember the Ten Plagues of Egypt? the last one was the death of all firstborns in Egipt, but passing over houses which have the sign of lambs' blood on the doorpost. That was maybe the work of an angel sended for God. Sariel no is the only angel "of death" exist Malachi and Azrael...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sariel
Sariel is very contradictory: is an archangel in charge with the "souls who has commit sin", but after appears like a fallen angel (a Grigori, an angel who fall in lust with daughters of men) but his-her name appear in the shields of angels. (yes, that is why he-she have a shield in the game) even be a warrior (angels ARE warriors of God in the middle ages christian tradition) no like conflicts; is related with the moon (he-she teach the courses of the moon to humanity when was fallen, with agriculture things,magic etc...and higiene, too XD) and even is changed to Azrael, directly, or a "ripper" popular image. Or with a trumpet! (oh Sariel is very versatile)
The legend say who the fallen angels teach us the magic and sciense knowledge. That is why his-her song is Civilization of Magic.

(my fan despiction of Touhou vercion of Sariel: very tall and androgine beautiful (two meters when go with humans,gigantic in combat (in comparision with japanese, that is mush) but slow in earth; hermaprodite and shoot to "all sides"(caused for his-her lust sin, have a demon-like body but angelic look) perverted (for fall in sin, now no have free will, and needed eat souls. After the Hakurei Barrier formation, he was able to change his-her menu to something more innofencive: lust of creatures with a soul..."eat" in other form...call him-her now the "Angel of the "Little" Death XD) pacifist, with infinite knowledge about antique magic but nothing about modern things, love animals,youkai and specially humans (except when is awaken, Reimu know about that XD) smell always good, like take baths (specially with good company XD) and his-her faborite thing is the moon... and his-her Kourin plushie. Sings like and angel and is a decent trompetist.)

[shinr]

Speaking of HRtP, Konngara's red and black threads/hair/whatever seem to link up at her left chest, like a false satori's third eye, similar to how the horn is more of spike that was impaled through her head than the real horn. And considering that the underground city is located at former hell...

Then again, I'm probably over imagining things.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

Then again, I'm probably over imagining things.

I'm inclined to agree.

[Myschi]

This could be totally obvious, but it's been bugging me for a few days.

Remilia's power is the manipulation of fate, right?

Then... how could she have lost to Reimu/Marisa in EoSD? (Or, well, any storyline match in the fighting games) Was it just her being a good sport about it and NOT using fate manipulation or is there something else?

[Hello Purvis]

She doesn't really have conscious control over it.

[Forte Blackadder]

Fate is a vague definition. Remilia's ability itself is vague too, what can she do to fate exactly? Can she just change fate at an exact point, like, "She will get hit after 3,2366845 seconds." or she has to make up everything to go to that fate? Like "in the next 0,812387 she will step right for 82 degrees, 5.01829 centimetres,..."
Because fate is not an exact thing, people can change their fate, or so they think. Knowing the fate will surely change it, though. Therefore, Remilia cannot change the fate as the latter example to get a perfect result, one fate involves other's fate, a slightest change in your fate may greatly affect another fate that collided with it.

Ex: I randomly discovered Touhou and got too obsessed. My otaku level went straight up which wouldn't happen if I never cared about what one of my friends said about Touhou. My friends wouldn't have to hear my rant about Touhou everyday. My HDD wouldn't have 2TB of Touhou so I may can store something else more useful. My parents wouldn't love The Gensokyo the Gods Loved and have History of The Moon, Broken Moon as their ringtones. MY BROTHER WOULDN'T BREAK UP WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE OF SAIGYOUJI YUYUKO.

Remilia may have absolute control over fate, but that consumes too much effort, time and her own magic power, so she wouldn't do that randomly just for victory of some stupid danmaku game.

[Sabino]

My parents wouldn't love The Gensokyo the Gods Loved and have History of The Moon, Broken Moon as their ringtones. MY BROTHER WOULDN'T BREAK UP WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE OF SAIGYOUJI YUYUKO.

...My level of respect for you has gone up by a few thousand magnitudes... :3

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

I like to think of it as being kinda like a Death Note: she can go into some level of detail, but she can't specify anything that would be too out-of-character ("Flandre behaves like a proper lady"), too improbable/difficult to arrange ("Marisa's broom spontaneously explodes"), or too soon ("Reimu dies of thirst five minutes from now" while Reimu's drinking tea).

"Must know their name and face" and "cannot affect anything less than six minutes and forty seconds in the future" optional.

[Hatateru]

Most Touhou games have 7 stages with the exception of Perfect Cherry Blossom which has 8 stages instead, with Yukari being the Phantasm stage boss. But Phantasmagoria of Flower View has 9 stages, with Shikieiki supposedly being the Final stage boss. So is that why Yukari fears her?

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

No. The stage-number in the game has nothing to do with "how powerful they are," especially in a game like PoFV where the characters are theoretically supposed to be balanced.

Which is exactly like power-level discussions are forbidden.

[Tiamat]

Just a little dictionary nazi-ism here (it's like being a grammer nazi except more concerned about the specific meanings of words!):

Yukari doesn't necessarily fear Shikieki.  She leaves because "they're no match for her." according to Yukari (actual official quote).  That doesn't necessarily mean fear.  It could simply be a statement of fact (on topic:  Either way, that statement probably doesn't have anything to do with the number of stages in PoFV.  ...probably).

If Yukari really does emotionally fear Shikieki, it's likely for the same reason most youkai do.  Getting lectured by Shikieki is incredibly annoying, especially for youkai (who generally are more carefree and reckless than humans are, even if Shikieiki is considerate enough to judge them by a youkai moral code instead of a human one)

[Forte Blackadder]

Fear has least to do with powerlevel, though. Given Zeus'power, I will still fear my dad. Yukari is a youkai, no matter how strong she is, while Shikieiki is the Judge of Hell. If you watched Bao Zheng, you'd understand what I mean. Shikieiki has an aura that shuts most youkai up, and an intelligent one like Yukari or Eirin would know best not to be impolite towards her.

Yuuka is an airhead and Cirno is too stupid.

[Sabino]

I also heard that it's partly because even their abilities aren't a good match in the first place; like oil and water.
While Yukari can make the boundaries vague and fiddle with them, Shikieiki can set them straight... Thus Yukari's power of borders can't be used against Shikieiki.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

So in other words, this? (bluh bluh, danbooru)

[Drake]

Yuuka is an airhead and Cirno is too stupid.

Whimsical and childish.

[game2011]

Is Marisa Tasofro's favorite character or what?  Their non-canonical Touhou games (Super Marisa Land, Mega Mari, and New Super Marisa Land) all have Marisa as the main character.

Can anyone please answer this?

Thanks in advance!

[Drake]

Kind of a weird way to ask that considering Tasofro is a group and not a person.

Marisa is easy to place into any given situation and have it still work. Reimu just the same. Marisa just seems to appeal to the fanbase more, and more than probably the guys form Tasofro do like Marisa. But it isn't like anyone can give any supreme evidence of such; it isn't like they just revealed one day that HEY GUYS WE LIKE MARISAWWWW

[Tengukami]

I'd add that Tasofro isn't alone in this. Many Touhou doujin games employ Marisa is at least one of the playable characters, even sometimes the only playable character. I don't think there's any collusion involved. She, along with Reimu, pretty much are the Touhou trademarks.

[game2011]

Still, it's weird that Reimu sometimes either gets reduced to being a minor character or gets left out entirely when she is the actual main character...

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

Yeah, well, see above. :V

[チソウ タイゼン]

Hey, when Marisa is Master Sparking you in IN St. 4, how much can you touch it before exploding?

[Drake]

Just past the solid white. Why did you not try this yourself.

[チソウ タイゼン]

Just past the solid white. Why did you not try this yourself.

Pffft, I wasn't going to go anywhere near it.
I still suck at Touhou.





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Waaaaaait
Maaan! I forgot about practice mode

i feel so stupid right now

[KrackoCloud]

Qs on Koishi:
-Did she have the ability to manipulate the subconscious before she closed off her eye? Or was that an effect of that?
-Are all of Koishi's actions from her subconscious? Like she's basically sleep-everything'ing, or reality is dreamlike to her.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

1. I'm reasonably certain that it was a side-effect of closing her Third Eye (given that people feared her more afterwards).
2. Not sure; it's certainly a reasonably-popular fan-theory, as far as I can tell.

[KrackoCloud]

Okay, I tried to look a little closer at the Wiki, and there's some sort of inconsistency here. Now I can't figure a thing out.  :ohdear:

Here's what the character profile translation says:

However, knowing that people don't like having their minds read, Koishi closed the third eye that gave her the ability to manipulate the subconscious.

Koishi used to be able to read minds, and could already manipulate the subconscious.

As a result, she lost her ability to read others' hearts, but in return she gained the ability to take action unconsciously.

She gained the ability to act unconsciously after closing off her heart.
But if it was her heart that could manipulate the subconscious, and she sealed it off, doesn't that mean she can't do that any more? She should only have the ability to act unconsciously now.

It seems the generally accepted idea is as written in the character summary for her page:

She wanted to avoid the hate and dislike which Satori experienced due to her mindreading abilities, so she sealed away her own Third Eye. This backfired, since she gained the ability to read and manipulate people's subconscious, an even greater ability.

But this still conflicts with the fact that the translation says her Third Eye was the source of her subconscious manipulation.

(given that people feared her more afterwards).

Could I get a source of that info? The translation says:

The denizens of the underground no longer hated her, but at the same time, they never feared her and animals no longer loved her.

I am utterly confused right now. ;_;

[Forte Blackadder]

Well, in other words, Koishi became a non-existence, she is there, but no one knows, no one cares. Even if she burns them with fire, they'd still think that the fire started from nowhere.

I think she's like the wind, and everyone loves the wind.