Author Topic: Spellcard Help Topic (Read 145689 times)

Rook · « **Reply #960 on:** November 21, 2009, 02:15:42 AM »

How is Parsee's midboss noncard (Hard) even possible? I think I'm doing it wrong, although what I'm doing amounts to "look at sizes of holes in constantly moving walls, say 'hell no!', bomb."

LHCling · « **Reply #961 on:** November 21, 2009, 02:37:47 AM »

Quote from: nrook on November 21, 2009, 02:15:42 AM

Parsee's midboss noncard (Hard)

Legitimately, something like this.

Rook · « **Reply #962 on:** November 21, 2009, 02:59:08 AM »

Quote from: Baity on November 21, 2009, 02:37:47 AM

Legitimately, something like this.

Oh! So the idea is to take advantage of the fact that the walls only get two "jerks". Thank you; you're too generous!

Lybydose · « **Reply #963 on:** November 21, 2009, 07:28:19 AM »

The really easy way if you don't already know about this trick.

LHCling · « **Reply #964 on:** November 21, 2009, 07:35:03 AM »

Quote from: Lybydose on November 21, 2009, 07:28:19 AM

really easy way

Bonus points if you can time it out using that method.

Lybydose · « **Reply #965 on:** November 22, 2009, 01:51:12 AM »

Ok I give up.

How do you do Yamame's opener (on Lunatic)? If I sit at the bottom, there's always some random aimed bullet that comes horizontally that I can't possibly avoid. If I try to move up, I just get killed by everything. I tried going to one side of the screen and up, then streaming down and it kind of worked, but that doesn't solve the problem of needing to actually damage the boss so I can get a life fragment.

LHCling · « **Reply #966 on:** November 22, 2009, 01:55:16 AM »

He re.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #967 on:** November 22, 2009, 02:12:58 AM »

Every single card Patchy uses on Hard for MarisaA other than Emerald Megalith. I can actually capture that one most of the time, but the others usually force me to bomb.

I could also switch to MarisaB as well, but most of my attempts have been MarisaA. And Reimu is too slow for my liking, so I'm trying not to use her unless necessary.

LHCling · « **Reply #968 on:** November 22, 2009, 02:40:09 AM »

Read and dodge. All of them. No gimmicks, no "real" patterns, no safespots, just raw dodging.

:suwakodwi:

Not very helpful, but that's all there is to each Spell Card.

Rook · « **Reply #969 on:** November 22, 2009, 08:21:24 AM »

Waaaait a second. Is Yamame's last card on Hard static?

LHCling · « **Reply #970 on:** November 22, 2009, 08:39:49 AM »

Yes, yes it is. In fact, it's static across all difficulties.

Zengeku · « **Reply #971 on:** November 22, 2009, 08:46:50 AM »

Is it static? I never knew... guess that makes it a pretty pathetic card.

Zetzumarshen · « **Reply #972 on:** November 22, 2009, 11:55:15 AM »

Quote from: nrook on November 22, 2009, 08:21:24 AM

Waaaait a second. Is Yamame's last card on Hard static?

It doesn't look static for me.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #973 on:** November 22, 2009, 03:54:02 PM »

Orin's last nonspell. There has to be some pattern to this, but I don't see it. Also Satori's version of Princess Undine, both on Normal.

And I don't think it's static either, I think I noticed some differences.

Laughing Bird · « **Reply #974 on:** November 22, 2009, 04:40:09 PM »

Orin's last non spell definitely has a pattern. Here's a rough example of how to get through. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6101
Don't mind the death at the end of the pattern (and the rest of the stage, for that matter). I recorded this at 2AM, hit a lapse in concentration and died just as the nonspell was ending

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6024 princess undine.

LHCling · « **Reply #975 on:** November 22, 2009, 07:34:10 PM »

Quote from: Zetzumarshen on November 22, 2009, 11:55:15 AM

It doesn't look static for me.

It looked pretty static to me at a glance.

Upon taking two video stills at the same point; you're right.

However, I would comment that some of those bullets overlapped pretty well. Then there are the majority of the other bullets which are in close proximity to each other. And then the very few (the image is quite confusing in showing this) bullets which are pretty far off.

There could be an aimed factor to it as well; that needs some checking. Seeing as I hear the sounds for aimed bullets anyway.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #976 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:28:04 PM »

The tiny lasers on Scarlet Weather Rapture. How the hell do you dodge that.
That spellcard is the most unfair piece of shit I've ever seen.
I can't do anything without being juggled into oblivion 3 seconds after getting up.
I don't want to see it on Lunatic.

Also Komachi's scythe spellcard. I'm probably missing some trick there, as I can't get out of the purple cloud before getting hit.

And finally, how does Sliding Ascension Kick work? It only seems to slide for me :V

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #977 on:** November 24, 2009, 04:23:08 AM »

Ah. I need serious help with SA Extra. I'm using Marisa C for reasons I won't digress, but I've got the most trouble with Sanae's third spellcard, and pretty much the entire stage after that...

Halp?

Thaws · « **Reply #978 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:53:27 AM »

Quote from: Fox Fanatic on November 24, 2009, 04:23:08 AM

Ah. I need serious help with SA Extra. I'm using Marisa C for reasons I won't digress, but I've got the most trouble with Sanae's third spellcard, and pretty much the entire stage after that...

Halp?

For Sanae : The stream of bullets are aimed, so you should be paying no attention to them. (You need to try to "filter" them out of your vision.) Focus on the bullets from the left/top/right screen only. (and stay in the middle of the screen if you aren't doing so already, you don't have to dodge the bullets at the bottom.).

The easy way to do the part right after Sanae would be circling around the screen. (Have you watched yoslime's tutorial on youtube before?)

For the Green bubbles spam, since they're loosely aimed, you need to make larger movements to create larger gaps. It's probably the most difficult stage part.

Lybydose · « **Reply #979 on:** November 24, 2009, 10:06:47 AM »

Bomb spamming the 2nd half of the stage is highly recommended. The green bubble faeries and the QED faeries at the end all drop loads of power, so just bomb them all (and intentionally set your bombs off with MarisaC) then run up and auto collect. You'll get all your power back and then some.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #980 on:** November 24, 2009, 04:02:50 PM »

How does Koishi handle MarisaC's bombs anyway?

I never really tried to 1cc with her as she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, just like ReimuC.

Lybydose · « **Reply #981 on:** November 24, 2009, 04:07:08 PM »

Quote from: Enigma on November 24, 2009, 04:02:50 PM

How does Koishi handle MarisaC's bombs anyway?

I never really tried to 1cc with her as she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, just like ReimuC.

She doesn't. She only goes damage immune long enough to absorb the bomb explosion damage if you actually get hit.

Verloren · « **Reply #982 on:** November 24, 2009, 04:33:28 PM »

The spellcards on UFO Stage 5 Easy. T_T Nothing about that stage is even the slightest bit easy for me...

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #983 on:** November 24, 2009, 04:53:02 PM »

Oh wow. I just tried to do the stage on Easy and completely messed up almost everything. I can usually do it mostly well.

It's mostly memorization. And go pacifist for the parts with the orbs before Nazrin and Shou while moving in a circle around the screen. I used a counterclockwise circle. The spellcards are all doable on Easy. The only spells that should give you trouble from the stage on Easy are the ones where you're in a small area and then danmaku goes at you randomly. I suck at those too. The last one is fine since it's a huge area. Vajra should be an autobomb, even on Easy even though I managed to finally capture it on that practice run.

Here's a demo run. I had 2 deaths that really shouldn't have happened though. Also, unless you're going for score, do not attack during the orb spam. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6129

On the subject of Vajra, I need help. I know to bomb it during a 1cc attempt, but how do you capture it. Normal difficulty, and I'm guessing advice for the 2 harder ones would be nice, though I won't be ready for a long time on those.

Verloren · « **Reply #984 on:** November 24, 2009, 06:11:37 PM »

T_T I can't get the replay to work for some reason...

Esoterica · « **Reply #985 on:** November 25, 2009, 11:49:55 PM »

Quote from: Bananamatic on November 23, 2009, 11:28:04 PM

The tiny lasers on Scarlet Weather Rapture. How the hell do you dodge that.
That spellcard is the most unfair piece of shit I've ever seen.
I can't do anything without being juggled into oblivion 3 seconds after getting up.
I don't want to see it on Lunatic.

Well, you're going to see it on Lunatic, and you're going to see how pathetic it is no matter what with the right strategy.

Quote from: Bananamatic on November 23, 2009, 11:28:04 PM

And finally, how does Sliding Ascension Kick work? It only seems to slide for me :V

Hold down the button you did the kick with.

At max level, after the Ascension Kick it also adds the upward kick she does at the end of Wind God Kick, which air launches extremely high.

Edit: I suppose it helps to post a URL in the URL tag. :V

Zengeku · « **Reply #986 on:** November 26, 2009, 09:34:59 AM »

Somebody please!!! Is there any advice for Radiant Treasure Gun Lunatic? I've tried this thing 30 times and i've still not got it. Its a total luckfest. I'm sick of it but i want to capture it! That and Vajra. Eww... ZUN. What were you thinking?

Where are you now Orin?

LHCling · « **Reply #987 on:** November 26, 2009, 09:54:12 AM »

Lots of prediction games. There is minimal strategy to it; the bullets are "aimed" with an extremely complex formula (read: semi-random). For best survival results use the center, center-left, center, center-right, center, etc. . And the bottom of the screen, or somewhere around there (that is, don't shotgun, period). Avoid staying underneath Syou when she's off to a side, as this walls off one of your "escape routes". Once you play around with it enough, you'll end up capping it once every ~~three~~ seven tries or so :V

Zengeku · « **Reply #988 on:** November 26, 2009, 10:04:14 AM »

Quote from: Baity on November 26, 2009, 09:54:12 AM

Lots of prediction games. There is minimal strategy to it; the bullets are "aimed" with an extremely complex formula (read: semi-random). For best survival results use the center, center-left, center, center-right, center, etc. . And the bottom of the screen, or somewhere around there (that is, don't shotgun, period). Avoid staying underneath Syou when she's off to a side, as this walls off one of your "escape routes". Once you play around with it enough, you'll end up capping it once every ~~three~~ seven tries or so :V

Well up to this point i've been trying to stay underneath Shou to deal as much damage as possible but that almost always results in my death. I guess i'll try this method.

Kasu · « **Reply #989 on:** November 28, 2009, 01:16:42 AM »

Hah...

Does anyone have any tips for Meiling's Colorful Rain and Extreme Color Typhoon spell cards in EoSD?

I'm playing on Normal by the way.

(Pretty new to the games so... yeah).