Author Topic: Spellcard Help Topic (Read 145726 times)

Bananamatic · « **Reply #630 on:** October 07, 2009, 02:49:48 PM »

I've done some testing....and it's easier on Lunatic than on Normal.
Dunno how, but a Normal clear took 2 lives while Lunatic timeout took 1 bomb.

Some weird spellcard records:
Normal:
Nuclear Fusion: 0/29
Mega Flare: 0/29

Hard:
Giga Flare: 1/18
Hell's Tokamak: 7/17
Subterranean Sun: 8/15

Lunatic:
Hell's Tokamak: 1/4

No idea what is going on there, but the first spellcard apparently gets easier or doesn't change that much on Hard and Lunatic, and Mega/Giga/Peta Flare is just pure luck regardless of the difficulty. Sometimes Lunatic feels like Normal while Normal keeps hitting me all the time.

Either way, they are the harder ones.

DgBarca · « **Reply #631 on:** October 07, 2009, 05:15:55 PM »

Suwa War and Suwako last spell...
Just...
Suwa War force you to bomb on the last second or what ?
and the last card, I hate to dodge that crossing bullets like in Hourai Elixir, help !

Sapz · « **Reply #632 on:** October 07, 2009, 07:48:25 PM »

Quote from: DgBarca on October 07, 2009, 05:15:55 PM

Suwa War and Suwako last spell...
Just...
Suwa War force you to bomb on the last second or what ?
and the last card, I hate to dodge that crossing bullets like in Hourai Elixir, help !

Suwa War starts off easy enough, alternate between dodging on the white suns and streaming the darker ones, but I'm sure you knew that already. When it gets really hectic during the last ten seconds, head to the top middle and stream downwards. And pray, obviously; it's partially luck based BS, but the downward streaming at least means you don't have to worry about it quite as much.

Mishaguji-sama, though? I always thought that was actually one of her easiest cards. Maybe try doing it essentially no-vertical? It might help you to get a feel for the dodging you need to be doing. At any rate, I actually find it easier no-vert, so. :V

DgBarca · « **Reply #633 on:** October 07, 2009, 08:11:37 PM »

Her easiest card is "Frog Is Eaten by Snake due to the Croak"
Well, is you have bad luck you can have no space to go to the middle but it happened to me just once

Zengeku · « **Reply #634 on:** October 08, 2009, 08:27:02 PM »

Quote from: DgBarca on October 07, 2009, 08:11:37 PM

Her easiest card is "Frog Is Eaten by Snake due to the Croak"
Well, is you have bad luck you can have no space to go to the middle but it happened to me just once

I would say her easiest spellcard have to be the 1st and 2nd. They are pathetically easy. Barely require any movement. Well, same for Eaten by Snake thingy i guess. A lot of her attacks are actually pretty easy. You'll probably be best off bombing Suwa War though.

As for the final spellcard i wouldn't know cause i've never failed it. Not even with only 3.xx power and ReimuA.

DgBarca · « **Reply #635 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:24:57 PM »

Genetics of the Subconscious
(I hope it's not a taboo)

Bananamatic · « **Reply #636 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:55:29 PM »

Vengeful Cannibal Spirit on Lunatic.....is the trick to it always staying in the middle before the next wave?

LHCling · « **Reply #637 on:** October 09, 2009, 09:06:28 PM »

Quote from: Bananamatic on October 09, 2009, 08:55:29 PM

Vengeful Cannibal Spirit on Lunatic.....is the trick to it always staying in the middle before the next wave?

Not really. Though, you should be aiming to be as close to the center of the explosion (if any) as possible. Also, you only need to move about one-quarter of a full circle (of the explosion / collapsing bullets) before you prepare to move back up through the bullets again.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #638 on:** October 09, 2009, 09:17:54 PM »

Captured it now.
Is there a pattern for the ghost wheels? I swear that the gap always goes a little to the left....

I guess that Possessed Fairy can't be just directed into Orin and then dodging the pellets from there like on Hard.....or maybe I need to direct it better since always one fairy slips through and shooting even one point blank on Lunatic is pretty dangerous :V

Esoterica · « **Reply #639 on:** October 10, 2009, 05:33:52 AM »

Not really sure if this is where I should be asking this since it's not technically a spellcard, but...

Are Komachi's EX attacks in PoFV aimed? I noticed that streaming allowed me to last 2-3 times as long against her (lunatic match play) when playing as Yuka.

Zengeku · « **Reply #640 on:** October 10, 2009, 05:54:34 PM »

Okay. What is the magical trick for Green UFO's and Undefined Darkness? Sodium said that they were easy once you have learnt it but for some reason i can't seem to find any way to consistently avoid getting walled.

Kanako Yasaka · « **Reply #641 on:** October 10, 2009, 05:57:34 PM »

For Green UFO's the curvy lasers are static.

For Undefined Darkness, go to a top corner and work your way down and then repeat.

Sodium · « **Reply #642 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:01:47 PM »

Because the curvy lasers in Green UFOs have a static height where they curve, you can dodge it completely horizontally.

What Kanako said for Undefined. Nue goes faster as the card goes on, btw. It's Princess Tenko except a bit harder.

Or you could just use SanaeB to utterly wreck UFO Extra.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #643 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:13:46 PM »

Green UFO is pretty easy. Just stay horizontally where the "UFO" is written on the right and ALWAYS go to the sides, as it is much easier to dodge the tiny laser spam there.

Zengeku · « **Reply #644 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:58:20 PM »

Green UFO: Well the only thing i'm afraid of are the bullets. Not the lasers. I should note that its pretty rare i get screwed over. Like this one for example.
http://www.replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=5311

Undefined Darkness: Is there any replays you know of, that demonstrates this?

Bananamatic · « **Reply #645 on:** October 10, 2009, 07:03:16 PM »

Quote from: Zengeku on October 10, 2009, 06:58:20 PM

Green UFO: Well the only thing i'm afraid of are the bullets. Not the lasers. I should note that its pretty rare i get screwed over. Like this one for example.
http://www.replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=5311

Undefined Darkness: Is there any replays you know of, that demonstrates this?

By tiny lasers, I mean the laser bullets that rain on you after.....it's much less dense on the sides. And they seem to come down a little later on the sides.

Undefined Darkness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zgUFssiSTU#t=7m35s
Basically, lure her to the corner first, then shoot her while luring her down slowly, then quickly move into another corner and work down from there again.
Not sure on how the bullets behave, but sometimes it's more dense and sometimes less.....

Keep in mind that she charges to your current position and the bullets go from where she was before she started charging to you.

Knowing you, you'll probably no death it on the next run.

Zengeku · « **Reply #646 on:** October 10, 2009, 07:28:01 PM »

Well i almost no-deathed the stage. If it wasn't because the survival card sucks (not asking for advice. I know how to deal with it. It just have a random tendency to hit me anyway.) and me getting unlucky on the final spellcard.

Two-miss is good enough for me though considering how and where those occured. I don't feel like doing anymore UFO EX tonight though. Oh and i'm taking back what i said about Nue being a horrible EX boss. I don't think you guys should think too much of what i say in that topic. I might be too blinded by frustration to think clearly. I'd wish i could be more patient...

Oh and i think i understand Undefined Darkness now. If i can just do this consistently, it might be easier than Princess Tenko (because Princess Tenko takes longer time)

Bananamatic · « **Reply #647 on:** October 10, 2009, 07:39:26 PM »

Quote from: Zengeku on October 10, 2009, 07:28:01 PM

If i can just do this consistently, it might be easier than Princess Tenko (because Princess Tenko takes longer time)

Do you use SakuyaA by any chance?
I find Tenko pretty easy with ReimuB and it's not too long either....

Any help on Grudge Bow except for praying?

DgBarca · « **Reply #648 on:** October 11, 2009, 11:41:38 AM »

Perfect Nue until Green UFO...
Then Rainbow UFO has come...HELP ME ON THAT FUCKING CARD

Bananamatic · « **Reply #649 on:** October 11, 2009, 12:12:56 PM »

Quote from: DgBarca on October 11, 2009, 11:41:38 AM

Perfect Nue until Green UFO...
Then Rainbow UFO has come...HELP ME ON THAT FUCKING CARD

Aim for one of the UFO streams and destroy them ASAP. Other than that, pray. They might land down a bit off so you might even end up getting ufotackled.

Zengeku · « **Reply #650 on:** October 11, 2009, 03:21:24 PM »

Does anybody know of a way to tackle Prismrivers final spell on hard mode? I get screwed over completely.

And does anybody know of a way to deal with the post-Lily spam? I'm trying for perfection on Stage 4 Hard and while most of the stuff is pretty easy, those two points get me pretty bad.

Lopsidation · « **Reply #651 on:** October 11, 2009, 03:55:06 PM »

Suwako's "6 bows, 105 claps, a dozen or so more bows"
My only capture of this involved micrododging between the lasers. As far as I can tell you're supposed to play high up the screen and jerk left to misdirect the claps, but apparently I can't jerk fast enough.

DgBarca · « **Reply #652 on:** October 11, 2009, 04:03:22 PM »

Quote from: DgBarca on October 09, 2009, 08:24:57 PM

Genetics of the Subconscious
(I hope it's not a taboo)

Kanako Yasaka · « **Reply #653 on:** October 11, 2009, 04:17:11 PM »

Quote from: Lopsidation on October 11, 2009, 03:55:06 PM

Suwako's "6 bows, 105 claps, a dozen or so more bows"
My only capture of this involved micrododging between the lasers. As far as I can tell you're supposed to play high up the screen and jerk left to misdirect the claps, but apparently I can't jerk fast enough.

Just follow the blue lasers. It's Suwako's easiest card IMO.

Drake · « **Reply #654 on:** October 11, 2009, 04:52:50 PM »

Or you can stay above Suwako during her opening dialogue and it messes up the spell completely.

CK Crash · « **Reply #655 on:** October 11, 2009, 05:27:31 PM »

You need to misdirect the blue bullets by going into the bottom left/right corners. The lasers act predictably enough after you've played the spell enough times. If you're doing it right, you don't need to micrododge anything.

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #656 on:** October 11, 2009, 09:41:01 PM »

Quote from: Drake on October 11, 2009, 04:52:50 PM

Or you can stay above Suwako during her opening dialogue and it messes up the spell completely.

I tried that once and somehow I ended up with the lasers firing to her side rather than above her, which leads me to believe I somehow managed to mess it up...

Drake · « **Reply #657 on:** October 11, 2009, 09:54:11 PM »

It aims at you based on where you are about half a second after the fight actually starts. You just went back down too fast.

ebarrett · « **Reply #658 on:** October 11, 2009, 10:10:50 PM »

Misdirecting Suwako's first card is stupid, it's a 100% capture card once you know what's happening. Do as Lopsidation and Onthenet said, profit, etc. Just don't doze off in the middle as I occasionally do. :V

You can still micrododge through the shitstorm if you mis-misdirect the bubbles, though, often with amusing results. OHSHITIFORGOT WHOA

arcs · « **Reply #659 on:** October 11, 2009, 10:29:44 PM »

AlexX - I went ahead and uploaded my replay to demonstrate. link

...Feel free to disregard the huge mess I make of some of the other cards. >_>

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