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Bananamatic

PoFV halp
« on: October 22, 2009, 10:01:41 PM »
So, I'm trying to 1cc PoFV lunatic.....best I've managed was last life half left for Shiki before I've died....but I still don't understand some mechanics.

1) Scoring. When I've reached her last halforb, I've had 34m score....and I see this cool dude having 78m there, which would give me 2 more lives.
What do you do to score that high so I can actually 1cc it?

2) Girls you get to fight. Are they fixed for each touhou or random? I DON'T want to fight Medicine again. EVER. It's like forcing StB camera charge. Which I DON'T WANT TO PLAY AGAIN.
EVER.
seriously.

3) Sakuya. Is she controlled by Shiki AI or something? I ALWAYS lose her first round in the worst way possible and she takes 1 hit at most before I die.

4) Is there a tier list? For now, I just take whatever girl doesn't have clear next to her name and attempt with her.
Apparently Medicine trips up the AI even more than me a few minutes ago(2 deaths, then a close win) and Aya kind of breaks it too.

5) Strategy....is there something more to it than "smash the shoot button, dodge crap, charge a lv2 when walled, repeat"?

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 10:07:14 PM »
Not sure about the rest, but I can at least answer this:
2) Girls you get to fight. Are they fixed for each touhou or random? I DON'T want to fight Medicine again. EVER. It's like forcing StB camera charge. Which I DON'T WANT TO PLAY AGAIN.
EVER.
seriously.
You always fight Cirno first, but from stages 2-5 there's a select number of girls you can potentially run into (so you might get Tewi one run and Reisen on another, for example). I believe stage 6 onward is fixed, though.

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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2009, 10:11:29 PM »
1. Use L2's to clear the screen, shoot fairies / activated spirits when they're clumped together with snowballs for MASSIVE CHAINING EFFECT. That's about it. There's no way I can see what you're doing wrong unless you put a replay up.

2. Cut: answered.

3. Varies by Stage.

4. Aya / Medicine, everybody else. Te(w)i gets a bonus for auto-bomb reasons. That's against AI. Against Humans is a different thing.

5. Be patient, shoot fairies / activated spirits at the right times (see above, this cannot be stressed enough), use L2 when walled / scoring opportunity rises, stall, repeat. Alternatively, counter-summon, stall, repeat. e.g. 100k counter, 300k counter, 500k counter, stall, repeat. Keep in mind that it is quite difficult to just stop at 500k.
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ebarrett

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 10:28:52 PM »
4. Aya / Medicine, everybody else. Te(w)i gets a bonus for auto-bomb reasons. That's against AI. Against Humans is a different thing.

Aya/Medicine are BROKEN tier, though, and winning with these on lunatic is easier than winning with anyone else on normal. Trying to brag about Aya/Medicine wins will get you laughed at, unfortunately. Tewi is not so hot due to her weird gauge and awful lvl1 attack (the two do go well together, but it's subpar at best).

I'd put Mystia and Marisa as the top-tier, non-broken chars. Marisa has the awesome boss-killing laser, which also clears the screen very well (and from top to bottom), and faster gauge recharge. Mystia has a wonderful scope, excellent speed (you'll want to be as fast as possible against Shiki's hotdog barrages - macrododging is how you beat her) and all of her special attacks, from EX to boss summon, have slow bullets (when these get reflected at you, they retain their speed - awful for match mode, excellent for story mode).

Cirno is my third favourite but as that cool guy's video shows things might get tricky against Shiki. Reimu is a favourite of some due to her ying-yangs having an above average chance to hit, but while you can get the occasional quick(er) win with her, the abysmal speed turns me off.

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 10:33:47 PM »
I guess while we're here I should ask... Is there a way to play as a character's alt costume rather than their normal one in story mode? Also, there anything special I can do to make Reisen more effective?

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Bananamatic

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 10:35:31 PM »
Is Reisen horrible or something? My last attempt was with her....I actually clipped even the spirits a few times =/

And did anyone here win round 1 vs Shiki?

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 10:45:53 PM »
Is Reisen horrible or something? My last attempt was with her....I actually clipped even the spirits a few times =/
I hear she's supposed to be though I never heard of clipping spirits before, but I can't let anything as silly as facts and statistics get in my way of using characters I like. As such, I just need to figure out what her best strengths are and maximize on those best I can.

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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 11:12:07 PM »
Also, there anything special I can do to make Reisen more effective?

Quote from: Kouryaku
性能

*table of statistics found in-game*

チャージショットは使い辛いが威力は優秀である。リリーは降りてくる時に当てられればショットを数発当てるだけで撃破可能。
基本的に着弾した地点で爆発するが、たまに通常ショットがあるところで爆発するという仕様がある。
発生条件が確定しているため意図的に狙うことも出来なくはないが、タイミングがシビアなので自在に使いこなすのは難しい。

EX、ボス、チャージ、どれも嫌らしい性能、弱くは無い。しかしC2で返される弾の量が多いので押し潰される事も多い。

自キャラ時戦略

全てのキャラにおいての基本をなぞる形になる。
C2で弾を消し、ボスを送る。50万ボーナスだけでなくボスの攻撃にもC2を重ねる。
白弾の連爆は吸霊が自機周辺の亜種なのでやりやすいと思う。
開花をしてもいいが、負ける事は覚悟した方が良いだろう。相手が開花に乗ってくれない限り負けは近付いてくる。

チャージショットは画面上部で爆発させると敵を大量に巻き込むのでゲージを大幅に回復できる。
また、ザコが突っ込んでくる地点であらかじめ爆発させておくとしばらくの間白弾を防ぐ盾としても使える。
ただし前述のバグがあるので、あまりこれに頼りすぎるのは危険。

相手時戦略

ボスの高速渦巻き弾は一回避けた場所に居れば同じ所を通るので当たらないが動くと当りやすいので注意。
ズレ全方位弾は単体では避けやすいがC2EX、白弾が重なってくると途端にダメージを食らう要因になる。速めのC2を心がけよう。
EXは霊と間違えやすい事で有名、慣れれば見分けはつくので慣れよう。動かなければ当たらない弾である。
C2は避けるのは容易いが、C3はまずC2を使わないと安全には抜けられない、注意しよう(C3単独なら重なった所をC1で抜けるのもあり)。
The single piece of information that I found by quickly skimming through this that might be of use to you is to use a Charge Shot to quickly take out Lily. I'm positive that there's a lot more information in there that might be of use to you, like what attacks are good or bad and all that.
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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 11:16:11 PM »
The single piece of information that I found by quickly skimming through this that might be of use to you is to use a Charge Shot to quickly take out Lily. I'm positive that there's a lot more information in there that might be of use to you, like what attacks are good or bad and all that.

Yeah thats the only nice thing I ever noticed about Reisen in PoFV.

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 11:22:09 PM »
The single piece of information that I found by quickly skimming through this that might be of use to you is to use a Charge Shot to quickly take out Lily. I'm positive that there's a lot more information in there that might be of use to you, like what attacks are good or bad and all that.
Thanks, Baity.

*runs through Google Translate real fast*

Okay, I can see the part about a charge shot being able to take out Lily rather quickly (that'll actually be pretty helpful), and I think it says I should also take advantage of the fact her charge shot can destroy bullets. It warns that her C2 is fairly easy to spit back at her, but it's still reliable enough to use to give breathing room if so needed (so I guess it's saying "it's not that great, but it's not worthless"). Best if her C2 is combined with her C3 (which I'm guessing means I shouldn't bother with her boss attack). It also comments that her EX skill is easy to mistake for a spirit, which I'm guessing would help against human opponents.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2009, 11:24:26 PM by AlexX »

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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2009, 01:05:18 AM »
1) Scoring. When I've reached her last halforb, I've had 34m score....and I see this cool dude having 78m there, which would give me 2 more lives.
What do you do to score that high so I can actually 1cc it?

Higher score generally requires much more dangerous play. The quickest way to get your score up is to kill as many things onscreen as quickly as possible. Kill one fairy in a chain and set off a combo; kill fairies near bullets so the bullets get cancelled out; clear bullets with level 2 attacks, etc. Basically, spamming and such is the best way to score, but it'll become much more dangerous. The more bullets you cancel out at once, the more come back at you later.

Once fairy deaths start to give off yellow text, you've reached maximum kill value. At that point, if you want to keep them at max value, never stop killing.

It's basically a decision between safety and score, like in all the other games :V

2) Girls you get to fight. Are they fixed for each touhou or random? I DON'T want to fight Medicine again. EVER. It's like forcing StB camera charge. Which I DON'T WANT TO PLAY AGAIN.
EVER.
seriously.

It's random to a small degree.
-Stage 1 is either Cirno or Mystia (if you are playing as one of those, your Stage 1 will be the other, or Lyrica)
-Stages 2-3 can be Lyrica, Tei, or the Stage 1 boss you didn't fight.
-Stages 4-5 are usually either Reimu, Marisa, Sakuya, Youmu, or Reisen.
-Stage 6 is always the same, but it varies between opponent. For example, Reisen will always fight Sakuya in Stage 6. Yuka will always fight Reimu. The character you fight here will never be in Stages 1-5.
-Stage 7 is always Medicine or Aya. Who you face depends on who you're using.
---Reimu, Marisa, Youmu, Cirno, Lyrica, Yuka, and Shikieki fight Aya.
---Sakuya, Reisen, Mystia, Tei, Aya fight Medicine.
---Medicine and Komachi, for some reason, fight Yuka.
-Stage 8 is always Komachi, except Komachi herself, who fights Reimu (although Cirno, Lyrica, and Mystia fight Yuka for some reason...).
-Stage 9 is, obviously, always Shikieki :V

There are occasional exceptions to the above, usually having to do with some plot-related drivel. Reisen always fights Tei at Stage 3, for example.

3) Sakuya. Is she controlled by Shiki AI or something? I ALWAYS lose her first round in the worst way possible and she takes 1 hit at most before I die.

It depends on what Stage you're on. Stage 6 AI is about 23720148721034 times harder than Stages 1-5, but Sakuya is the worst difficulty spike. Reisen's scenario makes me want to cry, since you go through Sakuya, then Medicine, then Komachi, then Shiki.

4) Is there a tier list? For now, I just take whatever girl doesn't have clear next to her name and attempt with her.
Apparently Medicine trips up the AI even more than me a few minutes ago(2 deaths, then a close win) and Aya kind of breaks it too.

The AI is programmed to dodge at the last possible frame it's possible to dodge bullets. Since Medicine slows down the AI, the timing is thrown off, hence why she's such a gamebreaker. With Aya, her bullets are just so god damned fast that the AI can't get out of the way in time.

As for a tier list, I've often wondered this myself. A lot of characters have one good thing, and then a lot of little bad things. For example, Reisen has a terrible L1 attack and laughable EX attacks (seriously, sit still and wait for one to come at you. It will detonate and the explosion will not touch you.), but she has, in my opinion, one of the best spirit-activating fields in the game. Cirno has a pathetic field, bad attacks, but she spawns EX attacks faster than other characters.

A quick tier list I made in six seconds :V
Top Tier
Aya
Medicine
High Tier
Shikieki
Komachi
Tei
Reimu
Mid-Tier
Sakuya
Marisa
Reisen
Cirno
I-don't-play-them-enough-to-know-for-sure-but-they're-probably-shit Tier
Everyone else besides Youmu
Garbage Tier
Youmu

5) Strategy....is there something more to it than "smash the shoot button, dodge crap, charge a lv2 when walled, repeat"?

Generally, there are two major strategies:
---Scoring: In which you spam attacks and never let up on the shooting. This fills up the screen with white bullets very very quickly, so you have to be extra careful.
---Survival: In which you go at a normal pace, but occasionally stop shooting. Stop shooting anywhere from thirty seconds to a minute. You'll be amazed at how quickly your screen empties of bullets.



Hope this helped :V
« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 01:21:43 AM by Serafie »

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2009, 01:25:28 AM »
A quick tier list I made in six seconds :V
[...]
High Tier
[...]
Tei
Reimu
Wait, what does Tewi have that makes her better than Reimu? From what I understand Reimu has a smaller hitbox on her person and a bigger one on her yinyangs than Tewi's bouncy balls, not to mention a far better charge attack...

...And why is Youmu so bad? Doesn't her lv1 clear bullets?

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ebarrett

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2009, 01:40:28 AM »
A quick tier list I made in six seconds :V

Well, tiers are weird, because mine goes like this (mostly considering story mode):

Top tier
Mystia
Marisa
Shikieiki

High tier
Cirno
Reimu
Sakuya

Mid-tier
Yuka
Komachi
Tewi

Low tier
Reisen
Lyrica
Youmu

And for match mode, I liked playing with Lunasa, but someone broke her at some point with one of the patches and now it's impossible to charge with her. Never played with Merlin now that I think about it.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 01:42:17 AM by ebarrett »

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2009, 01:52:43 AM »
So, I'm trying to 1cc PoFV lunatic.....best I've managed was last life half left for Shiki before I've died....but I still don't understand some mechanics.

1) Scoring. When I've reached her last halforb, I've had 34m score....and I see this cool dude having 78m there, which would give me 2 more lives.
What do you do to score that high so I can actually 1cc it?

2) Girls you get to fight. Are they fixed for each touhou or random? I DON'T want to fight Medicine again. EVER. It's like forcing StB camera charge. Which I DON'T WANT TO PLAY AGAIN.
EVER.
seriously.

3) Sakuya. Is she controlled by Shiki AI or something? I ALWAYS lose her first round in the worst way possible and she takes 1 hit at most before I die.

4) Is there a tier list? For now, I just take whatever girl doesn't have clear next to her name and attempt with her.
Apparently Medicine trips up the AI even more than me a few minutes ago(2 deaths, then a close win) and Aya kind of breaks it too.

5) Strategy....is there something more to it than "smash the shoot button, dodge crap, charge a lv2 when walled, repeat"?
1. Can't really tell you, I don't usually worry about anything score-related that isn't my spellpoint gauge.

2. Each character fights a specific set of characters, but the order the fights are in can vary.

3. I've always found Sakuya to be one of the easier characters to beat.  Do you have trouble with her EX attacks?  I could do a quick run against the hard/lunatic AI and give you the replay if you need some reference as to how to deal with her.

4. After about ten revisions, I made a tier list, but it's for PvP, not vs AI.  Off the top of my head though from my time playing lunatic match play, it'd probably look something like this:

Top
-----
Aya (AI can't dodge fast bullets)
Medicine (AI can't dodge when moving slow (allegedly anyway; from my experience, characters from Shiki speed up seem to be able to deal with it, though that's speaking from match play experience)

High
-----
Reimu (lv2 bombs tear everything apart)
Youmu (EX and boss attacks take the AI out before it knows what happened, plus you can play defensively with ease)
Marisa (lol lv2 bombs)
Sakuya (EX knives wall the AI effectively)
Shikieiki (Judgement "The Last Judgement".  That is all.)

Mid
-----
Yuka (Flower walls + Q.E.D. ripoff)
Tewi (Bouncing amulets + automatic deathbomb)
Cirno (Perfect Freeze helps with your survival,, randomized bullets sometimes trip the AI up.  Also, ICICLES, THOUSANDS OF THEM)


Low
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Komachi (there may be lots of bullets, but they aren't dense at all and the AI doesn't have a problem with that.  However her awesome charge and scope keep her from being bottom tier)
Mystia (again, lots of space between bullets, except now they're slower and there's less of them.  Again though, awesome scope, and a decent lv2 bomb)

Bottom
-----
Reisen (The only thing that's ever going to land a hit is the speedy shots in "Luna Megalopolis", otherwise her EX attacks will detonate before they hit the opponent, and her bombs are worthless.  However, her lv1 charge is arguably the best defensive/offensive lv1 in the game, so you can still win through sheer survival)
Lyrica (Music notes can't hit shit)

For match play, you can add Lunasa in mid and Merlin in bottom.

5. lv1 charges, use them.  Most characters can use one or two lv1 charges to destroy Lily before she even gets a chance to shoot, and boss characters can go down in about four with characters like Marisa and Reisen.  Plus, the items bosses drop let you turn the tide on your opponent almost instantly.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 02:00:17 AM by Lifespring Infinity »

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2009, 02:17:20 AM »
Wait, what does Tewi have that makes her better than Reimu? From what I understand Reimu has a smaller hitbox on her person and a bigger one on her yinyangs than Tewi's bouncy balls, not to mention a far better charge attack...

...And why is Youmu so bad? Doesn't her lv1 clear bullets?
Do note the "six seconds" part. :V

I was mostly thinking about Tei's automatic death-bomb essentially giving her an extra life, but now that I think about it, yeah, I'd put Reimu above her.

As for lolyoumu, I just can't find anything good. She moves too fast unfocused and too slow focused. Her scope is useless since it requires you to wait FOREVER to activate anything (Cirno has this even worse, since hers doesn't even expand), during which you're almost as slow as charging Aya in StB, and it takes her a full second to charge. Her sword's ability to destroy bullets doesn't do much when you're in the middle of clusterfucks of bullets where more just come right after you destroy some. Not to mention that by the time you really need to use it, it takes too long to charge her attacks.


Maybe I'm just really terrible at PoFV with anyone besides Yuka.

EDIT: Yeah I'm starting to think it's just that :V
« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 02:21:00 AM by Serafie »

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2009, 02:26:58 AM »
As for lolyoumu, I just can't find anything good. She moves too fast unfocused and too slow focused. Her scope is useless since it requires you to wait FOREVER to activate anything (Cirno has this even worse, since hers doesn't even expand), during which you're almost as slow as charging Aya in StB, and it takes her a full second to charge. Her sword's ability to destroy bullets doesn't do much when you're in the middle of clusterfucks of bullets where more just come right after you destroy some. Not to mention that by the time you really need to use it, it takes too long to charge her attacks.
Youmu requires an entirely different mindset and good knowledge of the opponent's bombs and boss cards, plus a "don't-bomb-unless-you-know-you'll-have-to" mindset.  When playing Youmu, your goal isn't to kill everything in sight and overwhelm your opponent, it's to wait them out, use lv1 charges to slash a hole in key parts of bullet patterns, and to cleave Lily to pieces for your moment of offense.  Her EX attacks pile up and eat away at your opponent's space, and her boss attacks are designed to force them to move in that limited space.  Which, against the AI, even the match play lunatic AI, works extremely well.

ebarrett

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 02:40:14 AM »
As for lolyoumu, I just can't find anything good. She moves too fast unfocused and too slow focused. Her scope is useless since it requires you to wait FOREVER to activate anything (Cirno has this even worse, since hers doesn't even expand), during which you're almost as slow as charging Aya in StB, and it takes her a full second to charge.

I agree with you on Youmu but Cirno's scope is pretty decent; fixed size, instant deployement, circle-shaped. You just have to be proactive.

And Youmu's scope is horrible not only because it takes forever to expand, but because just after pressing shift you're still vulnerable to ramming a spirit while moving, and if you keep it for too long it gets TOO large and starts activating spirits everywhere - including in places where they'll end up exploding at you from weird directions.

A lot of pros play Youmu, though, so who knows.

Bananamatic

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 04:17:12 AM »
Actually, that run where I got Shiki down to her last life with only 34m score and still had 1 life was with Youmu.... :V

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2009, 04:18:54 AM »
Actually, that run where I got Shiki down to her last life with only 34m score and still had 1 life was with Youmu.... :V
Like I said, you play Youmu defensively, not offensively.

Playing defensively means stuff doesn't die.

Stuff not dying means you don't get points. :V

Though thinking about it that way, I bet Reisen's godly for scoring.

Bananamatic

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2009, 04:02:10 PM »
Replay here.
21m at stage 7.....there has to be something I'm doing wrong.
I should probably not wait for so long before lv2ing.

I shoot the crap out of everything, but I still can't get even the 50m extend.

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2009, 06:57:24 PM »
Reisen (The only thing that's ever going to land a hit is the speedy shots in "Luna Megalopolis", otherwise her EX attacks will detonate before they hit the opponent, and her bombs are worthless.  However, her lv1 charge is arguably the best defensive/offensive lv1 in the game, so you can still win through sheer survival)
Interestingly, this contradicts the thing that Baity posted,which said that I'm better off using level 2 and lv3 bombs in combination rather than attempting to use her boss attack, which implies the boss attack isn't good... (though it does agree that using a lv2 on its own is rather easy to send back at her)

Times like this I wish I was a better player, if only to be able to identify strengths and weaknesses on my own more reliably...

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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2009, 07:57:55 PM »
Interestingly, this contradicts the thing that Baity posted,which said that I'm better off using level 2 and lv3 bombs in combination rather than attempting to use her boss attack, which implies the boss attack isn't good... (though it does agree that using a lv2 on its own is rather easy to send back at her)

Times like this I wish I was a better player, if only to be able to identify strengths and weaknesses on my own more reliably...
Well, you should never use a lv4 bomb, only 2's, and maybe 3's if you know what you're doing.  But speed is the Achilles heel of the AI, and Reisen's boss attack has one phase that's nothing but speed.

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2009, 08:02:35 PM »
Well, you should never use a lv4 bomb, only 2's, and maybe 3's if you know what you're doing.  But speed is the Achilles heel of the AI, and Reisen's boss attack has one phase that's nothing but speed.
Clearly this means I should go on a mission to 1CC Lunatic story mode with Reisen.*

*Not really... I can't even do that with broken chars like Aya or Medicine; I couldn't do it with Reisen.

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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2009, 08:32:01 PM »
Replay here.
21m at stage 7.....there has to be something I'm doing wrong.
I should probably not wait for so long before lv2ing.

I shoot the crap out of everything, but I still can't get even the 50m extend.
Just watched the replay and from my initial impressions your biggest problem by far is not spamming your L2s enough... I'd go so far as to say that for the first five stages, if your gauge gets 3 bars full you should use an L2 out of general principle. ALWAYS use an L2 on Lily White regardless of whether or not you think you can take the bulletspam, etc. I haven't really used Tewi much, though, so I could be wrong; going to try a Lunatic run now and see if she's any good with scoring. Unless Tewi is absurdly bad compared to Reimu, Marisa or Shiki, though, you can and should be at 10m by the end of Stage 3 or so, 30m by the end of Stage 6 and 50m by the end of Stage 8. :V
Let's fight.

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2009, 08:36:56 PM »
Unless Tewi is absurdly bad compared to Reimu, Marisa or Shiki
Pretty much. :V

Her EX has the same rape properties as Reimu's yin-yang orbs, but nothing else is going to give the AI any trouble whatsoever. k;

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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2009, 09:03:13 PM »
Pretty much. :V

Her EX has the same rape properties as Reimu's yin-yang orbs, but nothing else is going to give the AI any trouble whatsoever. k;
Eh... she didn't seem that bad. Nice charge speed, nice movement speed, bosses died fairly quickly. :V

Anywho, here's the run I just did with Tewi. I lost to Shiki, predictably enough, but I did pretty well on most stages. Far as I can there's absolutely nothing wrong with Tewi for gaining lives, at any rate; I'd almost hit the 70m extend by the time I got a game over.

Unrelated, pretty pleased with the battle against Reisen and the final battle against Shiki (even though I lost that one but still).
Let's fight.

Bananamatic

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2009, 09:27:03 PM »
I dunno who should I use. I just randomly pick one loli without a clear next to her name and attempt with her.
Not trying with anyone who has to fight Medicine though.

Aren't the poison clouds just supposed to slow you down? I swear that she has one attack where she spawns like 4 on you, which stops you almost completely.

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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2009, 09:40:17 PM »
I dunno who should I use. I just randomly pick one loli without a clear next to her name and attempt with her.
Not trying with anyone who has to fight Medicine though.

Aren't the poison clouds just supposed to slow you down? I swear that she has one attack where she spawns like 4 on you, which stops you almost completely.
IMO, go with Reimu. Very fast charging and a nice slow movement speed, plus deals with the AI pretty well and doesn't fight Medicine. The Tewi attempt just now was actually my first time fighting Lunatic Medicine... way too many 'CAN'T SEE SHIT CAPTAIN' moments going on there. There was a part where I literally had no idea at all where I was. :V
Let's fight.

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Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2009, 10:04:33 PM »
Tried Marisa a while ago....
I swear, Sakuya stage6 has BULLSHIT AI.
She didn't take a single hit until 2:20. Same for Aya.

EDIT: Okay, all st6 and 7 have bullshit AI.
I have no idea how Aya manages to pull 3 boss spells out of her ass.
Same for Marisa. Up to st5 it's easy, then it turns almost impossible to beat some touhous on the first round.
Not to mention that Marisa walls me off from the fairies and breaks my chains while she just endlessly throws spells.
It's stupid how you almost beat her, then 1 minute into the fight you get hit two times in a row because of the lasers and you are on your last life.

I usually lose once or twice to st6, then the difficulty goes down to cirno level, Aya goes mostly down on the second try with my last life left....

Komachi is a bit luck based since she can sometimes perfect me on the first round and sometimes I beat her.....and Shikieiki takes 2 continues.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 10:31:16 PM by Bananamatic »

Re: PoFV halp
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2009, 05:30:05 AM »
Okay, I'm starting to think I really CAN do it. I game over'd at Lunatic Medicine on Reisen's scenario, but I DID get her all the way to half a life left and lasted for a good while before dying.

Does Reisen have a notable passive skill, like Tewi's auto deathbomb or Reimu's tiny hitbox?
« Last Edit: October 24, 2009, 05:34:32 AM by AlexX »

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