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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #210 on: November 02, 2009, 06:32:52 AM »
don't people read the notices? It's been stated to be Nov. 10th for half a week now.

I'm sorry if I mistook "Valkyrie Sky Mythology continues!" for some useless in-game-but-not-in-the-actual-game lore mumbo-jumbo which I certaily wouldn't bother to read.  :V

Also, I noticed that no one in this topic ever talks about Swordman, or Mage skills, and only a few times have summoner skills been mentioned. Why is that?

Because real men in frilly dresses and fancy hats play Bowmen?

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #211 on: November 02, 2009, 06:47:10 AM »
Because real men in frilly dresses and fancy hats play Bowmen?

Too bad no one gets Frilly Dresses or fancy hats in Valkyrie Sky.

I guess people really do go with what they're familiar with. Bowman is the typical vertical scrolling shot type there is. Summoner get's second mention because of Reimu's homing bullets. Mage style is, I think more related to the Tornado shooter sequence in the sonic games, and I don't know how to relate Swordsman's style, so yeah.

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« Reply #212 on: November 02, 2009, 06:49:42 AM »
Too bad no one gets Frilly Dresses or fancy hats in Valkyrie Sky.

I guess people really do go with what they're familiar with. Bowman is the typical vertical scrolling shot type there is. Summoner get's second mention because of Reimu's homing bullets. Mage style is, I think more related to the Tornado shooter sequence in the sonic games, and I don't know how to relate Swordsman's style, so yeah.

Its easy, consider why Reimu and Youmu are top tier in PoFV.  :V

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #213 on: November 02, 2009, 07:50:15 AM »
I notice most of the discussion in the valk forums talks about summoners and warriors, go figure.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #214 on: November 02, 2009, 08:58:42 AM »
Can I say it in red for clarity ?  :V

November 3rd is the deadline for that "Elite Frontier" title event for the top 10 of each class
November 2nd is the deadline for the survey event they're running
November 10th is when CBT actually ends
I have no idea how Zakeri got another one of those rare bows again


Elite Frontier requirements are "reach Lv20 before CBT ends" according to the game

I have no idea if what you said is the truth or not. If so then that kinda sucks. I want shinies.

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« Reply #215 on: November 02, 2009, 09:41:36 AM »
its in red right ?  :V

the lv 20 things was from before the game changed hands.

You should still get First Frontier though.

finally reached 50; no more grinding for me  ;D

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #216 on: November 02, 2009, 09:54:03 AM »
its in red right ?  :V

the lv 20 things was from before the game changed hands.

You should still get First Frontier though.

finally reached 50; no more grinding for me  ;D

Yeaaaah that's what I thought

Since I handed off my 1st CBT acc to someone else :/

Anyway whatever

I think unique drops have been shuffled, I think I've been farming the wrong place for a certain unique =___= Someone help me out here.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #217 on: November 02, 2009, 10:16:21 AM »
I don't think the first first CBT counts since it changed hands.

This would basically be the "first CBT" in a relative sense.

There's a partial list on the forums of current drops. I didn't find too many myself. with 20 luck  :V

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #218 on: November 02, 2009, 10:26:25 AM »
There's a partial list on the forums of current drops. I didn't find too many myself. with 20 luck  :V

I have no idea how Zakeri got another one of those rare bows again

...

Either way, Gratz on fifty.

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« Reply #219 on: November 02, 2009, 10:35:04 AM »
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Either way, Gratz on fifty.

thankies

suddenly all these daily quests pop up; after you reach 50  :-\

its a lvl 50 bow, right ? I thought you couldn't go to those areas until it opens up for ya  :V

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #220 on: November 02, 2009, 10:54:15 AM »
I don't think the first first CBT counts since it changed hands.

This would basically be the "first CBT" in a relative sense.

There's a partial list on the forums of current drops. I didn't find too many myself. with 20 luck  :V

The drops seem to have changed since GameNGame, is what I meant :/

I mean, does Hoedur's Wing Coat still drop in Dark Wood 3, for instance? I spent 4 hours farming it to no avail, with 107 Luck

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #221 on: November 02, 2009, 11:50:01 AM »
A few questions I have:
-Can you get more than 1 life for stages? I know there is a stat called 'Life piece' I asume if you have 1+ of this that you get 1 more life?

-How do you know if some1 is Bran or Asen? You can see and play stages with both and the only time you fight them is in pvp zones, right?

-Is there a shrinemaiden guild? I wanna be in the guild!

-How do you get more coins? I started with 2 and used them, then suddenly I got 2 again?
« Last Edit: November 02, 2009, 11:52:50 AM by Kawaii Yokai »

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #222 on: November 02, 2009, 01:26:00 PM »
I don't really know, but I assume on the world map that Bran people have black wings and Asen people have white wings. I think you can only run stages with people of your own faction, and that should be the case, though Rabbit tells me that he got ganked by a Bran while on the world map.

Nah, I'm in Bran and my Bowman has pretty white wings. ;D

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« Reply #223 on: November 02, 2009, 01:29:22 PM »
another question: As a mage can I blindly spam my points into intelligence? or is it wise to get some luck/strength or something aswell?

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #224 on: November 02, 2009, 02:52:44 PM »
another question: As a mage can I blindly spam my points into intelligence? or is it wise to get some luck/strength or something aswell?

For Mage:

INT > CHR = DEX > LUK > STR

Something like that

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #225 on: November 02, 2009, 03:45:55 PM »
For Mage:

INT > CHR = DEX > LUK > STR

Something like that
doesn't really help, I want to know if I have to spend all my points on INT when I level up or spend some on different stats

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #226 on: November 02, 2009, 07:43:29 PM »
The drops seem to have changed since GameNGame, is what I meant :/

I mean, does Hoedur's Wing Coat still drop in Dark Wood 3, for instance? I spent 4 hours farming it to no avail, with 107 Luck

Yea it probably got moved, I remember getting it in some stage 5; forget where, but the boss was bs to dodge.

Started a Swordsman for kicks; sure feels like easy mode.  :V

I did notice it took more circles to fill the booster; but I can dash a lot more than the short amount I could as a Bowman. So I can't really say its a plus at all.

There's a boss that does a exact copy of Envy "Green-Eyed Invisible Monster" but I can't remember which. The fun looking attacks are so far and rare in between the generic ones  :-[
« Last Edit: November 02, 2009, 08:44:18 PM by pok »

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #227 on: November 02, 2009, 10:18:44 PM »
doesn't really help, I want to know if I have to spend all my points on INT when I level up or spend some on different stats
It takes 5 points to add 1 permanent point to your steady damage and you get 5 per level early on, so unless/until you start getting more than 5 in later levels I'd say you should dump them all into your main attack stat.

Likewise, I'm putting all my stats into Charm right now.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2009, 10:20:21 PM by AlexX »

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #228 on: November 02, 2009, 11:52:23 PM »
Wow... Stair Bridge (aka, surprise clip death/mega cheap, point blank surprise bullet land) is infuriating. I'd sooner play me a CAVE game or three than... ...that. They maybe hard as hell, but (usually) shy away from cheap crap like that. ~_~

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #229 on: November 03, 2009, 12:27:10 AM »
Touhou advice still applies.

Bomb more  :V

There's no spellcard bonus; just bomb. (There is however a title achievement for pacifist timing out a boss over lvl 20 or 30)

Stair Bridge practically almost uses the same stage mechanics up to Glass bridge, so you can curse yourself each time you have to go back there. :)

There's much worse though, down the line...
« Last Edit: November 03, 2009, 12:30:02 AM by pok »

ebarrett

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #230 on: November 03, 2009, 12:31:46 AM »
Apparently in the first beta there was a "Lunatic" title for a lvl20+ stage pacifist clear

Apparently there isn't anymore  :(

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #231 on: November 03, 2009, 02:07:24 AM »
Apparently in the first beta there was a "Lunatic" title for a lvl20+ stage pacifist clear

Apparently there isn't anymore  :(

Apparently the guy who found out is probably very frusterated >=P

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #232 on: November 03, 2009, 03:22:02 AM »
Apparently the guy who found out is probably very frusterated >=P

I checked the forums and it seems they changed it for "Mad Man" at lvl30+ and "Lunatic" at lvl40+

Which is fair enough, actually. Pacifist/no deaths at lowish 20s isn't hard at all if you know where to go.



#1 cause of swordsman death: MIMIC SWEEP  :V

Also, Sword Spirit is hax tier and PentaSlash is wonderful since it barely stops you despite the ominous description.

oh and #2 cause of deaths: pressing the wrong button  :V :V :V

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #233 on: November 03, 2009, 04:00:52 AM »
it takes like 15 mins to timeout a boss though...
that's way longer than any spell card out there  :V :V

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #234 on: November 03, 2009, 04:24:40 AM »
Summoner Skills Suck. Tamer is where it's at.

So far, I've maxed out Illusion Cannon. It's worthless until level 4-5 where is actually has range. I'm also working on Arcane Sword, it's at level 3 now. I sort of wish it would spin and block for a longer time. I actually prefer the Random Chance of the Bowman's Snare to the Astral Sword, since if Snare doesn't work, I'll at least know that in time to dodge the bullets :V

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #235 on: November 03, 2009, 04:54:39 AM »
Summoner Skills Suck. Tamer is where it's at.

So far, I've maxed out Illusion Cannon. It's worthless until level 4-5 where is actually has range. I'm also working on Arcane Sword, it's at level 3 now. I sort of wish it would spin and block for a longer time. I actually prefer the Random Chance of the Bowman's Snare to the Astral Sword, since if Snare doesn't work, I'll at least know that in time to dodge the bullets :V

no Malice cannon then ?  :V

Cripple Barrier is fun, its like a bomb. without the damage. Time stop like Sakuya
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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #236 on: November 03, 2009, 05:30:29 AM »
no Malice cannon then ?  :V

It's Malice Cannon without the "m".

The funny thing is, they give you three charges per level, but it's impossible to use more than one charge in less time than it takes to fill one up. The only reason you shouldn't just mash the button is so the screen doesn't fill up with "Cannot use this skill yet."

But yes, Summoner's skills do tend to look like Alice and Marisa's spells. Death Lines reminds me of the Orbs Marisa and Mima use to surround herself in the PC-98, Illusion Cannon is basically the Illusion Laser from PCB, I haven't tried Deathspike yet though.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #237 on: November 03, 2009, 07:11:46 AM »
WHAT GOOD IS SWORDIES' PARRY IF ENEMIES ALWAYS FOLLOW EACH OTHER IN LINES

/caps
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Also, am I becoming paranoid or bosses hit you with a lot of non-bullet stuff when you're right in their faces? Claw swipes, tailslaps, the like. At the very least bosses have the weirdest hitboxes.

Oh well. I think I found my "comfort zone" for playing swordsmen: recklessly try to slaughter everything in the most amusing way possible before dying, and reverting to coward mode while letting Spirit Sword do all the work after dying.


Cripple Barrier is fun, its like a bomb. without the damage. Time stop like Sakuya

Sir, you just decided my 4th swordie skill for me. Spirit/Penta/Divide/Barrier it is, then.

Oh and lol me pumping CHA for that lvl20 artifact sword.



edit: does cripple barrier work on bullets fired after activation?
« Last Edit: November 03, 2009, 07:18:24 AM by ebarrett »

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #238 on: November 03, 2009, 08:26:09 AM »
edit: does cripple barrier work on bullets fired after activation?

ya  :V

better to cancel it before it expires on its own though, you don't want to get hit by something after your little safety zone goes kaput.

Plus the fact you can't move while using it.
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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #239 on: November 03, 2009, 10:13:02 AM »
Cripple Barrier is horrible unless you for some reason want to spend 60 JP maxing it out.

I don't know why none of you swear by Throw Sword, it's easily one of the best crowd clearing Swordman skills there is. It's a good contender for DPS next to Penta Slash, Spirit Swords and can cancel bullets, which make it good for evading stuff like when using Leap Smash and Mangling. Only disadvantage Throw Sword has is you can't attack while you use it (for obvious reasons) but you should have decent timing to know when to use it. Sadly I still have a bunch of retarded deaths as a result.

Also, am I becoming paranoid or bosses hit you with a lot of non-bullet stuff when you're right in their faces? Claw swipes, tailslaps, the like. At the very least bosses have the weirdest hitboxes.

Oh and lol me pumping CHA for that lvl20 artifact sword.

Most of the bosses use their appendages/weapons to attack you WHILE shooting you at the same time so they do it regardless of whether or not you're right in their face. The first annoying instance of this is Stair Bridge (yeah lots of annoying firsts in Bifrost, I fucking hate that area) Stage 3's midboss, who throws his staff at you while doing stereotypical circle bullet spread. If you get hit by the staff's wonky hitboss, you will be dead for sure.

Regin's Destiny is a waste of 70 CHR, which I'm definitely sure is a typo or bug. :/
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