Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.

[Be Pok U (1998 burst style)]

"What's that? You got away from my pet? Here, have some wasps that will follow you all the way across the map and slow you down enough so that I can stunlock you."

Worse time; I went into a fight in progress, only to come in as the summoner killed the last guy, I spawn right next to him.. instant death. What  :V

Oh btw, Not all Touhou names are taken after all, the game accepts unicode; so get yer touhou names in Japanese and get labeled a weeaboo today!

[WHMZakeri]

I guess now would be a good time to try out Summoner's playstyle again.

Make way for アリス・マーガトロイド!

Also, it looks like people are finally talking to the guys on the official forums about how broken and useless PvP is.

[Ghaleon]

Anybody know what's up with the quest "strange request"? It says to search zone 2 area (I forget the name), and green wood for his axe. I went to both areas, and well, looked for an axe, didn't see it. went back to him, and I can't turn it in, went to both of em again, tried "/search" or whatever. no dice. Do I actually have to do the stages? I don't see how it's possible to do both in 8 minutes...

[WHMZakeri]

Do I actually have to do the stages?

umm ... yes. Searching requires doing at least one stage.

it's also easy.

[Be Pok U (1998 burst style)]

I remember that... I don't think I picked up any axe, you just search and then turn it in... or something... 

btw I've mastered the worse place in the world and returned with boundless treasures  :V :V :V

[Ghaleon]

Yeah, searching both in 8 mins would be impossible I think except the timer freezes during the actual stage. I know they last longer than a minute >=P. Anyway thanks.

I'm playing an archer, and so far I haven't had many problems soloing everything so far (I die sometimes on stage trash when it suddenly zooms on a collision course towards me when I don't really expect it, you move so slow that you can't really avoid it if you don't know it's coming), bosses are a joke compared to the actual stages for me. The last zone I've done was black cloud.  I'm starting to notice that I'll probably ahve to group up for the next zone, or the one after that mostly because the enemies are stuffing up the screen just as fast as I can kill em, I'm sure soon they'll just overwhelm. Or maybe it's just my level is too low, I don't know. (I did it at 7 but level ups don't really seem to increase your power that much imo).

Is there a certain point in the game where general consensus says you absolutely cannot solo something? If so what. And why do people ask me to group up with them in the first 2 zones? For god's sakes most of the enemies don't even fire bullets in there!

One little thing I've noticed is that I generally get 3-6 items per stage in the newbie zones. And in higher level zones (for me).. I get like 1. I thought higher level zones were supposed to give MORE loot, am I the only one experiencing this? Also, I got like 10 pieces of mithril already, which is supposedly hard to get, along with multiple pieces of yew, maple, and some other wood. But only 1 lonely piece of spruce, which is supposedly the common low-grade crap. Anybody else experience this as well?

I guess I should ask these on the actual valk sky forums since it's beta stage lol. I'm just enjoying it and am curious what fellow touhou shmuppers think of it too.

As for the music, I have to say that every song seems to hint a piece of touhou music at the beginning, but otherwise it seems to be its own material. For example the stage music for the 2nd zone (the undead one, I forget the name), totally sounds like a remilia (or was it patchy? Sorry I'm really tired >=P) remix for the first bit...then no more.

[AlexX Unlimited]

[...]you move so slow that you can't really avoid it if you don't know it's coming[...]

Don't you slow down if your inventory weight is above the halfway mark or something? I recall reading that holding too much would slow you down (so I do my best to take advantage of your "stash"/bank).

(I did it at 7 but level ups don't really seem to increase your power that much imo).

You have to distribute your stats manually. 5 into your primary stat increases your main damage, so that's probably going to be a top priority.

Is there a certain point in the game where general consensus says you absolutely cannot solo something? If so what. And why do people ask me to group up with them in the first 2 zones? For god's sakes most of the enemies don't even fire bullets in there!

Probably to help make a quest go faster, or just because slaughtering things in groups is fun. I can personally attest to the latter.

One little thing I've noticed is that I generally get 3-6 items per stage in the newbie zones. And in higher level zones (for me).. I get like 1. I thought higher level zones were supposed to give MORE loot, am I the only one experiencing this? Also, I got like 10 pieces of mithril already, which is supposedly hard to get, along with multiple pieces of yew, maple, and some other wood. But only 1 lonely piece of spruce, which is supposedly the common low-grade crap. Anybody else experience this as well?

Yeah, I couldn't get any copper for the longest time, but I got a good amount of iron, which is supposedly a lot rarer. I think it depends on your luck (meaning stat, but I'm sure personal matters, too).

In other news: Playing music is fun and helps others. I hate when bards charge for their concerts, so I try to give mine for free (even if I can only use the lowest-level flute and songs right now).

Fishing is fun, but I like cooking a lot better. Perhaps I should just buy fish. =p Seriously, you'd think I'd be used to it by now after playing so much Animal Crossing, but no, cooking is more fun.

Also, willowisp officially sucks. If you're a tamer, never get it. It has the same priority issues as the main monster (it goes after tougher monsters rather than groups where the AoE would help) and it can't even target bosses (seriously, use it during one... it'll float there for a few seconds before blowing up, because apparently the boss isn't a viable target).

Crow is proving to be rather useful. I'll probably level it and Puma most. The passive between them is also nice (defeated enemies occasionally fire revenge shots... at OTHER enemies). Swarm is okay, but I doubt I'll level it unless I have spare JP.

[Ghaleon]

Yeah, I read that too about inv, I think your speed depends on class though as well. I notice warriors for example seem to be fast, as well as magicians. My archer seems to crawl, even with my bags empty.

As for stats, I have been doing that, mostly dex. But pouring every single point into dex during a level up only increases my damage by 1 I think. I do n't think my damage output is low though, the few times I group up I seem to kill the beefy creatures faster than the other guy does..and my points zomgwtfpwn the other guys in the dust once we reach the boss (generally I'm way behind before the boss, unless I'm with a warrior). I'm just saying at "black cloud", it seems that enemy spawn rates are starting to outpace how much I can kill em. Some of the weaker trash take 2 hits to kill too.

As for grouping, I just don't enjoy it as much so far. Seems rather goofy to me, I see them zip around like maniacs cuz of lag or something, just irks me. Not to mention I don't like having to share the loot when I'm already very hard pressed getting that damn spruce.

I want to roll other characters to see how they play, but at the same time I don't want to repeat the easiest zones in the game again when I've just started reaching the better stages.

As for cooking...Am I missing something? I buy salt or peppers or whatever, and I pick what I want to make, and I sit there watching a bar move 20 times or so for the next 5 mins. I don't see how ANYBODY can think that's fun >=P, unless I'm missing something, you sir(ette?) are a weirdo!

[AlexX Unlimited]

As for cooking...Am I missing something? I buy salt or peppers or whatever, and I pick what I want to make, and I sit there watching a bar move 20 times or so for the next 5 mins. I don't see how ANYBODY can think that's fun >=P, unless I'm missing something, you sir(ette?) are a weirdo!

I think I'm too used to playing games where that use the exact same fishing minigame and I'm glad I can just get my HP-restoring items while I do something else and not have to focus on getting the proper combinations/timing. Plus it doesn't even require me to select the same item to cook it again, it just keeps going until I ask it to stop (which is nice, because usually I want to make as much of that item as I possibly can so I can get my stamina back up ASAP).

Perhaps ''fun" was the wrong choice of word, but I do like how it works overall.

[WHMZakeri]

Names only accept alpha-numeric characters. Pok lied to me. And after I had spent hours figuring out how to type glorious 日本語　on my computer...

[Helix ⑨]

If you still need help with Strange Request. I failed this one two times yesterday, but I did it after that. What you do is pick up the quest, teleport to one of the places, do stage 1 (it's the shortest), teleport to the other place and do that stage. You have now 'searched' those places and you can teleport back to the main city, I had like 3 minutes left

[trancehime]

Yeah, I read that too about inv, I think your speed depends on class though as well. I notice warriors for example seem to be fast, as well as magicians. My archer seems to crawl, even with my bags empty.

As for stats, I have been doing that, mostly dex. But pouring every single point into dex during a level up only increases my damage by 1 I think. I do n't think my damage output is low though, the few times I group up I seem to kill the beefy creatures faster than the other guy does..and my points zomgwtfpwn the other guys in the dust once we reach the boss (generally I'm way behind before the boss, unless I'm with a warrior). I'm just saying at "black cloud", it seems that enemy spawn rates are starting to outpace how much I can kill em. Some of the weaker trash take 2 hits to kill too.

Sounds like you have a weapon or gear issue. How good is your weapon? Do you enchant your equipment?

[WHMZakeri]

PvP is really starting to get me down.

I mean, yeah, I can take some people down even as a bowman. But then, sometimes, you just run into people that, no matter how many times you hit them for 200 damage, they don't lose any HP.

...:V

[FinnKaenbyou]

* Roukanken is lol Bran and can't join the guild. -_-

[Helix ⑨]

Wtf I was doing that place in Valhalla and we beat the 3rd stage boss and I win this wool robe, being a mage I was kinda happy, but then the game just shuts down before I could press take all D:

[rogles]

Downloading this right now. It looks nice.

[Ghaleon]

If you still need help with Strange Request. I failed this one two times yesterday, but I did it after that. What you do is pick up the quest, teleport to one of the places, do stage 1 (it's the shortest), teleport to the other place and do that stage. You have now 'searched' those places and you can teleport back to the main city, I had like 3 minutes left

no I did it, I'm just saying I thought it theoretically impossible to do in 8 mins. but it's not because once you actually start the stage, the timer stops... I think it still counts during the loot screen though.
edit: err thanks anyway though >=P

Sounds like you have a weapon or gear issue. How good is your weapon? Do you enchant your equipment?

Eh, no, I'm saving my mats until I hit level 10 and can make the level 10 bow, then Imma pour my resources into that one... Provided I ever get 4 spruce for the dang level 10 bow.

I'm "Ghaleon" on the Asen side btw. I generally enjoy soloing more than grouping, and don't really need help with anything (yet), but I'm willing to group up with some of you guys if you like some time >=)

edit: Gah, I seem to have been able to disable text s howing up. I can't see people talk, nor can I even see myself talk.

[ebarrett]

Yeah, I read that too about inv, I think your speed depends on class though as well. I notice warriors for example seem to be fast, as well as magicians. My archer seems to crawl, even with my bags empty.

Bowmen seem recharge the X-gauge a lot faster, though. Point for bowmen here if that's correct.

Oh and I picked Volley Shot. It's completely useless - I was hoping to use it against mobile bosses...... well it has pitiful range, questionable damage and it LOCKS YOU IN PLACE for about half a second while deploying. The Hunter/Hunter bullet-cancelling passive is pretty good against bosses, though..... as long as you're hitting them. It procs on hit to create a decently-sized circle which eats all bullets for about half a second, and if you're using Rapid Fire it'll proc often enough. A lifesaver.

Next time I'll pick Arbalest instead of Volley Shot, and maybe one level in Chasing Shot for boss levels.

Also tried out a swordsman(?). Absolutely horrible, definitely not easy modo. I'd rather have to dodge everything and die when it gets really difficuly instead of "whoosh whoosh whoosh bye bullets WHAT how did I die" while tickling the monsters and risking getting bodyslammed by something at any moment unless you go for the Fighter/Fighter passive.

[WHMZakeri]

Well, now I'm certain I don't want to be a swordsman anymore. I didn't want to be a mage either, and I still need an excuse to figure out if I can tolerate Summoner or not.

I just finished maxing out Arbalest last night, and I'm going to switch to Ranger to get Phoenix and Dragon shot. The only reason I'm even bothering with this is because I want to get the title that has you 1ccing a boss stage with only skills, and I don't know how far just Arba and Orb will get me.

[Be Pok U (1998 burst style)]

Bowmen seem recharge the X-gauge a lot faster, though. Point for bowmen here if that's correct.

What's the X-gauge? 

I just finished maxing out Arbalest last night, and I'm going to switch to Ranger to get Phoenix and Dragon shot. The only reason I'm even bothering with this is because I want to get the title that has you 1ccing a boss stage with only skills, and I don't know how far just Arba and Orb will get me.

Arbalest will get you as far as the size of the boss's hit box.  :V
I hear Phoenix is *the skill* to get for damage; not sure myself, since I already ran out of JP.

[Ghaleon]

What's the X-gauge? 

Arbalest will get you as far as the size of the boss's hit box.  :V
I hear Phoenix is *the skill* to get for damage; not sure myself, since I already ran out of JP.

x-guage...
when you stop shooting, you'll notice a little laser thingie orbitting around you, it goes from red to white, then it becomes a solid circle (I saw this on this thread somewhere btw, thank the guy who discovered this originally not me >=P). That's your x-guage. To use it, hold x down when you aren't shooting, and you'll suddenly move very quickly.. only lasts a second or two though.

[Be Pok U (1998 burst style)]

The booster ? at least that's what its called in the controls.
It does good damage against things you can't really hit; it almost looks like it eats bullets.

Can't say I've seen a difference in charge rate myself; wonder if someone did tests ?  Since the wiki for this is sorely empty and the documentation for this game is so so very sad.

[ebarrett]

Just pointing out that anyone wanting to test something better do it quick since the current "closed" beta ends november 3rd and who knows when it'll be available again.  :V

[RainfallYoshi]

I haven't actually been playing here lately, hahaha. I guess it works out that that I can wait until OBT so I can make a viable Bowman build. Volley Shot and Pain Shot are kind of meh.

[Be Pok U (1998 burst style)]

huh. they already changed it to the 10th; they changed it to the 2nd now ? ehhhhh.

[ebarrett]

Oh hadn't noticed it.  :V

Not sure what all these things with fancy names are though.

[Ghaleon]

Just pointing out that anyone wanting to test something better do it quick since the current "closed" beta ends november 3rd and who knows when it'll be available again.  :V

noooo... is this the 2nd closed beta btw? I'm hoping for that title.

[Be Pok U (1998 burst style)]

Can I say it in red for clarity ?  :V

November 3rd is the deadline for that "Elite Frontier" title event for the top 10 of each class
November 2nd is the deadline for the survey event they're running
November 10th is when CBT actually ends
I have no idea how Zakeri got another one of those rare bows again

[WHMZakeri]

don't people read the notices? It's been stated to be Nov. 10th for half a week now.

Not sure what all these things with fancy names are though.

I'm sorry, I understood what you were saying. Could you please be a little more vauge :V

Also, I noticed that no one in this topic ever talks about Swordman, or Mage skills, and only a few times have summoner skills been mentioned. Why is that?

[Ghaleon]

don't people read the notices? It's been stated to be Nov. 10th for half a week now.
I'm sorry, I understood what you were saying. Could you please be a little more vauge :V

Also, I noticed that no one in this topic ever talks about Swordman, or Mage skills, and only a few times have summoner skills been mentioned. Why is that?

Don't people read a question before they criticize it? I never asked when the beta is no longer available, I asked if this was the 2nd closed beta now.