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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2009, 01:44:52 PM »
Trauma Center 2, don't get the first one since the missions are rather bland and suffer from bad controls. The sequel fixed all those problems- it has some of the greatest video game music too.

Really? I never really noticed any bad controls in Trauma Center 1, and I've S-Ranked almost every operation. =<
Go play TC2, that will make the difference evident.

I've S-ranked every operation on 1 quite easily but I'm still trying to XS X6 on 2 even now after months. IMO 2 is just more fun and challenging~
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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2009, 09:51:09 PM »
Trauma Center 2, don't get the first one since the missions are rather bland and suffer from bad controls. The sequel fixed all those problems- it has some of the greatest video game music too.

Really? I never really noticed any bad controls in Trauma Center 1, and I've S-Ranked almost every operation. =<

From what I've experienced, the first Trauma Center required to you be very precise to suture any wounds and the missions weren't that fun to to me.
As for Trauma Center 2- I've beaten Alethia on XS, but I have yet to get any rank higher than an A on that mission because of that GUILT that goes into the body, spawns a tumor and then comes back up. I can't cut shit fast enough!

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2009, 10:39:07 PM »
Trauma Center 2, don't get the first one since the missions are rather bland and suffer from bad controls. The sequel fixed all those problems- it has some of the greatest video game music too.

Really? I never really noticed any bad controls in Trauma Center 1, and I've S-Ranked almost every operation. =<

From what I've experienced, the first Trauma Center required to you be very precise to suture any wounds and the missions weren't that fun to to me.
As for Trauma Center 2- I've beaten Alethia on XS, but I have yet to get any rank higher than an A on that mission because of that GUILT that goes into the body, spawns a tumor and then comes back up. I can't cut shit fast enough!

Must just be me, since I can barely A-rank most operations in Trauma Center 2, let alone complete the Aletheia operation, when most operation in TC1 were a piece of cake (for me) in comparison-- even the X-Operations.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2009, 03:10:24 AM »
If by chance you like to make your own music, I would highly recommend Korg DS-10 Synthesizer.
Basically what it is it's a fully functional synthesizer for the DS.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2009, 03:24:01 AM »
Dragon Quest IV was pretty much the best NES RPG. That you have not gotten Dragon Quest IV DS suggests ill things about your character.

DQ5 DS is also pretty neat, but I like DQ4 betterer.

Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2009, 01:19:58 AM »
SMT: Devil Survivor (which I lost patience with)
Tad off-topic, but am I really the only one who had absolutely no problem with this game? Sure, it has a couple challenging parts, but nothing THAT bad... Even the tough fights just took me 1 or 2 additional tries before I got the way to complete them down (including the final mission).

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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2009, 01:28:14 AM »
Go play TC2, that will make the difference evident.

I have TC2, and the Wii games as well. I know what the differences are. ^^;

Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2009, 01:41:36 AM »
Tad off-topic, but am I really the only one who had absolutely no problem with this game? Sure, it has a couple challenging parts, but nothing THAT bad... Even the tough fights just took me 1 or 2 additional tries before I got the way to complete them down (including the final mission).
TBH I wasted all my macca fusing demons back and forth and collecting every Elemental, so I might have done a bit better if it weren't for that :V

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2009, 04:40:53 AM »
Tad off-topic, but am I really the only one who had absolutely no problem with this game? Sure, it has a couple challenging parts, but nothing THAT bad... Even the tough fights just took me 1 or 2 additional tries before I got the way to complete them down (including the final mission).
It wasn't difficulty.  The game simply felt slow and a bit blocky, and I felt no particular compulsion to keep playing.  The music certainly wasn't helping; other than Beldr and Reset, they feel forgettable and have an air of...sullen despair is the best way I can think of phrasing it.  Not the kind of music that keeps you going...

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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2009, 09:04:13 PM »
It wasn't difficulty.  The game simply felt slow and a bit blocky, and I felt no particular compulsion to keep playing.  The music certainly wasn't helping; other than Beldr and Reset, they feel forgettable and have an air of...sullen despair is the best way I can think of phrasing it.  Not the kind of music that keeps you going...
Not sure why you say the game feels slow... Maybe you're just used to recent FE games and the fact they seem to trivialize gametime? =p I know skipping enemy turns in Shadow Dragon can be that way and I get angry when I don't realize someone died until the end of the mission because of abusing it.

Soundtrack does feel limited, I admit... It doesn't get good (or even really change) until the tail-end. I think it was done that way to make it feel more like you're trapped and forced to fight for your life each and every day, but honestly, I just ignored the music on my New Game+'s and experimented to see stuff like... how many people I could let die, and how many playable characters I could unlock a single playthrough. I always pay attention for the final boss area and battle themes though, as Garuda and Last Decision are awesome any day of the week (but I don't think I'll be beating the EX boss anytime soon... Honestly, I'm not even sure if the reward for winning is even worth it considering what I'll have to go through just to survive his first form*).

*The number crunching I did showed that the fight is *INSANE*. Even if you're the max level with the most optimal skills for your demons you can STILL die easily. I also hear Devil Survivor's RNG is rather weird, but it's hard to tell that for sure without a displayed success chance (though I've played FE5 (Thracia 776) before, so I don't think I have any right to complain about weird RNG actions... I think you know what I mean, but I can't remember if you said you played it before and I haven't been at FESS's archives in forever to check).

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2009, 06:22:07 PM »
Dragon Quest IV was pretty much the best NES RPG. That you have not gotten Dragon Quest IV DS suggests ill things about your character.

DQ5 DS is also pretty neat, but I like DQ4 betterer.

I'm going to have to disagree on that.  DWQ was probably the best one of the NES games, because I just simply like tons of exploration and not much storyline, not to mention it was my first ever non-mon RPG.

DQ5, though, I find more enjoyable than DQ4, if only because I get to keep a consistent party throughout the game, because it really annoys me to have built up an awesome knight only to have to start over as a girl with a priest and a mage, and to power them up and suddenly have to do with a wimpy merchant, and power him up, and THEN have to play two weak twins.  And when you're done with them, it's finally the actual hero's turn.  Just urks me.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2009, 07:13:18 PM »
Go play TC2, that will make the difference evident.

In my opinion, the fact that Trauma Center 2 doesn't have Savato makes it auto-inferior. Truthfully, the only trouble I had with suturing was in the Kyriaki missions. In the Savato missions, the cuts seem much easier to close. I strongly suspect that the lower the rank of GUILT, the harder it is to sew JUST for the sake of balancing the game. (If Triti made you throw the DS, Terrible Person, then Paraskevi would make you snap it in half xD)

Oh yes, if you have a bit of a masochistic side, I meant to recommend that if there's a nother person in the car with a DS you mihgt want to get Metroid Prime: Hunters for the multiplayer feature. I wouldn't recommend playing the story though... it's about as empty as dead raising for the Wii.

OH! I have heard rumors (JUST rumors, mind you) that people have successfully ported EoSD to the DS but it's supposedly much hard with the screen break. Just speculation, though it may be worth looking into.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2009, 07:15:59 PM by Onozuka Nikuyokura »

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2009, 12:17:08 AM »
A lot of people suggested games that I was going to suggest, but eh. Whatevers. I'd suggest looking into Picross DS, though. It's freakishly addicting. Pretty much any of the Pokemon RPGs (the Mystery Dungeon series is crap) are safe bets too, if you like training little monsters and using them to fight other people. Are you planning on getting a DSi? There's some fun puzzle titles on there, though I don't think they justify buying a slightly more expensive DS that doesn't even have a GBA slot. =P

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« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2009, 12:37:28 AM »
(the Mystery Dungeon series is crap)

You better not be referring to Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer as well.  >:(

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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2009, 06:20:12 AM »
My apologies, I meant the Pokemon MD series. I never played Shiren. I heard it was good, though I tend to stray from dungeon crawlers because of their difficulty (and how the RNG LOVES to bite you in the ass without warning). I'm looking at you, I.V.A.N.

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« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2009, 02:43:51 PM »
The only thing that's really that hard about Shiren is that if you die, you lose all of your items that you didn't put in a warehouse. So yeah, that awesome sword you may have? Bye bye.  :'(

The rest of it boils down to how cautious and prepared you are.

Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2009, 12:57:47 AM »
I honestly cannot see what is so great about the Pokemon games. They're some of the easiest and most boring games I have ever played.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2009, 01:53:05 AM »
I honestly cannot see what is so great about the Pokemon games. They're some of the easiest and most boring games I have ever played.
Blame the fact you con create a team of superpowered creatures to pwn people in versus matches. That, I think, is the biggest draw.

Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2009, 12:46:55 AM »
It wasn't difficulty.  The game simply felt slow and a bit blocky, and I felt no particular compulsion to keep playing.  The music certainly wasn't helping; other than Beldr and Reset, they feel forgettable and have an air of...sullen despair is the best way I can think of phrasing it.  Not the kind of music that keeps you going...
Not sure why you say the game feels slow... Maybe you're just used to recent FE games and the fact they seem to trivialize gametime? =p I know skipping enemy turns in Shadow Dragon can be that way and I get angry when I don't realize someone died until the end of the mission because of abusing it.

Soundtrack does feel limited, I admit... It doesn't get good (or even really change) until the tail-end. I think it was done that way to make it feel more like you're trapped and forced to fight for your life each and every day, but honestly, I just ignored the music on my New Game+'s and experimented to see stuff like... how many people I could let die, and how many playable characters I could unlock a single playthrough. I always pay attention for the final boss area and battle themes though, as Garuda and Last Decision are awesome any day of the week (but I don't think I'll be beating the EX boss anytime soon... Honestly, I'm not even sure if the reward for winning is even worth it considering what I'll have to go through just to survive his first form*).

To be honest, I'm probably the only person that had these problems with Devil Survivor:
- Story only being entertaining for the first time you play, and it stops after a couple of days because
- the story is very shallow. I doubt things would go as smooth as they went in the game.
- Demon levels growing slower as their level go up and damage input stagnating, the consequence being us having to hire or fuse new ones. Problem: incredibly uninteresting higher demons.
- Battles are the huge obstacles of the game. I always finished a fight just to see what would happen next, not to prepare for another battle.*

That pretty much sums my grips with the game. Maybe it would've been better had it been a tactics game? Maybe they should have made the choices affect much more the game than just the last day... As far as I can see, someone who finishes Gin's path in the first playthrough (like me) already beat the game in the most beautiful way possible, so even going back to see the other endings you didn't choose feels awkward even after you get to see them.

*For all the people having trouble: use Recarm, Media, and try to go for dance moves or high damage input for only one foe. That's pretty much the general rule to never lose.

Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2009, 09:48:21 PM »
To be honest, I'm probably the only person that had these problems with Devil Survivor:
- Story only being entertaining for the first time you play, and it stops after a couple of days because
- the story is very shallow. I doubt things would go as smooth as they went in the game.
- Demon levels growing slower as their level go up and damage input stagnating, the consequence being us having to hire or fuse new ones. Problem: incredibly uninteresting higher demons.
- Battles are the huge obstacles of the game. I always finished a fight just to see what would happen next, not to prepare for another battle.*
Hm?
-After 3 days shit hits the fan and riots break out. That feels rather realistic to me, because supplies were short and people wre getting desperate. When people get desperate they start to fight more easily, which is also taken advantage of in numerous movies (after all, even in zombie apocolypse movies there's always at least one person killed by the other survivors, rather than the zombies).
-This is an issue with almost any -Mons game. Pokemon is about the only one where you can just use whatever you want, all others require upgrading as you go along in order to keep up (other SMT games and DWM games also tend to be that way, though even pokemon has monsters early on that lose steam if you keep using them until the end of the game...). You can compensate with -Tamas to an extent (they each add 3 to their respective stat), but once you use 3 it will begin to penalize you in other stats if you keep adding them so that you can't take a pixie and make it have 40 in all stats.
There's plenty of interesting high-level demons, but most of them require unlocking via multiple playthroughs (and Lucifer is highly arguable regarding whether or not he's worth the trouble...).
-....huh? How could you have a game without battles?

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That pretty much sums my grips with the game. Maybe it would've been better had it been a tactics game?
It is a tactics game, technically. o.0 It has RPG elements, but placement on the map is at least as important (if not moreso).

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Maybe they should have made the choices affect much more the game than just the last day... As far as I can see, someone who finishes Gin's path in the first playthrough (like me) already beat the game in the most beautiful way possible, so even going back to see the other endings you didn't choose feels awkward even after you get to see them.
Gin's path is bittersweet because once you complete it the lesson is lost. The government sweeps everything under the rug and nothing changes, which means more ordeals will come since people did not learn from the previous one. Neutral routes have always been comparatively better in SMT games, but here even Atsuro's route, argued to be the best one, has its drawbacks (in his ending Japan uses the demons to take over the world).

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*For all the people having trouble: use Recarm, Media, and try to go for dance moves or high damage input for only one foe. That's pretty much the general rule to never lose.
Media and Recarm lose their usefulness after a short while. However, Samirecarm and Mediarahan cost a lot of MP to cast in a game without items to restore MP with (or any items at all, for that matter). Also, while single-target works on bosses, some bosses have minions and random enemies late in the game tend to mix parties so that you have one minion weak to physical and one healed by physical, one weak to wind and another reflects it. Dances hit randomly (as do the better physical attacks like Deathbound), so your best bet is probably to just Megido/loan them.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2009, 09:53:05 PM by AlexX »

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2009, 07:21:08 AM »
Blame the fact you con create a team of superpowered creatures to pwn people in versus matches. That, I think, is the biggest draw.

I honestly cannot see what is so great about the Pokemon games. They're some of the easiest and most boring games I have ever played.

Do you both not know what Competitive Pokemon is? There is an entire division dedicated to "uber Pokemon."

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2009, 01:01:16 PM »
I honestly cannot see what is so great about the Pokemon games. They're some of the easiest and most boring games I have ever played.

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« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2009, 08:48:46 PM »
Do you both not know what Competitive Pokemon is? There is an entire division dedicated to "uber Pokemon."
Well, if you wanna get even more specific there's multiple tiers of competative play (uber tier, overused tier, never used tier, etc.), and what pokemon you can use is based on the teir you're playing in. Things get even more interesting if you wanna try 2-on-2 fights, too.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2009, 11:37:15 AM »
Yeah... Pokemon can be really complex when you get into PVP. I mean really.. there are so many Pokemon and moves available, of course it gets complex fast.

Would I be killed if I said I actually liked the Mystery Dungeon spinoffs? They're a totally different experience from regular Pokemon games of course, but that's a given. I found it strangely addictive and I actually baww'd at the story a bit, believe it or not. It was cute :<

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2009, 02:23:55 AM »
(If Triti made you throw the DS, Terrible Person, then Paraskevi would make you snap it in half xD)
That was actually where I stopped playing, said "This is bloody STUPID" and that was that.

(though I've played FE5 (Thracia 776) before, so I don't think I have any right to complain about weird RNG actions... I think you know what I mean, but I can't remember if you said you played it before and I haven't been at FESS's archives in forever to check).
It is you!  How ya been, Neofox?  We've now got what, three FESSers here?  And you couldn't possibly be referring to fun stuff like the 99%/1% garbage, or the fact that clerics missed, or...yeah, I think I know.

Also:  On a friend's CycloDS, I played Soma Bringer with the translation patch, at his urging.  Awesome game, people.  It's Diablo 2 in handheld format, but with a plot and character development and a freakin' awesome soundtrack by Yasunori Mitsuda.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2009, 05:12:44 AM »
That was actually where I stopped playing, said "This is bloody STUPID" and that was that.

Wait until X1: Kyriaki. I finished that one at 00:00:03 left and I am never playing it again. It is the only one I'll never, ever S-Rank because finishing it with three tenths of a second was just so cool that I don't want to change it.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2009, 07:34:43 AM »
Wait until X1: Kyriaki. I finished that one at 00:00:03 left and I am never playing it again. It is the only one I'll never, ever S-Rank because finishing it with three tenths of a second was just so cool that I don't want to change it.
X3: Triti is when I threw the towel. I felt like the game was laughing at me.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2009, 04:40:10 PM »
Do you both not know what Competitive Pokemon is? There is an entire division dedicated to "uber Pokemon."
Of course I know, I just never got into it yet. Let's not turn this intro a flame war, now!
Would I be killed if I said I actually liked the Mystery Dungeon spinoffs? They're a totally different experience from regular Pokemon games of course, but that's a given. I found it strangely addictive and I actually baww'd at the story a bit, believe it or not. It was cute :<
I played and beat PMD1, it's all right, but there's so much that can go wrong it feels like a dumbed-down version of Nethack. It's more or less the reason I never want back to PMD1 for a long time, and the reason why I never picked up PMD2 (any of its versions). I never played the other games in the Mystery dungeon series, though I heard Shiren the Wanderer was great.

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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2009, 10:53:52 PM »
I played and beat PMD1, it's all right, but there's so much that can go wrong it feels like a dumbed-down version of Nethack.
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Re: Recommend me some DS games!
« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2009, 10:58:10 PM »
Dude...

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