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commandercool:
I mostly agree with you, but if there's going to be "legacy support" for older generations, which there doesn't have to be but it might be fun given how well Gen 7 turned out, I think Gamefreak painted themselves into a bit of a corner. The next logical step would be to do a bunch of support of Gen 2, but Gen 2 is really bland and inflexible compared to most of the others. I know it has its supporters, but it's not popular overall and just doesn't provide them a ton of interesting tools to work with.
So I think there's a few ways they could go with that if they wanted to do "Galarian forms" or something. They could double down on interesting high-quality designs and try to make Gen 2 look good retroactively with brute force, or they could skip it and focus on Kalos Pokemon given the geographic connection. Or they could spread the support around and not necessarily focus on one region. And of course there's always the option to just not do any throwbacks, but I don't know, I think regional forms is a fun idea with a ton of potential. Maybe just doing a few and not making it a big focus would be best, but I'd like to see some.
This is kind of an issue Pokemon Go ran into as well in my opinion. Adding new Pokemon chronologically means they have to slog through the relatively weak second, third, and fourth waves to get to the point where I would say Pokemon starts to get consistently good again in Unova and onward. That's definitely a matter of taste and I'm sure there are plenty of people who would disagree with that assessment which is fair enough, but that's the way I see it.
Raikaria:
Every gen has it's stinkers and it's winners.
And Gen 4 remakes would be up next chronologically. Although dear god can we have a Platinum remake instead of D/P? Or at least have the Platinum regional dex?
I'm not counting on regional formes. Megas were dropped after Gen 6. Regionals didn't even continue into US/UM. [Likewise don't expect Z-Moves as anything but a postgame thing; although the core of Z-moves isn't something that would need an update anyway]
Mеа:
--- Quote from: commandercool on March 02, 2019, 01:58:09 PM ---The next logical step would be to do a bunch of support of Gen 2, but Gen 2 is really bland and inflexible compared to most of the others. I know it has its supporters, but it's not popular overall and just doesn't provide them a ton of interesting tools to work with.
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Really? I feel like I see Gen 2 for the most often lauded as best gen. Wish I could rate it on my own terms, it's the only generation that I haven't beat. Couldn't beat E4 when I was a kid, so I didn't even know the Kanto side was a thing and I bought Heart Gold used way after release and haven't touched it.
As much as I think gen 5 was one of the best in the series, even I thought it had some of the most weird designs across the entirety of its lineup (then again it does have some of my favorites...). They must have used some different design philosophy for it.
Raikaria:
--- Quote from: Mеа on March 02, 2019, 07:14:12 PM ---Really? I feel like I see Gen 2 for the most often lauded as best gen. Wish I could rate it on my own terms, it's the only generation that I haven't beat. Couldn't beat E4 when I was a kid, so I didn't even know the Kanto side was a thing and I bought Heart Gold used way after release and haven't touched it.
As much as I think gen 5 was one of the best in the series, even I thought it had some of the most weird designs across the entirety of its lineup (then again it does have some of my favorites...). They must have used some different design philosophy for it.
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Thing is... Gen 2 was... well... shafted.
It has one of the smaller rosters at 100 pokemon, and quite of lot of them are connected to Kanto lines in the first place and are semi-pointless Baby pokemon. Cool for lore; pointless gameplay addittions. We know a lot of pokemon were outright canceled despite being far enough to make it to a public demo.
Jhoto as a region is... well a backwater. It dosen't have it's own Team, it's own Leauge, it's landscape is wholly uninteresting and there's not really much *there*. Not to mention the level curve.
Most of this is due to the GB limitations and Kanto being included. Which is also probobly why such a feature won't happen again. Jhoto as a region really suffered for it however. I'd easily call Jhoto my least favorite region, although I'd also say the Jhoto dex isn't bad.
commandercool:
--- Quote from: Mеа on March 02, 2019, 07:14:12 PM ---Really? I feel like I see Gen 2 for the most often lauded as best gen. Wish I could rate it on my own terms, it's the only generation that I haven't beat. Couldn't beat E4 when I was a kid, so I didn't even know the Kanto side was a thing and I bought Heart Gold used way after release and haven't touched it.
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I've seen a lot of people call the Gen 2 games the best games, which is arguably true if we're talking about the wonderful remakes. But calling the set of Pokemon that goes with them the best is uncommon, or at least I think it is.
My understanding of Gen 2 is that it was made in a hurry out of Gen 1 castoffs in large part, which left it feeling pretty underwhelming in my opinion. It's small, there's a ton of chaff (the babies are pretty weak, especially compared to the much more interesting unused baby designs that got leaked, give me Meowsy!). I'm honestly not sure what my favorite Gen 2 Pokemon even is, but whatever it is I don't think it would even be in my top 50 favorites. Maybe not even my top 100.
--- Quote from: Mеа on March 02, 2019, 07:14:12 PM ---As much as I think gen 5 was one of the best in the series, even I thought it had some of the most weird designs across the entirety of its lineup (then again it does have some of my favorites...). They must have used some different design philosophy for it.
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I like weird. I love the Pokemon based on inanimate objects. They're weird but very bold and that's great. Give me more Klinks, Trubbishes, Vanilishes, and Yamasks! But yeah, the design philosophy for Gen 5 definitely feels a little different. I wonder if maybe they tried to go for "American designs" somehow. If there's a design document out there somewhere then I'd like to see it.