Author Topic: Fire Emblem Heroes: Like Fire Emblem But It's Chibi And It Lives In Your Phone (Read 115259 times)

Conqueror · « **Reply #120 on:** February 06, 2017, 08:23:24 AM »

Quote from: BT on February 06, 2017, 05:37:57 AM

And is anyone else getting 'Greet' constantly greyed out? Does that ever refresh or are you resigned to greet people for the rest of your life?

I think when you poke your friend's envoy who comes to greet you then you automatically greet them back, which is why you get 5x feathers twice (it couldn't be a number like 100, or something that actually matters compared to the bare minimum you'll be pulling from arena? Nintendo, pls).

Buggy · « **Reply #121 on:** February 06, 2017, 09:21:23 AM »

I seriously wish that there will be feathers farming map in future because I really unlock 5 stars every unit but feather cost are really high and there are few method to gain many feathers right now ...

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #122 on:** February 06, 2017, 10:25:09 AM »

Quote from: The Greatest Dog on February 06, 2017, 04:30:16 AM

It might not be super practical, but Subaki flying around with 30 defense (at level 21?), Catria having +4 defense when initiating attacks AND debuffed attack by -5 after combat is pretty silly. Florina is bad though and should feel bad if not for having the Resistance that Subaki doesn't.

Also, arrows.

Unsure if you've played an FE before, but PegKnights typically have very good RES, so that's usually something to expect.

edit:

haha yess the game forces everyone to use her

nooooooooooooo0000000000000000

commandercool · « **Reply #123 on:** February 06, 2017, 12:30:48 PM »

Quote from: BT on February 06, 2017, 06:59:59 AM

OK wait wait wait wait. What ranks? All I see is 'Unranked', and that doesn't seem to have to do with defense score anyway. Which I don't have, I guess?

I'm going off of the "arena rewards" tab, which admittedly might not exactly correlate to rank. Right now I'm receiving the maximum reward for this season, at any rate. It's my assumption that that will correspond to rank in the next season (which might keep the meaner whale teams away from less experienced or invested players, which is nice). But maybe it won't, I don't know.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #124 on:** February 06, 2017, 01:35:02 PM »

just nailed out 3200~ points in arena my friend is at 3100~ and hes getting 1500 from ranking so i hope to stay around there when it ends

final fight had takumi on both beg and int so decided fuck it and went adv. it payed off pretty well since i got that map with the mountain in the middle which is a ez win for me

Mеа · « **Reply #125 on:** February 06, 2017, 01:38:52 PM »

is na actually kept up to date with jp here? the orb special dungeons are already up nice.
I'm glad that they're handing out free orbs, but in the end that really pushes emphasis on rolling for good units and not, you know, actually developing your units?? Without any feathers, I'm stuck at this weird impasse where all my non-five stars are at lvl 20 but I don't want to use them anymore because devoting stamina and exp on this is ultimately pointless, meaning I'm back to grinding out my five stars again. Really killing progress and diversity here.

commandercool · « **Reply #126 on:** February 06, 2017, 01:45:23 PM »

In looking more closely at the arena, ranking actually works completely differently than I thought. Offense and defense don't get added up, they're separate and scored separately. Which seems a bit odd since you can't really control how many defenses you get or against who.

The downside to this is that my rank is lower than I thought (although I am getting the second highest tier possible for offense) but we get way more feathers than I thought since they're scored and awarded for three different categories.

Edit: Hmm, there's a fair but slightly unintuitive mechanic in the arena where your chain bonus resets after you reach seven wins. I just got a win on the hardest arena difficulty that raised my base score considerably, but I'd need to get back up to seven wins again for it to actually count. Could spend crests, but... Eh. I'll wait.

Camilla is a great Takumi-slayer if you can get him caught on terrain, bait him out, or get the jump on him with Dance or Smite. Killing Takumi, getting Savage Bliw damage on everyone, and most likely getting one more hit in before she dies is totally worth kamikaze-ing Camilla.

Edit edit: Who all gets Smite, anyway? I've only seen it on Bartre so far, but if he's the only one who gets it then I think it's more than enough to make him meta. It has some significant upsides over Dance (and some downsides too, but at any rate it's a viable alternative).

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #127 on:** February 06, 2017, 01:58:39 PM »

yay my scrubby "don't get everyone to 40" strats prevail

commandercool · « **Reply #128 on:** February 06, 2017, 02:06:15 PM »

Gross. :v

I mean, congratulations, but I sure hope they patch that out. That's abusive as hell. And presumably gets worse if you minmax it harder.

I wonder now if that's why I kept seeing Olivias and Tharjas and shit that were just wrecking my teams solo on day 1-2. Must be, right?

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #129 on:** February 06, 2017, 02:10:24 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 06, 2017, 02:06:15 PM

Gross. :v

I mean, congratulations, but I sure hope they patch that out. That's abusive as hell. And presumably gets worse if you minmax it harder.

I wonder now if that's why I kept seeing Olivias and Tharjas and shit that were just wrecking my teams solo on day 1-2. Must be, right?

the thing is the ai is dumb and won't use them in the best way all the time

also if you think this is gross, try running into 4tak teams and tell me that's not worse

commandercool · « **Reply #130 on:** February 06, 2017, 02:17:57 PM »

I refuse to tell you that's not worse! But something doesn't have to be the worst to be bad.

I would also like to see stacking the same character nerfed. Either by just making it so characters are unique or by giving a point penalty. I know that might discourage whales a bit since it would make duplicates less desirable and we must never discourage whales, but it would make the game better.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #131 on:** February 06, 2017, 02:24:01 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 06, 2017, 02:17:57 PM

I refuse to tell you that's not worse! But something doesn't have to be the worst to be bad.

I would also like to see stacking the same character nerfed. Either by just making it so characters are unique or by giving a point penalty. I know that might discourage whales a bit since it would make duplicates less desirable and we must never discourage whales, but it would make the game better.

Well, until something changes, this is the most non-iap, effective way to defeat the 4tak or 4hector teams, and I will keep doing it until they fix up their game.

In a way, this too is, master-level tactics.

commandercool · « **Reply #132 on:** February 06, 2017, 02:33:03 PM »

I have yet to see the four Takumis team, but I thiiink I can beat it if I get the right map. And it also depends on how the AI prioritizes targets. So that's a lot of ifs, but I'd be interested to give it a shot at some point.

Whether I can beat four Hectors is down to if I can trick them into hitting Lyn to below 50% without killing her and, again, AI targeting. A lot of my strategies seem to end up relying on assuming the AI will punch Serra even when it's not a good idea and it keeps paying off.

BT · « **Reply #133 on:** February 06, 2017, 03:50:38 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 06, 2017, 01:45:23 PM

Edit edit: Who all gets Smite, anyway? I've only seen it on Bartre so far, but if he's the only one who gets it then I think it's more than enough to make him meta. It has some significant upsides over Dance (and some downsides too, but at any rate it's a viable alternative).

Effie!!!

Too bad she's an armorknight and most of the time I want to move her not smite someone

Anyway that screenshot cleared some things up for me. I got no defense data, does that mean nobody fought me or some bug? Or maybe it's because I had a crappy team on the left by accident most of the time :x

commandercool · « **Reply #134 on:** February 06, 2017, 04:01:06 PM »

Yeah, Smite probably isn't idea on someone who's super slow, but you could probably make good use of it with Effie with a little extra setup. And lances seem like the best weapon right now since I see a heavy skew toward swords in PVP, so that's an upside over Bartre.

What determines which team you use for arena defense, anyway? Is it just most recent team used or can you set it?

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #135 on:** February 06, 2017, 04:04:01 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 06, 2017, 04:01:06 PM

Yeah, Smite probably isn't idea on someone who's super slow, but you could probably make good use of it with Effie with a little extra setup. And lances seem like the best weapon right now since I see a heavy skew toward swords in PVP, so that's an upside over Bartre.

What determines which team you use for arena defense, anyway? Is it just most recent team used or can you set it?

first team

I like draw back more than shove/smite

commandercool · « **Reply #136 on:** February 06, 2017, 04:51:19 PM »

Draw Back is WAY better than I thought it was because the attacker still retreats even if they kill the target. It's extremely good. Although it's a different kind of skill than Smite. Smite is for guaranteeing you can get the first strike on an enemy that outranges you, which Draw Back does nothing to help. Although the two might work well together.

Smite also has the weird ability to throw units over mountains which comes up very occasionally too. You might be able to do that with Draw Back if it moves you backward onto a mountain, but I have no idea if that works and the positioning would be incredibly specific.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #137 on:** February 06, 2017, 04:52:49 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 06, 2017, 04:51:19 PM

Draw Back is WAY better than I thought it was because the attacker still retreats even if they kill the target. It's extremely good. Although it's a different kind of skill than Smite. Smite is for guaranteeing you can get the first strike on an enemy that outranges you, which Draw Back does nothing to help. Although the two might work well together.

Smite also has the weird ability to throw units over mountains which comes up very occasionally too. You might be able to do that with Draw Back if it moves you backward onto a mountain, but I have no idea if that works and the positioning would be incredibly specific.

I've used Fae to draw someone "back" closer into enemy range, it just depends on where the drawer is positioned.

Hikarin · « **Reply #138 on:** February 06, 2017, 06:32:39 PM »

I haven't had my team chosen to be attacked, ever...
Thus my defense score is 0.

However, I did just roll another 5:

Am I cool now?

PX · « **Reply #139 on:** February 06, 2017, 08:39:42 PM »

AI seems to prioritize whatever they do the most damage to and not the 3 hp Lyn right in front of them

commandercool · « **Reply #140 on:** February 06, 2017, 08:50:57 PM »

Yeah, that's a huge invisible buff to Lyn. AI will ignore her to beat up healers and just let her go ape. It also prioritizes Takumi as though he can't counter even though he can (and presumably Hector as well). Definitely makes healers better than they seem, since they're great decoys.

BT · « **Reply #141 on:** February 06, 2017, 09:20:24 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 06, 2017, 08:50:57 PM

Yeah, that's a huge invisible buff to Lyn. AI will ignore her to beat up healers and just let her go ape. It also prioritizes Takumi as though he can't counter even though he can (and presumably Hector as well). Definitely makes healers better than they seem, since they're great decoys.

Well screw healers because I just got phwocked by a dude with a team of high 20s and a level 1 healer. Really, what's the deal with that? I guess it's a unit dedicated for the defense arenas or else it would've leveled up already. :V

My strategy was to use a group of Lv16-20 units and a Lv31 Effie. Four star Marth, Gunter and Effie with 3* Lissa, to be exact, and all of them (including Lissa) can hit really hard and actually put in some work. Especially Gunter. What the christ.

Effie though, Effie is so goddamned good, and destroys Marth, Lucina, Roy and Lyn, and also some of the magic users. The combination of amazing attack, good defense, passable resistance, death blow and wary fighter is just crazy. Too bad the dude with the Lv1 healer also had a Lv29 Camilla which BARELY killed me with some proc + brave axe.

So my offense score is sitting at 2055. And I'm still unranked. Kinda amazing if there are 100,000 players with more score. This game blew up.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #142 on:** February 06, 2017, 09:26:21 PM »

Quote from: BT on February 06, 2017, 09:20:24 PM

Well screw healers because I just got phwocked by a dude with a team of high 20s and a level 1 healer. Really, what's the deal with that? I guess it's a unit dedicated for the defense arenas or else it would've leveled up already. :V

My strategy was to use a group of Lv16-20 units and a Lv31 Effie. Four star Marth, Gunter and Effie with 3* Lissa, to be exact, and all of them (including Lissa) can hit really hard and actually put in some work. Especially Gunter. What the christ.

Effie though, Effie is so goddamned good, and destroys Marth, Lucina, Roy and Lyn, and also some of the magic users. The combination of amazing attack, good defense, passable resistance, death blow and wary fighter is just crazy. Too bad the dude with the Lv1 healer also had a Lv29 Camilla which BARELY killed me with some proc + brave axe.

So my offense score is sitting at 2055. And I'm still unranked. Kinda amazing if there are 100,000 players with more score. This game blew up.

I think I had like 2500 and I was unranked, but then a few hundred points up from that I shot up to like 80k or something, so yes, there are just that many people, especially since the server is global.

commandercool · « **Reply #143 on:** February 06, 2017, 09:31:25 PM »

I'm at 61k-ish with ~2700 points. Which doesn't shock me since my team isn't super minmaxed.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #144 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:24:36 AM »

go get your feathers guys

aUsernameIsFineToo · « **Reply #145 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:35:37 AM »

414-805-9868 here. Didn't reroll much and I already got a decent starting team.

MewMewHeart · « **Reply #146 on:** February 07, 2017, 03:07:50 AM »

Happy with my Azura 5 star pull while training my other units for more chapter maps...

Buggy · « **Reply #147 on:** February 07, 2017, 06:23:31 AM »

https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_JP/status/828800637060030465

seems Nintendo give us 10,000 feathers for retweet campaign!!

BT · « **Reply #148 on:** February 07, 2017, 07:24:12 AM »

I have five Lissas now

PX · « **Reply #149 on:** February 07, 2017, 08:14:22 AM »

Quote from: BT on February 07, 2017, 07:24:12 AM

I have five Lissas now

Immortality!

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O-oh...