Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition

[Jq1790]

Well you wouldn't need to worry about SBR anyway...>_>. (poor Navi)

[Zengar Zombolt]

Okay kiddos Padx is reporting that tomorrow will be sunny with 100 probability of heradra guerilla. Anyonee have a revo hades to go at it?

[The Greatest Dog]

Oh, is Hades actually a good matchup against her? I've got one.

[commandercool]

I have so many Evangelions to skill up! I can't stop for anything! Except maybe my box filling up because there's no skillup event going on and I only have so many King Tans...

[Zengar Zombolt]

Oh, is Hades actually a good matchup against her? I've got one.

It's not hard to get 100% resist and heradra doesn't change color, only tool needed is the right subs to actually deal with Verche and Ceres (notably, verche starts by binding your darks for 10 turns)

[commandercool]

Alright, I admit it. As much as I've made fun of Myrei and as superfluous as I still think she is, she's really fucking fun to play.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

All right, I think I may have HeraDra more or less figured out? At least, I've probably got her beat if I can get to her...

Revo Hades/Revo Ceres w/Awoken Sakuya (gravity works, right?)/Awoken Pandora/Awoken Tsukuyomi/Yomi Dragon, with bindproof badge

If I understand it right, the 10 turn bind should only hit Pandora and Tsukuyomi, leaving the rest unbound, but just in case, Ceres active + heart row should clear the last 9... right?

Awoken Tsukuyomi can help push past Ceres' stupid combo drain.

Hera Dragon's strongest attack will only do a mere 20597 damage to me, which I can tank... but getting health up may be a pain. I'm considering dropping Ceres for Halloween Thoth and Sopdet with their 4 dark resist awakes... but that might make the rest of the dungeon rougher. What do you think?

[Zengar Zombolt]

Actually with just about any decent dark lead you should be able to damage most things neatly. Although with only one revo hades you'd also have to take care of not tripping ceres' resolve hit. I mean I am totally fine with stoning through the bind so I just built to trigger the resolve hit and survive it so :v

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Well I mean, I'd be running Revo Hades as the friend lead too-- or would the -500% grav kill me through 94% resist?

I'm not really opposed to stoning this (though it'd be awesome as hell to no-stone it or even be able to farm it), but I'm trying to find the most manageable way to do it.

[OverlordChirei]

Well I mean, I'd be running Revo Hades as the friend lead too-- or would the -500% grav kill me through 94% resist?

81% resist is enough to survive, so no.

[Zengar Zombolt]

Only took the one stone needed to get past the binds. o/

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Tweaked the team a little, inspired by a video I saw:


Revo Hades/ DMeta+Awoken Amaterasu inherit / Awoken Archdemon Lucifer / Super Ult Pandora / Yomi Dragon / Revo Hades, skill boost badge

Total skill boost = 12, 13 with badge. Allows DMeta to instantly use Amaterasu's full bind clear, and then everyone else should be charged up and I can burst down Verche from there.  Ceres scares the hell out of me, because I dunno if I can efficiently hit 7 combo. I'm not super scared of her grav, of course, but it's still worrisome. Once I'm past her though, Hera Dragon should be cheese city.

EDIT: Neeeever mind. I didn't remember that Gravity World gives you 5 turns of +5 seconds matching time. That's better.

[Zengar Zombolt]

Yeah, Ceres' first half is scary as all hell. Once you get her in the black it's literally free and you can just stall her 500k absorb out if you feel.
Also one thing I didn't properly notice is that once Heradra begins her rage hit phase (the 300k ones) she has a turn in between so you can heal if you can. I thought I'd be doomed due to lowered healing but it worked out like that.

[Jq1790]

Matsy, I saw the comment about gravity earlier and didn't notice anyone correct you on it so be warned:  If it would deal 2m or more damage, Sakuya's gravity WILL BE ABSORBED by HeraDra.  Gravities are subject to damage absorbs just like every other single source of damage.

I realize this is very late and probably too much so but I'm just now getting on here for today so I wanted to make the note on the off chance you had a late slot.

Speaking of her dungeon, I tried just for fun since I hadn't been playing PAD too much recently(blame GBF and Crash Fever lately) and after 30someodd turns on Ceres I skyfell into a 9 combo that caused her to give me the stinkeye and I imploded.  (tried with a RCeres team just because it's the closest I owned to a good thing to fight her with.)

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I'm pondering whether I should drop Pandora for Halloween Thoth and Sopdet-- their awakenings should really bolster that dark resist (I can't remember, are awakenings additive or multiplicative when combined with LS resists?) to really make sure I can not die against Hera Dragon. Though, I'd be taking a hit in the damage department... ugh, I dunno.

Matsy, I saw the comment about gravity earlier and didn't notice anyone correct you on it so be warned:  If it would deal 2m or more damage, Sakuya's gravity WILL BE ABSORBED by HeraDra.  Gravities are subject to damage absorbs just like every other single source of damage.

I realize this is very late and probably too much so but I'm just now getting on here for today so I wanted to make the note on the off chance you had a late slot.

Speaking of her dungeon, I tried just for fun since I hadn't been playing PAD too much recently(blame GBF and Crash Fever lately) and after 30someodd turns on Ceres I skyfell into a 9 combo that caused her to give me the stinkeye and I imploded.  (tried with a RCeres team just because it's the closest I owned to a good thing to fight her with.)

Yeah, noted. Makes me feel super comfortable blowing the actives on Verche instead.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Nailed it. Had to use one stone on Verche because I mistakenly thought Amaterasu's skill clears all binds. The Awoken form does not. (I actually used a couple stones refreshing stamina until I realized there was really no way around stoning Verche). But after that, bursting him down is easy.

Ceres: As long as you have the time extend, you can beat her down to nothing. In fact, it's the best thing to do, because she literally can not kill you.

Hera Dragon: Just don't overextend and keep a heartmaker handy for in between those final hits and she's a joke.

HOWEVER: I decided to try it again just to have a second one. Stoned on Verche, and moved on to Ceres. I did not fully burst her down to nothing-- she had about 10% left. She then puts up a 500k damage drain. I'm still trying to kill her.

[commandercool]

So Myrei's active is as nightmarishly terrible as I assumed it would be and pretty much never comes up. Does anyone who plays Myr have any suggestions as to what I can inherit over it to get some value? Unfortunately I don't have that heroine card who makes the heart column. Is there anything that generates two hearts at random? That would be a lot more useful.

[O4rfish]

Maybe Sumire?  Your padherder doesn't have too many monsters in it.

[commandercool]

Oh yeah, my Padherder is probably well over a year out of date. I should fix that.

Sumine randomly fucks up six of my orbs instead of seven, which makes keeping my colors intact a bit more likely, but honestly not much. And the blue isn't the most useful ever although it would fuel Orochi,

[Zengar Zombolt]

Maybe you'd do better looking at reimiru through the lens of a Ronove team. Because it's kind of the same deal.

[commandercool]

I'm not that familiar with Ronove, so I wouldn't know how to go about doing that.

[Jq1790]

So Myrei's active is as nightmarishly terrible as I assumed it would be and pretty much never comes up. Does anyone who plays Myr have any suggestions as to what I can inherit over it to get some value? Unfortunately I don't have that heroine card who makes the heart column. Is there anything that generates two hearts at random? That would be a lot more useful.

I see mention of Ronove teams above, but if you have the guitar demon himself, he creates exactly two heart orbs and clears trash orbs for you too(jammers/poison->wood, 2 random hearts).  Still suffers the risk of accidentally deleting something important but at least it's minimized and has a beneficial aftereffect.

Oh right and he's stupid fast, too, like 3 turns at max.

As for running MyRei like Ronove, I don't think it works QUITE the same if you're after max multiplier because she wants all five atts whereas Ronove maxes out with just four.  Any orb changes WILL run the risk of killing your full rainbow activation unless you have enough of all orb types AND the five hearts to form the cross with.

The general idea for Ronove IIRC is something like Kaede/Kaede/Rozuel(or other R/B coverage)/RagDra(or Linthia if you lack the former), so I guess the equivalent would be Paimon/Paimon/(DKali-type board change)/other color coverage possibly?  Obv not expecting you to hve one much less two of Paimon, but it's a start at least...?

[commandercool]

Ha ha nope, I have none of that. No Paimon, no Ronove.

Maybe I should be structuring my actives around making my 81x activations hit as hard as possible since I at least have some control over those. My team has 15 natural time extends right now, so maybe getting a Sheen active in there would be good. And maaaaybe it'll actually be worth running a white heardbreaker for use before a Myrei active? I still think that's too likely to make it so I won't even have four attributes left, but it'd probably be pretty great if it worked.

[Jq1790]

If you aim specifically for the 81x hits then I think you can probably make lots of things work.  Single orb changers would probably be the best bet besides stuff to set your board partially or entirely to an activateable state, at least that's my guess. 

[commandercool]

Myrei problems.

-Five colors and three hearts on board. Myrei active. Turns into three colors and ten hearts.

-Okay, let's try again. BKali active. Five colors and three hearts on board. Myrei active. Turns into three colors and ten hearts.

FUCK.

[Mеа]

yeah. that.
gotta love how they made no attempt to make her active make any sense. Like, if I needed a panic shield I'd bring one.
switched out ayomi for librarian kali because I realized I really needed a board changer and color supplier. Now what this team would really like is a haster of some kind, probably will replace the second mel. Does heart orb enhances work like orb enhances when you have more than 5 on your team? Because if not, then having more than one on a team is preeetty worthless.

e: mmm, the shinra bansho buffs means asmodius another will be more useable. If only it also generated light orbs, she would be cooler for myeir, but the (usually, I would hope) guaranteed x81 active along with the 7 combo awakening could potentially guaranteed her a spot somewhere. Maybe in librarian kali's place, or perhaps the second mel.

[Zengar Zombolt]

Dreams do come true

[The Greatest Dog]

Dreams do come true

Sup.

I max skilled a Nordis before I got the Super Metal Kings I needed from him yesterday to evolve all the Heras and Zeus...

[Zengar Zombolt]

Ahaha, I had a zera ready to go for a good while. In fact not counting DQ they were the first part of the team that was ready to go. I think what took me the longest was to gather the 22 keepers of gold needed for Mech Hera's mats.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Meridionalis is stupid

this isn't even full potential

i could be using a muse inherit lol