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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #900 on: March 03, 2017, 05:19:27 PM »
But where is Hello Kitty? :C

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #901 on: March 03, 2017, 11:53:09 PM »
But where is Hello Kitty? :C
I think the collab itself got retired, but the buffs will come later on; the EVA stuff IIRC came before the massive collab buff wave?
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #902 on: March 04, 2017, 03:13:44 AM »
"Wow, Mechzeus looks way easier than Mechhera. Why didn't I do this one first? This'll be a cake walk."

-Missed that there were no hearts

Oh... That's why.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #903 on: March 04, 2017, 06:03:39 AM »
Only needed one heart maker if you can manage to one shot each floor. I can't clear mech Hera because I have a skill issue with damage absorbs

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #904 on: March 04, 2017, 07:09:40 AM »
Yeah, I'll have to take a look at my options. Don't really think I can handle the multiple skill delays while also consistently one-shotting everything and having shields up at the right time, but then again maybe I can. Seems like a great place for Sacchis if I can get my skills set up right.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #905 on: March 04, 2017, 01:09:08 PM »
I had yshtola for the healing after both floor 2 and 3. After that it was all just me one shotting everything with rukia. Double scheat and facet buff nailed machine zues hard.

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #906 on: March 04, 2017, 05:06:34 PM »
Yeah, I think Sacchis has this. Forgot to actually include an important inherit and even then I almost made it. Might just have to shuffle my subs a bit for consistency, but this seems super doable.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #907 on: March 05, 2017, 03:59:33 PM »
Okay, so I figured out a composition where I can consistently get to MZeus, but he's way, way harder to kill than I expected due to all the stacking preempts. The locked orb skyfalls make orbchanges basically useless so you just have to randomly have a perfect board, and the jammer skyfall cancels out the no-RCV part of the dungeon and makes dealing with his combo shield extremely difficult again.

This just seems like a complete RNG-fest at this point. Am I missing something? I don't have an inheritable board flush or it would probably be manageable.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #908 on: March 05, 2017, 05:03:26 PM »
This just seems like a complete RNG-fest at this point. Am I missing something? I don't have an inheritable board flush or it would probably be manageable.

Here's the GH solution

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #909 on: March 05, 2017, 05:30:42 PM »
A chase that's JP-only right now? How useful.

How do people do it here though? They obviously do, am I missing something?
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #910 on: March 05, 2017, 05:44:04 PM »
A chase that's JP-only right now? How useful.

How do people do it here though? They obviously do, am I missing something?

Force on Diadem and pray

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #911 on: March 05, 2017, 06:17:39 PM »
Yeah, I've been using Gungnir on Diadem to just clear the bind after the first attack, but I'm realizing I have more than enough time to stall up another delay. That should buy me a little more time. Definitely still going to be an RNG shitfest, just with incredibly marginally more favorable RNG...
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #912 on: March 05, 2017, 07:40:25 PM »
Try Khepri?
Or inherit a board flush since orb unlocks aren't in NA yet

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #913 on: March 05, 2017, 08:50:06 PM »
I don't have am inheritable board flush unfortunately. I do have Kundali, but unfortunately combo count just really isn't the biggest problem. I can't even fully activate Sacchis because the board is so fucked.

I'll give it a shot with a second Force just to buy more time. Maybe some more actives will help.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #914 on: March 06, 2017, 08:37:51 AM »


Not a bad haul!

I honestly didn't expect to get that chase Kaworu, but I am actually pretty fucking disappointed that I opened a chase and it was the abysmally terrible Rei one. Because now the ONLY Eva card I don't own is the one I really wanted (unless I'm overlooking someone).

Hmm... Am I really dumb enough to waste even more pulls on this before it ends though?
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #915 on: March 06, 2017, 08:57:15 AM »

Not bad at all! I already sold 2 trash ones so you don't see those. Don't really know what to do with them yet. I probably have some components for a sick water team with the yshtola I pulled in the ff rem in my box somewhere.
I guess I'll develop reimyr and see just how janky she is.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #916 on: March 06, 2017, 09:01:00 AM »


Who are you?
Seems legit.

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #917 on: March 06, 2017, 09:06:41 AM »

Not bad at all! I already sold 2 trash ones so you don't see those. Don't really know what to do with them yet. I probably have some components for a sick water team with the yshtola I pulled in the ff rem in my box somewhere.
I guess I'll develop reimyr and see just how janky she is.

I'm assuming you deleted some chaff first, or did you get the most legendarily consistently good pulls ever?

Well, I got somebody to team my ReiMyr with I guess. Because even though I think she's one of the most pointless cards of all time she does at least technically have potential, and why not with something that janktastic? What kind of subs does she even want at this point? Seems like she gets along well with that blue heroine card who makes the heart column (who I don't own) and Awoken Yomi, and those two fill out all of her color requirements. Beyond that... Orochi, black Kali effects, and uh... Wee Jas maybe?



Who are you?
Seems legit.

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Was wondering how many people were going to pull him in their free pull after I failed to get him with 24 pulls. One and counting. :derp:

(As for who he is, he's Shinjji's boyfriend.)
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #918 on: March 06, 2017, 10:05:34 AM »
I'm assuming you deleted some chaff first, or did you get the most legendarily consistently good pulls ever?
Had like 2 or 3 of those old ones but yeah pretty good haul.

I can't even start using myrei yet because I'm despairing over how awful trying to figure out subs for her is. If I had some kind of decent water/dark haster I'd use that, but I don't so awoken yomi will have to fill the dark/green slot for now. I say water since it's the only color I have that has some decent collection of heart makers that don't take out like 2 colors. Team for now will have to look something like reimry ayomi mel mel navi friend. Honestly it'd probably be more worth it to pair up with a summyr by this point.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #919 on: March 06, 2017, 10:17:32 AM »


shinji droprate OP rito pls nerf
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #920 on: March 06, 2017, 10:18:13 AM »
ok i played pad for 10 minutes time to take a break again


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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #921 on: March 06, 2017, 02:20:52 PM »
Had like 2 or 3 of those old ones but yeah pretty good haul.

I can't even start using myrei yet because I'm despairing over how awful trying to figure out subs for her is. If I had some kind of decent water/dark haster I'd use that, but I don't so awoken yomi will have to fill the dark/green slot for now. I say water since it's the only color I have that has some decent collection of heart makers that don't take out like 2 colors. Team for now will have to look something like reimry ayomi mel mel navi friend. Honestly it'd probably be more worth it to pair up with a summyr by this point.

I had a similar problem trying to put together a hypothetical Kaworu team for in the event that I pulled him. Best I can come up with is Neptune Dragon (obviously quite a huge investment and a lot of wasted awakenings, although maybe worth considering if his upcoming ultimate appeals to you anyway) or Kuramitsuha with an inherit (requires tons of skillups, although at least we have Tans now to streamline that).
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #922 on: March 06, 2017, 06:16:28 PM »
I'm really upset because Shinji's active is pretty good but I can't justify using him as a sub for anything but a jank TPA sub, ahaha. And with both ASQ and Revo Orochi I don't see myself doing that either. If only it could have been scheat shinji instead :qq:

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #923 on: March 06, 2017, 10:39:22 PM »
So the best method I've been able to figure out so far to ensure as close as possible to a perfect Myrei board is Gainaut->Cosmo Crusader (or Chester). I guess that seems worth a couple of team slots. Maybe.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #924 on: March 07, 2017, 12:03:45 AM »
Aten is three turns faster than Gainaut, but like

Who has Aten? :C

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #925 on: March 07, 2017, 12:39:09 AM »
You mean that useless god that hates quite literally everyone who I picked up a few months ago?

Figures, another thing others could want which I have less than zero use for.
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #926 on: March 07, 2017, 12:51:17 AM »
Aten is three turns faster than Gainaut, but like

Who has Aten? :C

I have one but i'll need a lot of convincing to bother investing in it.

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #927 on: March 07, 2017, 01:16:49 AM »
It's actually pretty funny considering that the other jammer person in existence and I both agree Gainaut is almost universally better than Aten, only being worse in the cooldown rate for the same active.

If I ended up having an Aten I'd -probably- use it in various dungeons but I'd never awaken it. Similarly, when new Fenrir comes out I'll probably never fully awaken the main dog since God Killer is only helpful against very specific dungeons, and I have alternate dogs I could use when I'm not afraid of damage absorbs, hah.

Aten just looks so happy, though...

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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #928 on: March 07, 2017, 01:46:16 AM »
It's actually pretty funny considering that the other jammer person in existence and I both agree Gainaut is almost universally better than Aten, only being worse in the cooldown rate for the same active.

aten's only benefit over gainut is his ability to be inherited in NA

but i mean gainut becomes inheritable too after his buff, I just realized

so RIP I guess
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Re: Heart Shield and Dragons Thread 32 - Some Festive Edition
« Reply #929 on: March 07, 2017, 02:25:37 AM »
So I'm basically trying to whittle down my Myrei team from these choices:

-Black Kali
-AYomi
-Revo Orochi
-Gainaut+Cosmo Crusader
-Wee Jas
-Ganesha
-Pollux (probably a weird choice, but seems interesting to clear the board of hearts before a Myrei active if I already have a lot of them, which should hopefully lead to a really good board. Probably just end up with too much white and hearts breaking too many of my other color matches though, I don't know)
-RevoRa
-Sakuya

I need all of my colors met, five lock resists, and preferably an assload of time extends. The pieces don't seem to be fitting together very cleanly though. I also haven't really considered whether I should be using a Navi friend lead, which would change the math considerably.
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